[Deaner]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

So, I'm just wondering...

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but this section is all about getting people to not be gay, and you're planning on doing this by getting them to love another man?

Did I get that right?

What in God's name are you talking about freak?

[TheGoofTurd]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

So, I'm just wondering...

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but this section is all about getting people to not be gay, and you're planning on doing this by getting them to love another man?

Did I get that right?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

Also, one last post before I dismiss myself.
May I kindly request that I be banned from this website?
I believe I have stated all that I need to state, and little more will ever be necessary.
Besides, I probably should be banned anyway, I generally discuss extremely controversial things and I question most things I hear. I in turn have a very debate centered personality.

That being said, as an apology for my misunderstanding, as well as due to my own person disgust I will kindly request a ban from a moderator on this forum.

Dear Hatemonger;

I'm sorry, but it is our policy NEVER to remove the account of an unsaved fool. Your belligerent hatemongering will remain for future unsaved scum to see and learn from for all eternity (or until Jesus returns to slay most of the earth, whichever comes first).

Jesus called you here for a reason, so you might rethink your selfish tantrum and stick around.

If you'd really like to remove yourself from our Godly forum, all you need to do is to click on that tiny red "x" in the upper righthand corner of your computer screen. Then close your computer, stand up, and walk away.

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

[Didymus Much]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

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None of them, it is my personal belief that god created the bible and let man do as they will as a sort of "test."<br />...

So, #1 then.

...And the reason that our earliest copies match todays is that people in political and religious power (as displayed throughout all of human history) love to torch, or burn all records of, anything that contradicts what they have to say or what they want to happen. <br />...

Ah, but the problem is, we HAVE those records still (Dead Sea scrolls, etc.) which prove that Scripture has NOT been changed.

Your scenario is applicable to the Koran, though. The original compiler destroyed all the source documentation (almost 200 years after Mohammed's time) so no uncomfortable questions can be asked, let alone answered.

...Now, I would go deaper into the toppic, after all I have put years of study into this whole thing, but arguing with biblical literalists gets boring after a while and I don't like being bored. So I will continue this entertainingly heated debate after I am done wallowing in my boredom.

What heated debate? You're getting schooled, while offering no support for your blasphemous personal opinions (which is all they are until you offer evidence of anything you purport to be truth).

[Franklen Mann]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

Also, one last post before I dismiss myself.
May I kindly request that I be banned from this website?
I believe I have stated all that I need to state, and little more will ever be necessary.
Besides, I probably should be banned anyway, I generally discuss extremely controversial things and I question most things I hear. I in turn have a very debate centered personality.

That being said, as an apology for my misunderstanding, as well as due to my own person disgust I will kindly request a ban from a moderator on this forum.

[Franklen Mann]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

OOOOh I just found this out and this is GOLD.
You guys actually thought I was telling the truth when I said I was a homosexual. I was being sarcastic to make a point, I was mocking the fact that you guys think homosexuals are out to ruin society, if they where I'm sure they'd try to hit somewhere that would actually damage society, and not just do things regarding their social lives.

[Franklen Mann]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

My research into the subject tells me that the word used in ancient Hebrew would translate closer to "murder" or "kill unjustly" than "kill" (no, I am unable to read ancient Hebrew myself).



What proof do you have of this?



Or this?



Does that include the fourth commandment? How do you decide whether the Jews, who observe the Sabbath from Friday dusk to Saturday dusk, or Christians, who observe it on Sunday, are right?



As political power has changed hands more than a couple of times since Moses received the tablets on Sinai, wouldn't the Bible have been re-written each time to match? Why do the Scriptures we read still match the earliest copies we have?

If you really are a Christian, you have to believe that God is omniscient (sees everything) and omnipotent (can do anything). If the Bible does not match God's Will exactly, that means that either:

1) God doesn't want His Will to be known to mankind, which means that He does not want us to be saved, and is thus unworthy of worship.
2) God doesn't know that His word has been corrupted, which means He is not omniscient, and thus is unworthy of worship.
3) God is unable to preserve His word, which means He is not omnipotent, and thus is unworthy of worship.
4) God does not exist.

Which of these possibilities do you think is true?

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None of them, it is my personal belief that god created the bible and let man do as they will as a sort of "test."<br />
From my point of view life itself is a test, I simply believe that letting man do this is yet another one of these tests. <br />
And the reason that our earliest copies match todays is that people in political and religious power (as displayed throughout all of human history) love to torch, or burn all records of, anything that contradicts what they have to say or what they want to happen. <br />
Now, I would go deaper into the toppic, after all I have put years of study into this whole thing, but arguing with biblical literalists gets boring after a while and I don't like being bored. So I will continue this entertainingly heated debate after I am done wallowing in my boredom.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

And thus my point has been missed once again...

My research into the subject tells me that the word used in ancient Hebrew would translate closer to "murder" or "kill unjustly" than "kill" (no, I am unable to read ancient Hebrew myself).

...An unfortunate fact remains that the bible started as the will of god,...

What proof do you have of this?

... but was modified heavily after it's creation for political power,...

Or this?

...However, I still go by the ten (or seventeen) commandments because these are generally good rules to go by,...

Does that include the fourth commandment? How do you decide whether the Jews, who observe the Sabbath from Friday dusk to Saturday dusk, or Christians, who observe it on Sunday, are right?

...and don't seem to allude to any edits for the explicit purpose of political power.

As political power has changed hands more than a couple of times since Moses received the tablets on Sinai, wouldn't the Bible have been re-written each time to match? Why do the Scriptures we read still match the earliest copies we have?

If you really are a Christian, you have to believe that God is omniscient (sees everything) and omnipotent (can do anything). If the Bible does not match God's Will exactly, that means that either:

1) God doesn't want His Will to be known to mankind, which means that He does not want us to be saved, and is thus unworthy of worship.
2) God doesn't know that His word has been corrupted, which means He is not omniscient, and thus is unworthy of worship.
3) God is unable to preserve His word, which means He is not omnipotent, and thus is unworthy of worship.
4) God does not exist.

Which of these possibilities do you think is true?

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

It seems I am mistaken.

Yet another Godmocker who has nothing better to do than come to God's friendliest website and spew her hatred.

I thought you atheisticals didn't believe in God: you seem to talking an awful lot about Him.

Is there something you are not telling us?

YIC

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

I'm gay and can confirm all gay people, in every country in the
world, want to ruin society as a whole. You know the
recent hurricanes threatening the US? That was us. We all came
together and ran around in a circle. And the earthquakes?
We collectively agreed to jump up and down at various
points of the landscape.
We won't settle until assless chaps are appropriate attire,
until all media platforms show a constant stream of phallic
symbols, and until Gaga is the national anthem of everything.

I gosh darned knew it.

I knew your queers were up to no good.

[Cursed]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

And thus my point has been missed once again.
An unfortunate fact remains that the bible started as the will of god, but was modified heavily after it's creation for political power,
to the point that the original bible, whatever it may have contained, is lost for the rest of human existence.
However, I still go by the ten (or seventeen) commandments because these are generally good rules to go by, and don't seem to allude to any edits for the explicit purpose of political power.

So are you saying that GOD isn't mighty enough to see to it that His Holy Word is preserved to His liking?

He is all powerful, friend. The Bible is EXACTLY how He wants it.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

And thus my point has been missed once again.
An unfortunate fact remains that the bible started as the will of god, but was modified heavily after it's creation for political power,
to the point that the original bible, whatever it may have contained, is lost for the rest of human existence.
However, I still go by the ten (or seventeen) commandments because these are generally good rules to go by, and don't seem to allude to any edits for the explicit purpose of political power.

Where's your evidence that God is so ineffective He can't manage the content of His written word in the King James Bible (other bibles are false warpings of His word)?

So you just cherry pick the bits that make you feel good. Pro tip: avoid all of Romans 1. Seriously. It deals with perverts like you.

[Franklen Mann]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

Are you trying to imply that God was mistaken every time He directly orders us to kill in His glorious name?

Numbers 15:32-36
15:36 And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. 15:33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation. 15:34 And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him. 15:35 And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. 15:36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.

And thus my point has been missed once again.
An unfortunate fact remains that the bible started as the will of god, but was modified heavily after it's creation for political power,
to the point that the original bible, whatever it may have contained, is lost for the rest of human existence.
However, I still go by the ten (or seventeen) commandments because these are generally good rules to go by, and don't seem to allude to any edits for the explicit purpose of political power.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

And on to the next argument, one of the ten commandments is
THOU SHALL NOT KILL
how thick in the skull do you have to be to not remember the ten
biggest rules that god told us to follow? (or seventeen if you count all of
Exodus 20:1 - 20:17)

Are you trying to imply that God was mistaken every time He directly orders us to kill in His glorious name?

Numbers 15:32-36
15:36 And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. 15:33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation. 15:34 And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him. 15:35 And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. 15:36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.

[Franklen Mann]

Re: Welcome to Straight 4 Jesus!

So what DO you mean? Let me guess, you want to convince us that God doesn't really want queers to be killed on the spot with no penalty for the killer.

And on to the next argument, one of the ten commandments is
THOU SHALL NOT KILL
how thick in the skull do you have to be to not remember the ten
biggest rules that god told us to follow? (or seventeen if you count all of
Exodus 20:1 - 20:17)