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  • Jesus is Lord
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    Re: homosexuality, it IS okay!

    Originally posted by GR4YH4MM3R View Post
    Homosexuality is OK! Why won't anyone get it through their thick skulls. It's a perfectly fine lifestyle. It's not a choice either. You guys who say that people who are gay aren't normal, why can you never consider someone else's views and maybe think: "Hmm...maybe they have a point?" Have you been brainwashed or something? Oh! That's it! Christianity is a scam to brainwash people to a certain point of view! Why didn't anyone think of that before! Oh wait! They did! Dammit, who worships a God who discriminates? I thought we were a civilized society. Apparently not....
    How is being a homer OK when God clearly states in the Holy KJV 1611 Bible that it isn't?

    The large number of verses condemning homerism have already been posted here but here they are again:

    Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. (And we all know what God did to Sodom)

    Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

    Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    Deuteronomy 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

    1 Kings 14:24 And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.

    1 Kings 15:11-12 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.

    1 Kings 22:45-46 Now the rest of the acts of Jehoshaphat, and his might that he shewed, and how he warred, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah? 22:46 And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.

    2 Kings 23:7 And he[Josiah] brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.

    Isaiah 3:9 The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.

    Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
    (some believe this says the Antichrist will be gay)

    Romans 1:27-31 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

    1 Corintians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

    1 Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

    Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

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  • Billy Bob Jenkins
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    Re: homosexuality, it IS okay!

    Originally posted by GR4YH4MM3R View Post
    Homosexuality is OK! Why won't anyone get it through their thick skulls. It's a perfectly fine lifestyle. It's not a choice either. You guys who say that people who are gay aren't normal, why can you never consider someone else's views and maybe think: "Hmm...maybe they have a point?" Have you been brainwashed or something? Oh! That's it! Christianity is a scam to brainwash people to a certain point of view! Why didn't anyone think of that before! Oh wait! They did! Dammit, who worships a God who discriminates? I thought we were a civilized society. Apparently not....
    If homosexuality is not a choice, then why does God damn homosexuals to Hell? Did you ever bother to think of that? Apparently not!

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  • Nathan B. Forrest
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    Re: homosexuality, it IS okay!

    Originally posted by GR4YH4MM3R View Post
    Homosexuality is OK! Why won't anyone get it through their thick skulls. It's a perfectly fine lifestyle. It's not a choice either. You guys who say that people who are gay aren't normal, why can you never consider someone else's views and maybe think: "Hmm...maybe they have a point?" Have you been brainwashed or something? Oh! That's it! Christianity is a scam to brainwash people to a certain point of view! Why didn't anyone think of that before! Oh wait! They did! Dammit, who worships a God who discriminates? I thought we were a civilized society. Apparently not....
    Do you perhaps have any scripture to back up your position, or is it the usual drivel we hear from 'you people'. Yes, I said it!!! YOU people!!!

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  • GR4YH4MM3R
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    Re: homosexuality, it IS okay!

    Homosexuality is OK! Why won't anyone get it through their thick skulls. It's a perfectly fine lifestyle. It's not a choice either. You guys who say that people who are gay aren't normal, why can you never consider someone else's views and maybe think: "Hmm...maybe they have a point?" Have you been brainwashed or something? Oh! That's it! Christianity is a scam to brainwash people to a certain point of view! Why didn't anyone think of that before! Oh wait! They did! Dammit, who worships a God who discriminates? I thought we were a civilized society. Apparently not....

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  • SecretFalcon
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    Re: homosexuality, it IS okay!

    Reading the title of this thread made me laugh inside... Then reading what you wrote in the thread made me laugh out loud!
    You claim you go to church and pray... YET you must not go to church enough to not know where in the bible it says god hates homosexuality. And what church do you go to to allow gayness... They must preach all sorts of screwed up things.

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  • Viggo B. Kristoffersen
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    Re: homosexuality, it IS okay!

    Originally posted by Joshua Godwins View Post
    Thank you for your post Brother!

    God definitely prefers what is on His right or in His right hand and disapproves of what is in or to His left. Matthew was originally written in Hebrew. In Hebrew the term we would translate to "left" also symbolized power and was used as a metaphor for power over something, misfortune, evil, and punishment. So indeed God did separate the righteous ones to His Right and the evil ones to His Left.

    I can only find two instances it the Bible where God specifically referred to the condition of left handedness. The one I cited, where God sent a left handed man to deliver Israel from Moab, and the other also in Judges.

    Judges 20 is a rather involved story involving internal warfare between the Benjamanites and the rest of Israel. Seven hundred of the Benjamanite warriors were described in this way:

    Judges 20:15 - 16 15And the children of Benjamin were numbered at that time out of the cities twenty and six thousand men that drew sword, beside the inhabitants of Gibeah, which were numbered seven hundred chosen men.
    16Among all this people there were seven hundred chosen men lefthanded; every one could sling stones at an hair breadth, and not miss.

    The Israelites eventually routed the Benjaminites, but God goes on to describe the fallen children of Benjamin in this manner:

    Judges 20: 46
    46So that all which fell that day of Benjamin were twenty and five thousand men that drew the sword; all these were men of valour.

    If there are other places in the KJV that specifically refer to the condition of being left handed, I would appreciate being guided to them.

    Thank you again for the post Brother!
    Hello my dear Christian Brother

    You're right, it's not easy to find bible quotes about lefthanded people. But here's a few were the left hand is mensioned.

    Matthew 6:3
    But when you do alms, let not your left hand know what your right hand does:

    Judges 3:15
    But when the children of Israel cried unto the LORD, the LORD raised them up a deliverer, Ehud the son of Gera, a Benjamite, a man lefthanded: and by him the children of Israel sent a present unto Eglon the king of Moab.

    Judges 3:21
    And Ehud put forth his left hand, and took the dagger from his right thigh, and thrust it into his belly:

    The following quote, doesen't mension the left hand, but it clearly states that the LORD favours the right hand:

    Psalm 118:15-16
    15Shouts of joy and victory resound in the tents of the righteous:
    “The Lord’s right hand has done mighty things! 16 The Lord’s right hand is lifted high; the Lord’s right hand has done mighty things!”

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  • Joshua Godwins
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    Re: homosexuality, it IS okay!

    Originally posted by TheSalvationBeliever View Post
    I hate to correct you. BUT GOD defiantly prefer right-handed from left-handed. I think this verse states that very clearly.

    Matthew 25:33-34...41 (King James Version)


    33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

    34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

    .....

    41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
    Thank you for your post Brother!

    God definitely prefers what is on His right or in His right hand and disapproves of what is in or to His left. Matthew was originally written in Hebrew. In Hebrew the term we would translate to "left" also symbolized power and was used as a metaphor for power over something, misfortune, evil, and punishment. So indeed God did separate the righteous ones to His Right and the evil ones to His Left.

    I can only find two instances it the Bible where God specifically referred to the condition of left handedness. The one I cited, where God sent a left handed man to deliver Israel from Moab, and the other also in Judges.

    Judges 20 is a rather involved story involving internal warfare between the Benjamanites and the rest of Israel. Seven hundred of the Benjamanite warriors were described in this way:

    Judges 20:15 - 16 15And the children of Benjamin were numbered at that time out of the cities twenty and six thousand men that drew sword, beside the inhabitants of Gibeah, which were numbered seven hundred chosen men.
    16Among all this people there were seven hundred chosen men lefthanded; every one could sling stones at an hair breadth, and not miss.

    The Israelites eventually routed the Benjaminites, but God goes on to describe the fallen children of Benjamin in this manner:

    Judges 20: 46
    46So that all which fell that day of Benjamin were twenty and five thousand men that drew the sword; all these were men of valour.


    If there are other places in the KJV that specifically refer to the condition of being left handed, I would appreciate being guided to them.

    Thank you again for the post Brother!

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  • Viggo B. Kristoffersen
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    Re: homosexuality, it IS okay!

    Originally posted by Joshua Godwins View Post
    Why do you hate left handed people? God doesn't.

    Judges 3: 12-30 is the story of Ehud, who God sent to Israel to deliver them from the Moabites. Ehud was a left-handed man and described in Judges. Judges 3 verse 15 makes this clear. "15 But when the children of Israel cried out to the LORD, the LORD raised up a deliverer for them: Ehud the son of Gera, the Benjamite, a left-handed man. By him the children of Israel sent tribute to Eglon king of Moab."

    Others here has posted many verses where God condemns sodomy. There is no comparing of left handedness with sodomy.
    I hate to correct you. BUT GOD defiantly prefer right-handed from left-handed. I think this verse states that very clearly.

    Matthew 25:33-34...41 (King James Version)


    33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

    34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

    .....

    41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

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  • CyberYahweh
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    Re: homosexuality, it IS okay!

    Well said @ Joshua Godwins.

    I've heard the sodomites say that there's a neuroscience around homosexuality, in as of itself - laughably. The excuses just keep coming.

    Left hand? Homosexuality?

    I'm right handed, and I have a beard - therefor all right handed people have beards?

    I think someone needs to read their Bible.

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  • Joshua Godwins
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    Re: homosexuality, it IS okay!

    Originally posted by gayandhappy View Post
    .Being gay in many ways is like being left-handed. For the left handed person, there are movements and ways of doing things that come naturally, but if forced to a left handed person can learn to act right handed. And once they've mastered the art of acting right handed, using their left hand becomes a matter of choice. But that doesn't mean that they are right handed.
    Why do you hate left handed people? God doesn't.

    Judges 3: 12-30 is the story of Ehud, who God sent to Israel to deliver them from the Moabites. Ehud was a left-handed man and described in Judges. Judges 3 verse 15 makes this clear. "15 But when the children of Israel cried out to the LORD, the LORD raised up a deliverer for them: Ehud the son of Gera, the Benjamite, a left-handed man. By him the children of Israel sent tribute to Eglon king of Moab."

    Others here has posted many verses where God condemns sodomy. There is no comparing of left handedness with sodomy.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Originally posted by crazyppl View Post
    Homers..
    Without the love of Jesus behind you, you're just another bigot.

    Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

    And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

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  • Mrs. Mary Whitford
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    Originally posted by crazyppl View Post
    Homers..
    Well, yes. But you went through all the trouble of signing up to make this your first post?

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  • crazyppl
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    Re: homosexuality, it IS okay!

    Homers..

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  • Mrs. Mary Whitford
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    Originally posted by Knight of knowing View Post
    It was a joke....

    I am Sorry Lisa H for anything I have done to offend you.

    So will you tell me a bit about yourself now?
    This is NOT a "pick-up" joint! Stick to the topic at hand (the original poster disagrees with God about sodomy) or start a new thread in the Christian Singles forum where you can fail at seducing Lisa away from the Lord.

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  • Knight of knowing
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    Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
    So you are still not apologizing.

    What have two elephants goto do with anything. Do you hate elephants. God made elephants and you want them to die.

    Genesis 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
    It was a joke....

    I am Sorry Lisa H for anything I have done to offend you.

    So will you tell me a bit about yourself now?

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