[Rev. Edward Clement]

Re: Homosexuals in the NFL - A Comprehensive List of Gay Players

And I don't mind you mot agreeing with the gay lifestyle as long as you leave them to it, cus most people are happy as they are and don't want to be preached or told what there doing is wrong cus its not a nice way to approach anyone in my opinion.

Friend, True-Christians™ are commanded by the Lord to show them the error of their ways.

If you are enabling their demonic behavior by not saying anything, you have blood on your hands.

Ezekiel

33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
33:9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

Heretofore, your opinion does not matter in this instance.

[senator79]

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Oh, gee, thanks. Under my name is "Unsaved Trash"? You really are true Christians? WTF. The sad part is that there are actually people who believe your bull. Ignorant stupid fools who keep perpetuating your hate.....sickening

[Rev. Edward Clement]

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Oh, gee, thanks. Under my name is "Unsaved Trash"? You really are true Christians? WTF. The sad part is that there are actually people who believe your bull. Ignorant stupid fools who keep perpetuating your hate.....sickening

Hello friend, how about starting an introduction thread, in the INTRODUCTION section and telling us about yourself?

[senator79]

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How about instead Wash O'Hanley reveals his source in "a high place" on how he knows those players are gay? Come on, Adian Peterson is gay because he wears purple?!?! He plays for the Minnesota Vikings! Their team colors are yellow and PURPLE!!!! So he wears purple off the field? Where? At a press conference to show support for his team? Automatically gay. I wear purple frequently. Apparently that makes me gay. So Carson Palmer is an accurate passer so that means he is gay? Tom Brady is perhaps the most accurate passer in the NFL. Maybe he's gay too. Hey, Wash, why don't you ask his wife, Gisele if he is gay? These are the most unfounded and STUPID arguments I have ever heard. Even a child would say they are dumb. You should be completely ashamed of yourselves. Ray Lewis gay because he has a lot of tackles? That is (was) his position on the team. So that means you are saying every good linebacker in the NFL is gay. I DARE you to say that to Ray Lewis' face. I DARE you to tell Vince Wilfork he is gay. I DARE you to tell DeMarcus Ware he is gay. Go on. Do it.

[Didymus Much]

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...If I don't like someone I just turn the other cheek and walk off...

Do you even understand what "turn the other cheek" means? It doesn't mean walk away.

So if someone hits you, you'll just stand there and invite them to do it again? I seriously doubt it.

[senator79]

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@Cranky....Downs Syndrome is a lifestyle choice? Please tell me you are crazy and that is your legitimate excuse. That is blasphemous. You can not say otherwise. Why would someone choose that? People are born that way. Go back playing with your kids you have locked in a closet and stop using my oxygen. Oh yeah, to whomever put that I am in bed with my fag boyfriend....I am a married woman.

[Didymus Much]

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...Downs Syndrome is a lifestyle choice?...That is blasphemous...

The Bible clearly states that if they loved God, they wouldn't be afflicted.

Romans 8:28 "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."

Why don't you read it before claiming to know what's blasphemous?

[BelieverInGod]

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Do you even realize how ignorant you sound? You freaks are one step above Westboro.

Westboro are cherry picking liebrals

WE ARE NOTHING LIKE WESTBORO!

Prove to me that Westboro has an ex-gay program, and I'll recant my statement.

Wash O'Hanley looks like a creepy pedophile. Perhaps that is why he started this? To redirect the attention away from his gay tendencies. I guess it worked for the Catholic priests so now you guys are using it. May God have mercy on your souls. At the end you are most DEFINITELY going to need it. It's really gonna suck come Judgment Day when you realize we were right and you were wrong.

Ah, so you're a sick catholic who thinks that tagging out by fiddling a priest and telling how bad you feel is going to get you into heaven.

There's a whole section on why your pagan church is Hell bound.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Oh, gee, thanks. Under my name is "Unsaved Trash"? You really are true Christians? WTF.

Welcome to our friendly forums! You can learn why your identification has been revealed as "unsaved scum," as well as many other informative things on THIS thread. If you'd like to share your opinion, kindly provide the Scriptural support for it. Your rights on the forum can be found HERE.

The sad part is that there are actually people who believe your bull. Ignorant stupid fools who keep perpetuating your hate.....sickening

You're confused, dear. What is sad, truly sad, is that there are actually people who think that by being [what they consider to be] "good people," they're contributing to humanity in a positive way. Nothing could be further from the Truth. The Truth is, either one is with God and all that is good, or he is with Satan and all that is evil (Matthew 12:30).

How about instead Wash O'Hanley reveals his source in "a high place" on how he knows those players are gay? Come on, Adian Peterson is gay because he wears purple?!?! He plays for the Minnesota Vikings! Their team colors are yellow and PURPLE!!!! So he wears purple off the field? Where? At a press conference to show support for his team? Automatically gay. I wear purple frequently. Apparently that makes me gay. So Carson Palmer is an accurate passer so that means he is gay? Tom Brady is perhaps the most accurate passer in the NFL. Maybe he's gay too. Hey, Wash, why don't you ask his wife, Gisele if he is gay? These are the most unfounded and STUPID arguments I have ever heard. Even a child would say they are dumb. You should be completely ashamed of yourselves. Ray Lewis gay because he has a lot of tackles? That is (was) his position on the team. So that means you are saying every good linebacker in the NFL is gay. I DARE you to say that to Ray Lewis' face. I DARE you to tell Vince Wilfork he is gay. I DARE you to tell DeMarcus Ware he is gay. Go on. Do it.

Dear, it appears your frustration is getting the better of you. Your arguments are sophomoric at best, childish more accurately. Mr. O'Hanley is a True Christian™ man and close, personal friend of Jesus Christ Himself. Further, he is confirmed Master Debater. He has never been defeated in a debate, so even if you had kept your cool, it wouldn't have helped your cause in any way. Mr. O'Hanley speaks the God's Honest Truth, and never more than when something is so important, like the threat of homosexuality on an otherwise decent society.

@Cranky....Downs Syndrome is a lifestyle choice? Please tell me you are crazy and that is your legitimate excuse. That is blasphemous. You can not say otherwise. Why would someone choose that? People are born that way.

If you would but take the time to read Cranky Old Man's thread, you'll see just how Down Syndrom is a lifestyle choice. His Biblical proof is solid, no qualified theologian could disagree with his argument.

[Pim Pendergast]

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You make some good points, and I understand, or am at least gaining more understanding on what makes you tick, I just choose to have my beliefs as well as you have yours.

You choose to have your beliefs? It would be wiser to believe what's true. I believe the Bible because it's true (Ps 33:4). Unfortunately, you can't choose what's true, so I don't see how you can choose what to believe.

And I don't mind you mot agreeing with the gay lifestyle as long as you leave them to it, cus most people are happy as they are and don't want to be preached or told what there doing is wrong cus its not a nice way to approach anyone in my opinion.

The Bible doesn't want us to leave them to it. We have a moral obligation to tell them God hates them. The people who really hate fags are the ones who let them continue in sin. These people are hell-bound.

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

1 Jn 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

If it was me I would let them be gay, but if they wanted to change or get support etc, approach the church and get the guidence they wanted should they decide to be religious.

Other religions are extremely harmful. They lead people into all kinds of senseless, irrational behavior, oppression and mindless violence. True Christians™ are the only people who can help people who want to choose to stop being gay.

I just beleive in equal rights I guess and live and let live, because the world is a lot more of a happy place when people get on, and don't fight.

Equal rights aren't taught in the Bible . The world would be happy, peaceful place if everyone was Christian. All problems in society stem from people trying to live without God because we won't let them.

[SouthernChristian]

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Really?

Could you show us the Scripture where you get this from?


Nonsense. It is our role to tell Unsaved Trash what the Bible says, so you can choose to follow God and not go to Hell.

If I see you leaving a bar drunk with your car keys in your hand and tell you that if you go driving, you'll get arrested and go to jail, am I arresting you and sending you to jail? No. I'm warning you of the consequences of your actions.


Can you show me that verse?

Getting back to the original topic: Wouldn't it be easier to list the heterosexual players? I mean, there can't be many in a game where the tradition is for the winning team to gang-rape the quarterback of the losing team in the shower after a game.

Jesus Calls Matthew
(Mark 2:13-17; Luke 5:27-32)
9And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him.
10And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples. 11And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? 12But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. 13But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Jesus Calls Matthew
(Mark 2:13-17; Luke 5:27-32)
9And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him.
10And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples. 11And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? 12But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. 13But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Hi SouthernChristian, welcome to our friendly forums!

I see you offer these verses in response to the question about where Jesus "sat with them and talked with them as equals," but I'm a bit confused. In these passages, Jesus does not talk with them as equals, but He talks with them as a "doctor," that is to say, as one who has the cure. Because the others are, shall we say, "sick," this is not an equal arrangement. We are not privy to what our LORD said on these occasions, but on those occasions where His Words were recorded, we know He was not always, shall we say, "polite."

[midmoChristian]

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I have a Few Problems with this Thread there is too Much Judgement, Not enough forgiveness, and a tad too much Hate.

Luke 6:37 37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven
Matthew 18:21,22 21Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
Mark 11:25-26 25And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. 26But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
Colossians 3:12-13 12Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 13Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
James 4:11,12 11Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. 12There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
Matthew 7:1,2 1Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Also some said we are too love our neighbors yes but foul sinners and enemies No. Actually your wrong Luke 6:27,28 we Read 27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, 28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
We also Read in Matthew 5:44,45
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Lastly some our saying that by Biblical Law Homosexual is Punishable by Death, yes your correct but According to Biblical Law Adultery is punishable by Death but we do all now what Jesus Christ Himself did and said when that Came before him if not Go Read John Chapter 8

[BelieverInGod]

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Lord Jesus save me from the illiterate idiots who don't understand how to use spacing.

I have a Few Problems with this Thread there is too Much Judgement, Not enough forgiveness, and a tad too much Hate.

In your opinion, well yeah, we get that a lot around here. Everyone has their own opinion about what God says, none of them have actually read the Bible to find out.

I'll break them down one by one.

Luke 6:37 37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven

AKA The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible

Matthew 18:21,22 21Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

And just above that, what does it say...

Matthew 18
15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Mark 11:25-26 25And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. 26But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.

Umm..... not quite sure what that has to do with homersexuals. I don't have to forgive them for anything because I avoid them like the plague that they are. Also that passage has to do with prayer.

Meanwhile What does the Bible say about teaching the word?

2nd Timothy 4: 1-5 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

Colossians 3:12-13 12Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 13Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

Read all of Colossians 3 once again it was talking about people within the church, not God mocking sinners.

James 4:11,12 11Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. 12There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

and who are our brothers and our sisters?

Matthew 12:47-50 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Matthew 7:1,2 1Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.Also some said we are too love our neighbors yes but foul sinners and enemies No. Actually your wrong

You already used this one, see the answer above.

Luke 6:27,28 we Read 27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, 28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

Oh, I see, this is a bunch of copy pasting that you've done, that's why it's so messed up.

We do pray for them, we pray that they'll turn from their hell bound sinful lifestyles and get right with God. If we didn't why would we even bother? We'd just lock this forum down for our own personal use and not let any of the world in.

We also Read in Matthew 5:44,45
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Already did that.

Lastly some our saying that by Biblical Law Homosexual is Punishable by Death, yes your correct but According to Biblical Law Adultery is punishable by Death but we do all now what Jesus Christ Himself did and said when that Came before him if not Go Read John Chapter 8

He also told her to SIN NO MORE! Quoted above.

Oh, and nobody on this forum has the capability of blotting out sins. We're just mere True Christians™ who preach the word of the Lord (again, see above).

[Levi Jones]

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I have a Few Problems with this Thread there is too Much Judgement, Not enough forgiveness, and a tad too much Hate.

Well, thank goodness you're here to tell us that we're being too judgmental.

I mean, judgment is only wrong when we do it, right? It's perfectly okay for you to come here and pass judgment on us.

Luke 6:37 37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven

Matthew 7:1,2 1Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Sigh... Again..

The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5)

It is about hypocritical judgment.

I would also like to point out that Jesus goes on to say in Matthew 7 (right after that one verse you hippie pseudo-Christians love to quote) that we should not cast our pearls before swine.
Do you know what the pearls are? Do you know to whom Jesus is referring to as "swine"?

How can we not judge when we are commanded to avoid unsaved swine?

Matthew 18:21,22 21Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

Please read for yourself.

Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

Since you probably think you know everything, you probably won't click the link. So I'll sum it up for you. Jesus does not mean everyone is our brother or sister. If you had ever actually sat down and read Matthew for yourself, you would know that.

May I encourage you to do some independent non-spoonfed Bible study some time? You'll find out all sorts of things you were taught about Christianity by your false Christian pastor are completely wrong.

Mark 11:25-26 25And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. 26But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.

We also Read in Matthew 5:44,45
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

I forgive you for persecuting us and not bothering to read the Teaching His Word forum stickies, friend.

Colossians 3:12-13 12Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 13Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

Again, I forgive you for your lack of knowledge about the Bible. I don't expect you to know it as well as we do.

James 4:11,12 11Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. 12There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

Again, this is referring to brothers and sisters within the church.

If you would read this thread, which I will post for you again, you would know who our brothers and sisters are.

Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

Luke 6:27,28 we Read 27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, 28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

We do love our enemies enough to try to save their souls from eternal damnation. What do you do? Do you coddle sinners and tell them that everything is going to be okay? Why do you hate them so much?

Lastly

Oh, thank God! I thought you were never going to finish being so wrong.

some our saying that by Biblical Law Homosexual is Punishable by Death, yes your correct

No but. Paul says the same exact same thing in the New Testament. Not only those who practice homosexuality are worthy of death, but those who support them as well.

Looking at you, false Christian.

Romans 1:26-27, 32
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

According to Biblical Law Adultery is punishable by Death but we do all now what Jesus Christ Himself did and said when that Came before him if not Go Read John Chapter 8

Yes, Jesus pardoned the Adulteress. And then He told her to, "Go and sin no more!"

He didn't say, "Go and open your legs for anyone with a couple of coins."

Finally, I would like you to do some more research on that part of John 8, aka the Pericope Adulterae.
Let me know if Jesus actually said that or not.