[counter345]

Re: Top Ten Reasons Why GAY MARRIAGE is WRONG!

We do not interpret the Bible; we simply read it.

And therefore believe every single word? Even where it was said that the Earth is flat?

Which part of "abomination" needs interpretation?

Which part of "lie" needs interpretation? All of it. It could mean sharing false ideals between men and woman alike.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.[/B]

Which part of "vile" needs interpretation? Which part of "unseemly" needs interpretation?

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

If homosexuality is not 'natural' then why do animals commonly show homosexual acts?

Yes, and as we all know, Wikipedia is never wrong.

Yes, and as we all know, The Old Testament is never wrong.

So there are liberals false Christians who "interpret" their way out of any Bible teaching that they don't like? That's hardly news.

That's the whole POINT of religion; to find your own morals and find your own happiness by basing it off of a religion, but not literally.

[counter345]

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Not at all. The gay agenda insists that if they are born that way, it is because of faulty genetics. Not normal genes.

And because something is different, it is 'faulty'? 'Faulty' implies there's something wrong, where I disagree.

We know that packing mud is not normal behavior.

1. Please define 'packing mud', and may I also remind you that the rules specifically state:

you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented,

it would be active from birth

How did you come up with this logic? For example, Testosterone is only generally present once a child has entered puberty. Just because the child does not show signs of puberty at infantry does not mean he/she will not enter puberty.

Stop making this more complicated than it need be. It's a choice.

Again, please stop stating your opinion as fact. You can inform me of your opinion all you wish.

They are the words from the fag agenda itself.

Actually, the term 'queer' actually means:

Strange; odd

Whilst being gay may be an example of 'queer' behaviour it is certainly not the direct definition.

What exactly are you implying?

I apologize if my opinion is making you angry. I specifically stated in my original post that you didn't have to reply.

Good grief, your sexualization of children is HORRIFIC!!!

I specifically asked for mature responses.

[Didymus Much]

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I'll allow the True Christians™ to deal with your Biblical ignorance, but this:

...Hitler also invented the Volkswagen Beetle's ingenious design...

No, he didn't. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Beetle where you will learn that Dr. Ferdinand Porsche was the designer of the Beetle. Hitler's involvement was limited to providing government funds for the car's development.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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No, that's not fact at all. This is your INTERPRETATION to quotes from the bible.

Dear friend:

We do not interpret the Bible; we simply read it.

Lev. 18:22: Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.

Which part of "abomination" needs interpretation?

Romans 1:26-27: For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Which part of "vile" needs interpretation? Which part of "unseemly" needs interpretation?

From our old friend, Wikipedia. Notice how I've put in bold the 'interpreted' part.

Yes, and as we all know, Wikipedia is never wrong. Besides, maybe different people "interpret" Wikipedia in different ways.

Some people can interpret the messages entirely different to what YOU interpret.

So there are liberals false Christians who "interpret" their way out of any Bible teaching that they don't like? That's hardly news.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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Strawman question. How many newborn infants have I seen exhibit heterosexual behaviour? None.



I know you don't like ideals of homosexuality, but could we keep it mature instead of using derogatory terms? Thank you.



Or you were oppressed back into 'straightness' via religion.

My logic over choice vs genetics: If it's a choice, then there would be no gay people. There is so much homophobic bullying revolving around that if it was a choice, everyone would be 'normal', as per se. But this is not the case. I know a friend who was kicked out of his home for being a homosexual. Now he didn't turn around and go 'i'm gonna turn straight' because obviously he couldn't.

Good grief, your sexualization of children is HORRIFIC!!! Are you registered with the local/state authorities as an offender?

YOU SHOULD BE!!!



Your rhetorical probing questions have been forwarded to the DoF for review.

I HOPE YOU HANG FOR YOUR ALLEGED CRIMES.



Yours in Christ,

Zech

[Brother Harold Porter]

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Strawman question. How many newborn infants have I seen exhibit heterosexual behaviour? None.

Not at all. The gay agenda insists that if they are born that way, it is because of faulty genetics. Not normal genes. We know that packing mud is not normal behavior. Therefore if there is a homo gene, it would be active from birth, whether or not the child is actually sexually mature. The genetic urge to impale other anonymous infants would be active.

Stop making this more complicated than it need be. It's a choice.

I know you don't like ideals of homosexuality, but could we keep it mature instead of using derogatory terms? Thank you.

They are the words from the fag agenda itself. "Queer Nation". "We're Queer and we're here!" Let me guess, only homosexuals are allowed to call each other queer?

Or you were oppressed back into 'straightness' via religion.

What exactly are you implying?

[counter345]

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On topic, it would be interesting to see your views on the question I asked you.

[counter345]

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How many newborn infants have you seen that exhibit homosexual behavior?

Strawman question. How many newborn infants have I seen exhibit heterosexual behaviour? None.

queer freak.

I know you don't like ideals of homosexuality, but could we keep it mature instead of using derogatory terms? Thank you.

I just as easily made the switch back to straightness

Or you were oppressed back into 'straightness' via religion.

My logic over choice vs genetics: If it's a choice, then there would be no gay people. There is so much homophobic bullying revolving around that if it was a choice, everyone would be 'normal', as per se. But this is not the case. I know a friend who was kicked out of his home for being a homosexual. Now he didn't turn around and go 'i'm gonna turn straight' because obviously he couldn't.

[Brother Harold Porter]

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Because;

a. it's interesting
b. there is no proof that it is a choice OR it is something genetic (though there is evidence towards genetic, there is no proof yet. Me saying it as fact would be as ignorant as me saying it's a choice.)

Of course it's a choice, my friend. How many newborn infants have you seen that exhibit homosexual behavior? I've yet to see a baby boy try to sodomize another, or a baby girl want to munch rugs. If they were "born that way", they would act that way.

It's only later in life when one makes the decision to either be a normal person or a queer freak. I didn't choose fagging until I was nearly twenty. And you know what? After years of misery as a homo, I just as easily made the switch back to straightness, praise Jesus!

In Christ

[counter345]

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That's a silly question. You might as well ask, "If you were born an insect, what kind of insect would you be?"

It's impossible either way, so why waste time imagining it?

Because;

a. it's interesting
b. there is no proof that it is a choice OR it is something genetic (though there is evidence towards genetic, there is no proof yet. Me saying it as fact would be as ignorant as me saying it's a choice.)

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Here's some food for thought: If being gay wasn't a choice (there's theories either way), what would you do if you were born gay?

That's a silly question. You might as well ask, "If you were born an insect, what kind of insect would you be?"

It's impossible either way, so why waste time imagining it?

[counter345]

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Hello, everyone. I appeal the homosexuality marriage (don't ban me just yet)! but I would like to reply as genuinely and as positively as possible, with facts with citations (sources). PLEASE REFRAIN FROM REPLYING TO MY POST UNLESS IT'S MATURE AND SENSIBLE. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REPLY. THANK YOU.

It's a grievous sin in God's eyes.

No, that's not fact at all. This is your INTERPRETATION to quotes from the bible.

The Bible references homosexuality several times, but the extent to which it discusses homosexuality and whether it condemns it have been variously interpreted.

From our old friend, Wikipedia. Notice how I've put in bold the 'interpreted' part. Some people can interpret the messages entirely different to what YOU interpret. Assuming yours is factually correct is not only ignorant but is also bigoted. I ask you kindly to be more open-minded and to not advertise 'interpretations as "facts".

A normal child should be harrassing and teasing gay kids and calling them "faggots"

So you believe in bullying, and harassment? No offence, that's quite violent and I'd go far as to say sinful. It also follows the same logic as bullying someone because of their eye colour; a bit like how Adolf Hitler was incredibly fascist.

Bestiality is widely-frowned on by society.

Comparing Bestiality to Homosexuality is a bit like comparing apples and cheese, or, more relevantly, a friendship with intercourse.

We must shame them into submission.

Sounds quite a bit like propaganda. 'We MUST do this!' 'You MUST do that!'

We already know for a fact that God expresses His anger towards people by giving them natural disasters.

I see someone didn't take Geography at school, because actually, natural disasters are caused by a multitude of other things, such as ruptures in the ground caused by moving tectonic plates, which therefore create earthquakes and if it's under the sea, tsunamis. Volcanoes are caused by moving tectonics as well; lava plumes up where there is little to no rock available, rock sets, and voila, you get volcanoes.

We know gays are child molestors.

And you also know that people with green eyes are paedophiles, and ooh ohh I've got another ludicrous claim, people with religious beliefs are child molestors! Right? Right? No, I'm not right, and neither are you. If you ARE right, you would've put some statistics in there and then linked it to actual sources.

Kindergartners will be shown gay porn.

Apples and cheese, again. Being in a gay marriage does NOT imply watching any kind of pornography, LET ALONE showing little children.

It WILL destroy straight marriage!

This is a quote I don't disagree with; it will go against quite a few Christian marriage 'sacriledges' as stated in the Bible. Understandable.

This is just common-sense and statistics.

Well, it isn't common sense, considering you're in the minority with these beliefs. If you have statistics, again, please feel free to show me.

It completely destroys the American language.

Or it could be evolving the language with more words, because that's what language does; it evolves and it has done for quite a long time now. Just because a new term is invented for two gay couples doesn't mean every single word is destroyed.

Hitler completely supported gay marriage.

Hitler also invented the Volkswagen Beetle's ingenious design. He was also an avid artist. Does that make all artists sinners?

Here's some food for thought: If being gay wasn't a choice (there's theories either way), what would you do if you were born gay?

If you can't take my opinion(s) without replying sensibly, I'd advise you don't reply. Thanks! And have a great life!

[sumdumgai808]

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I implore you, please don't twist my words, I deal with you snake tongues enough as it is. I said what I meant, the statistics are slightly higher for homosexuals, and I mean minutely increased, but that's because they are smaller in numbers, not because some demon in them makes them do it, or whatever the hell you guys believe,
It's a common incident known as "Skewered Statistics", where smaller numbers result in larger percentages. Most don't molest children, and are generally good parents with no ill intent.
You have to realize that these people are still human beings, their only difference being the sex they choose to partake in intercourse with,
Any other things they do is completely unrelated to their orientation.

I agree completely and I was able to read your posts as I'm sure you intended.

[MitzaLizalor]

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indeterminant point and time.

time and space are manifestations of the same thing

homosexuality is a manifestation of demonic activity

[Franklen Mann]

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You are correct in that it is a choice, and an irresponsible and degenerate one when one opts for packing mud with strangers, rather than making children for God as we are commanded to do in His Word. So why not just choose to be a normal person instead of a rump-ranger?

I was queer myself for nearly twenty years when I decided fagging was what I wanted, no matter how much my filthy lifestyle made Jesus weep. Everything the gay does is driven by his insatiable desire for as many rectums as possible, consenting or otherwise. If a homo is not nailing at least 5-6 anonymous backsides a day, he is miserable. Trust me, I know. But I left gayness with the help of my Lord and have never been a happier man.

Please, think about the innocent children, not your own desire for wicked and reprobate behavior.

In Christ

I am glad at least a partial understanding has been reached, maybe I am just too negative about you lot.
But I must still make one minor correction, that being part of what makes ME me, who you have sex with is a choice, who you WANT to have sex with is a bit of a half and half thing, homosexual means you only feel that want twords men, you can still be homosexual and have children with a woman,
you just won't want to, or at least not from a sexual point of view.
I was going to rant further on the subject, but I must consume food, I will return at an indeterminant point and time.