[Wide-Open]

Re: Welcome, from an atheis agnostic, formerly saved man

I wrote a 2000 page book in Elizibethan English (made in the 16-1700's) and told everyone it was law, would you believe it?

No. We believe in God's word, not in some uppity internet punk.

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

I'll give you 10 hours to rebut or refute every point I've made

So far I fail to see any point you make. You are stealing some poorly thought out material from the innerwebs. It never fails to amaze me how lazy you atheists are.

I'll feel lenient enough to refute your so called evidence.

You are a pretty snotty person aren't you?

Also, let's look at something your head pastor has told us. He said that where science (rationality) has contradicted the bible (a fairy tale), you will believe the fairy tale. Congrats, get out of your PJ's and go to bed.

Is that a point, or just another insult because you can't grasp what the good Pastor was telling you?

Let's see 144,000 "true" Christians in this world. Hmmm, 6.7B people in this world, looks like you're outnumbered.

With Jesus on our side, we can never be outnumbered. Jesus simply always wins. GLORY!

Yes, the masses have been wrong before, however, this seems to big of number.

Jesus, on the other hand, has never been wrong before.

Hmmm... what else... the universe is ~15B years old, how do you explain this?

I can't explain it, as it is wrong. I don't want to explain something that is wrong. The universe is 6000 years old.

The human race is .25M years old, religion, 2000 years old.

The human race was created (twice - I thought you had read the Bible) in Genesis. Genesis 1:26 and 2:7 to be exact.

Also, what color do you believe Jesus to be?

We KNOW he was pure white, with blonde hair.

Good night, and good luck.

Well, I'll give you one of my favorite verses to help you get to sleep:

Matthew 18:3
And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Don't let the bed bugs bite you.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Welcome, from an atheis agnostic, formerly saved man

WOW! Noone has responded to my first post thoroughly

That's because you said you were going to post some words of wisdom, and we were all waiting for that, since there was no wisdom in any of the crap that you've plagerized so far.

I am being very lenient with you.

You can't help it, you're just a pussy. That's just the way God made you.

If; I wrote a 2000 page book in Elizibethan English (made in the 16-1700's) and told everyone it was law, would you believe it?

Forget a 2,000 page book; I'd be impressed if you could string together two or three original paragraphs that made a coherent argument.

So why do you believe in a book, written by mortal men, that's written in Elizibethan?

Verily, thou thinkest not that the LORD our God wouldst bid us hearken unto an false Bible, doest thou? Fie!

I'll go to bed now,

Now you lay you down to sleep; I pray the Lord your soul to take.

I'll give you 10 hours to rebut or refute every point I've made, and then, maybe, I'll feel lenient enough to refute your so called evidence.

Make an argument worth rebutting, and perhaps we'll bother answering you. So far, there's no original thought there to refute.

He said that where science (rationality) has contradicted the bible (a fairy tale), you will believe the fairy tale. Congrats, get out of your PJ's and go to bed.

We get into our PJs to go to bed, we don't get out of them. I understand why you're confused on this point, however. You actually do get out of your pajamas to go to bed, since you haven't the got the brains to use the slit in front when you play with your tallywhacker every night.

Let's see 144,000 "true" Christians in this world. Hmmm, 6.7B people in this world, looks like you're outnumbered. Yes, the masses have been wrong before, however, this seems to big of number.

More people in the US reject evolution than believe in it. That's 160 million people who know that Darwin was wrong. Yes, the masses have been wrong before, however, this seems too big of a number.

Hmmm... what else... the universe is ~15B years old, how do you explain this?

Scientists keep changing their estimates of how old the universe is. One lie is just as good as another to them. That's how we explain it.

The human race is .25M years old, religion, 2000 years old.

OK, Einstein, if you say so, it must be true.

Also, what color do you believe Jesus to be?

You seem to live a life on the level of Rain Man. You see all the pieces of the puzzle, but you don't really know how they all fit together, do you?

Good night, and good luck.

And have a pleasant tomorrow.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Welcome, from an atheis agnostic, formerly saved man

Threads like this always bother me. We came here in the early 1600s to escape the same religious persecution that is still so prevalent.

It wasn't easy. Many died, and we had to be strong in our faith. It isn't easy sneaking into an injun village in the middle of the night, setting it on fire, and clubbling the squaws and little children as they run screaming into the night aflame, all the while watching for a buck with long braids.

But after many years, we managed to run the few remaining bison, injuns and Frenchies off the lands they had pre-stolen from us and back up to the into the Northern tundra where they still live in caves and hollowed-out trees. You see, faith CAN move mountains!

GOD was with us then, He was with us when we discovered some mex squatters in California and Texas and ran them out, and he is with us today as we continue the fight for ownership of our birthright: Everything.

Suddenly here's a post from some kind claming to be an 'athies agnostic, formerly saved man'. Now that's just wrong. Athiest and agnostic have completely different meanings, and he isn't member of our church, so he (?) was never Saved®. And then the question begs: If one is Saved®, can one become Unsaved (™1400-2008The Vatican).

[Krustifool]

Re: Welcome, from an atheis agnostic, formerly saved man

Well, little girl, all I can say about this who fiasco you've brought about while hiding from our stones on the other side of those pixels, is that I am very disappointed to hear that you've cut out your genitals in order to gain the capability of honestly stating that you are "not a girl."

God made you the way he wanted you: Christian, and possessing the organs it takes to produce more little Christian soldiers as soon as a good Christian man, who bares the wits it takes to keep you in line, and the stomach to silence you if you're to stray from that line without the possibility of redirection, would plant his seed in that dank hole of yours. Now, dank as it might still be, you've rendered the only useful part of you, useless. It saddens me that I must inform you of your unworthiness to live. Hell is the only place for you, not the bed of any man, or woman, if that's your bag. Enough of that. I'm sure you get the point.

On another note, you say that if X built a rock, and cannot lift it, then X does not exist.

Say we put a different name on X, perhaps human could be it. Okay, X builds a house. With the necessary paperwork filled out, everybody who reads the said paperwork will know who built the house. When the house built by X is seen by some passerby, and they'd like to know who this X might be, they ask around, and get their hands on the paperwork, and find that, oh, X built the house. Do they debate it? NO! Because that would be stupid. The people who supplied the paperwork have no reason to misguide the curious people, who just wanted to know what genius put together this beautiful house. There is no need to bring X on the scene, to lift the house, because he's moved on to other tasks, such as tending to some lawsuit brought on him by somebody else who needs help with their house. The paperwork should be quite sufficient, and your "Wheel of Power" argument is an arrogant, not to mention STOLEN fallacy, which contradicts your whole argument by shifting, again, the burden of proof by telling us we must PROVE that you're not wrong in your Atheism! You've a lot of growing up to do before you can begin to understand, young arrogant nay-sayer and cursed blasphemist, and I know Jesus could help you if you'd only let Him, for nothing God says is a fallacy, be it in text or voice. As for the genitals, however, I'm afraid there's no helping you. No matter, with your stubbornness and your incompetence, I'm sure you would've been damned to hell anyway, where your every piece would, no, WILL be torn to shreds.

I hope you get an enormous amount of enjoyment from this sick thing you've done in this Earthly life, because you'll be paying dearly for it in your time of Judgment.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Welcome, from an atheis agnostic, formerly saved man

Boy, what are you talking about? Are one of those false Christian Pantycostals who talk funny?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Welcome, from an atheis agnostic, formerly saved man

On another note, you say that if X built a rock, and cannot lift it, then X does not exist.

I’m fed up with Unsaved Trash thinking that they have something in the question, “Can God create a rock heavier than He can move?”

The earth is pretty big but He made it. The sun and the moon are about the same size as each other (hence eclipses) but He made them. Stars are tiny bright things set in the firmament, but He made them.

(Now before you start your secular nonsense about the relative size of things, beware! If you say they are bigger than God does, then you’ll have a bigger problem.)

Now, God created everything from nothing; nothing doesn’t weigh anything; weight is only here on earth because we need weight to keep us from floating off to heaven before our time and pestering God.

So when God creates something, although for us it has a weight, for God it does not. He does not need weight because He’s up in heaven where there is no need for weight because there is nowhere further to float off to.

So the question, “Can God create a rock heavier than He can move?” is stupid.

[Wide-Open]

Re: Welcome, from an atheis agnostic, formerly saved man

Amen Brother Bathfire.

As a kid, I used to think/wonder: can He create an object He can't lift (or lob at a sinner)?

Answer: He CAN. He's God! Poof. Too heavy! There you have it.

And then ... He'd leasurely walk to the object and... wait for it... pick it up ANYWAY! (And lob it at a sinner).

Just because He CAN! I even used to think He could create Himself again, Who in His turn could create an object that... you get the point. They'd even play table tennis with the unliftable object.

That was mostly just before mum brought me my medication evening sweets.

Kids eh.

[yourhamster]

Re: Welcome, from an atheis agnostic, formerly saved man

I thought you had read the bible, it tells us Jesus was of the skin of the bronze.

1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks [one] like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 1:14 His head and [his] hairs [were] white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes [were] as a flame of fire; 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance [was] as the sun shineth in his strength.(KJV translation)
That's even the KJV version, holy crap!!!

And, before I leave for a while, I'll leave you with a quote from one of the best thinkers of our time, "If we believe in something for fear of punishment, and hope of reward, we are a sorry bunch indeed." Albert Einstein

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Welcome, from an atheis agnostic, formerly saved man

I thought you had read the bible, it tells us Jesus was of the skin of the bronze.

I have discovered the problem with your posts. Your 'thinking' is garbled at best, and psychotic at worst.