Soul-searching for a point to all his gibberish

[s@ul77]

Here is my answer to the ranging debate over the question "Should we try to stick it out under Obama, or should we become secessionists like Sarah Palin?"

GOD HATES AMERICA BECAUSE AMERICA HATES GOD:

64% of Americans believe in socialized health insurance for all. 73% of Americans think large corporations should pay more TAXES. 67% of Americans favor more diplomacy with our enemies. A Quinnipiac poll in July found that 63% of Americans agree with the Roe v. Wade decision to murder children. A TIME Magazine poll in July found that 58% of Americans hate marriage so much they oppose an amendment to the US Constitution that would ban gay marriage.

In 4 of the last 5 elections, the popular vote has been for a Democrat. Republicans have only won the popular vote ONCE in the past 20 years - and that was only by 1%, versus the MOST LIBERAL SENATOR from MASSACHUSETTES!

Take a look at the last 5 elections:

1992: America votes for Bill Clinton, ignoring that he's a sex-crazed maniac because they're so liberal.

1996: America votes for Bill Clinton AGAIN, ignoring that he's a sex-crazed maniac because they're so liberal.

2000: Popular Vote won by Al Gore, God has to intervene in Florida recount. America voted for a patholicial liar and eco-terrorist, because they're so liberal.

2004: America comes within a few thousand votes (with God's intervention in Ohio) of electing the MOST LIBERAL SENATOR from MASSACHUSETTES, the MOST LIBERAL STATE, because they're so liberal. More people voted for Kerry than Ronald Reagan in 1984!

2008: America votes for THE MOST LIBERAL SENATOR named HUSSIEN, who runs on a platform of socialist healthcare and raising taxes, because they're so liberal. More Americans voted for Hussien Obama than for Ronald Reagan in 1984!

In the past 5 elections Democrats have gotten 19 million more votes than Republicans:

1992 39,104,500 44,909,806
1996 39,198,755 47,402,357
2000 50,456,002 50,999,897
2004 62,040,610 59,028,444
2008 56,888,006 64,629,649

Total 247,687873 266,970,153

Difference: 19,282,280

WHAT TO DO?

I suggest secession, but if you can't wait for that long, you can try for refugee status in some of the few nations in the world that still follow conservative ideals. For those of us on the religious right, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and the mountains of Pakistan follow socially conservative policy, though most of us don't want to convert to Islam. Free-market Republicans can try Somolia, which has little to no government. China would be perfect if it weren't for all the Chinese people. Russia agrees with us on pre-emptive invasions, corporate rights, and pretty much everything, and considering it's white population it's the best choice - if you can ignore that it's Russia.

Interesting point, does God not hate America because those are supposed to follow his teachings do not?

• Does America allow interest to be charged against loans, this is not what "The Bible" says

Does "The Bible" say that you are not allowed to plant different seeds in the same field, yet Americans eat GM food, this is against "God"[/list]

• "God" knows there will be evil in every society, it is up to those that follow the teachings of "The Bible" to stand up against against it, regardless of political party.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Why GOD HATES AMERICA!

Interesting point, does God not hate America because those are supposed to follow his teachings do not?
Does America allow interest to be charged against loans, this is not what "The Bible" says

Actually, we're not supposed to charge OUR OWN interest. It's fine to charge nonbelievers.

Does "The Bible" say that you are not allowed to plant different seeds in the same field, yet Americans eat GM food, this is against "God"

Genetically modified plants are still the same crop, idiot.

How did you get so stupid?

[s@ul77]

Re: Why GOD HATES AMERICA!

Actually, we're not supposed to charge OUR OWN interest. It's fine to charge nonbelievers.


Genetically modified plants are still the same crop, idiot.

How did you get so stupid?

So what is the root of all evil? Are Christians supposed to lead and show the way? As for GM, you are joking. Taking the genes from one plant and putting into another is fine with you, no wonder people are get fat and having many other medial problems, keep on believing that science is better than what God has produced.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why GOD HATES AMERICA!

So what is the root of all evil?

Now there's a stupid question: Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

OK?

[s@ul77]

Re: Why GOD HATES AMERICA!

Timothy 6:10- For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why GOD HATES AMERICA!

Timothy 6:10- For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

You're not much of a Christian are you?
M't:25:27: Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

And not let's forget the parable of the talents...
Nor should we omit:
De:23:19: Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury of any thing that is lent upon usury:
De:23:20: Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

You see, The Good Pastor Zeke is correct again and you, sinner, are wrong!

[redeemed]

Re: Why GOD HATES AMERICA! Because there's no constitution!

You are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.
They have found me guilty before I could even prove or tell my side of the story. How is it that I am found guilty without telling my side of the story in court? Why are they making such harsh decisions to take away the children without me being found guilty?
I am innocent.
It is obvious that that the government doesn’t like the Bible, the messages. They have some liars that they are telling all these lies and immensely exaggerated stories and they believe them rather than people that have been faithful in the gospel field for 44 years. I haven’t had my say whatsoever. They are ruling that we are guilty until we prove we are innocent.

The media is helping the government. They are making everybody believe that I am some kind of ogre.
That is why the government is making all these rash decisions to take away our children when WE ARE NOT GUILTY.
Those people are listening to liars. They are printing all this filth.

That is why the Lord gave me that message about if you don’t hate your mother, father, your son, your daughter, your wife, even your own life you cannot be my disciple.

Right here they are taking our sons, our daughters of course the Lord is letting it happen, but this might be the glory of the Lord here. How He is going to do it I don’t know, but He is going to do it.

These false accusers are upset with me because of their own sins. And then this girl says I did something to her in the shower. She is a bald-faced liar. I have never so much as touched her or shaken hands with her. I barely knew her. I just knew her from reports that came in about her wearing too much makeup and wanting to get married to several people in the church. She left when the last guy she liked left.

Only the news media can talk about the cases. The judges are saying that if our witnesses talk about the cases, they will be put in jail. We can’t even talk about our case. This is like the dark ages of Catholicism. That is why we fled to the United States of America, to get away from the oppression of the dark ages, where you can’t believe in God the way that the Bible says. You have to believe the way that the Catholics say which is total heresy. We are back in the dark ages now. Everybody is going to be subject unto it and is subject unto it. Any liar can make up any kind of a lie and they just come and raid your house, take your children, and lock you up in some kind of a dungeon.

If the jail, or the Marshalls, or the judge or the prosecuting attorney—or all of them together, would let me, I will be glad to talk to them. Here is a statement from me right now. All the things they are printing in newspapers are a bunch of hog wash. They are a bunch of lies. I have put in 44 years into the gospel field and I am not about to throw it all away to jump into the shower with some halfwit.

The Lord is the one that is going to do us any good. We have to get a hold of him. We have to keep carrying the cross. Keep up the praying.
Tony Alamo
for more messages from Pastor Tony Alamo go to:

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[Brother Guy Bayard]

Re: Why GOD HATES AMERICA! Because there's no constitution!

You are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.
They have found me guilty before I could even prove or tell my side of the story. How is it that I am found guilty without telling my side of the story in court? Why are they making such harsh decisions to take away the children without me being found guilty?
I am innocent.
It is obvious that that the government doesn’t like the Bible, the messages. They have some liars that they are telling all these lies and immensely exaggerated stories and they believe them rather than people that have been faithful in the gospel field for 44 years. I haven’t had my say whatsoever. They are ruling that we are guilty until we prove we are innocent.

The media is helping the government. They are making everybody believe that I am some kind of ogre.
That is why the government is making all these rash decisions to take away our children when WE ARE NOT GUILTY.
Those people are listening to liars. They are printing all this filth.

That is why the Lord gave me that message about if you don’t hate your mother, father, your son, your daughter, your wife, even your own life you cannot be my disciple.

Right here they are taking our sons, our daughters of course the Lord is letting it happen, but this might be the glory of the Lord here. How He is going to do it I don’t know, but He is going to do it.

These false accusers are upset with me because of their own sins. And then this girl says I did something to her in the shower. She is a bald-faced liar. I have never so much as touched her or shaken hands with her. I barely knew her. I just knew her from reports that came in about her wearing too much makeup and wanting to get married to several people in the church. She left when the last guy she liked left.

Only the news media can talk about the cases. The judges are saying that if our witnesses talk about the cases, they will be put in jail. We can’t even talk about our case. This is like the dark ages of Catholicism. That is why we fled to the United States of America, to get away from the oppression of the dark ages, where you can’t believe in God the way that the Bible says. You have to believe the way that the Catholics say which is total heresy. We are back in the dark ages now. Everybody is going to be subject unto it and is subject unto it. Any liar can make up any kind of a lie and they just come and raid your house, take your children, and lock you up in some kind of a dungeon.

If the jail, or the Marshalls, or the judge or the prosecuting attorney—or all of them together, would let me, I will be glad to talk to them. Here is a statement from me right now. All the things they are printing in newspapers are a bunch of hog wash. They are a bunch of lies. I have put in 44 years into the gospel field and I am not about to throw it all away to jump into the shower with some halfwit.

The Lord is the one that is going to do us any good. We have to get a hold of him. We have to keep carrying the cross. Keep up the praying.
Tony Alamo
for more messages from Pastor Tony Alamo go to:
http://www.alamoministries.com/conte...ish/index.html

I applaud and congratulate Pastor Tony Alamo for his contributions here. However I disapprove of his far too liberal stance on Christian ethics and pray that the Lord may show him the error of his ways that he might become one with gods favourite church , Landover Baptist. God Bless you Tony, May you see the light as we do..

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: Why GOD HATES AMERICA! Because there's no constitution!

You are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.

Where does it say that in the Bible? Chapter and verse, please.

Once you've backed up your claim, then I'll read the rest of your post.

[s@ul77]

Re: Why GOD HATES AMERICA!

You're not much of a Christian are you?
M't:25:27: Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

And not let's forget the parable of the talents...
Nor should we omit:
De:23:19: Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury of any thing that is lent upon usury:
De:23:20: Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

You see, The Good Pastor Zeke is correct again and you, sinner, are wrong!

Exodus 22:25 – “If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury.”

Psalm 15:5 – “He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved.”

Proverbs 28:8 – “He that by usury and unjust gain increaseth his substance, he shall gather it for him that will pity the poor.”

Ezekiel 18:17- “That hath taken off his hand from the poor, that hath not received usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live.”

Ezekiel 22:12 – “In thee have they taken gifts to shed blood; thou hast taken usury and increase, and thou hast greedily gained of thy neighbours by extortion, and hast forgotten me, saith the Lord GOD.”

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Why GOD HATES AMERICA! Because there's no constitution!

Where does it say that in the Bible? Chapter and verse, please.

Once you've backed up your claim, then I'll read the rest of your post.

Good point, Brother. In fact, under God's holy and perfect Law, you can be guilty until proved innocent, even of a capital offense:

Deut. 22:20-21: But if this thing be true, [and the tokens of] virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Why GOD HATES AMERICA!

Exodus 22:25 – “If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury.”

Psalm 15:5 – “He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved.”

Proverbs 28:8 – “He that by usury and unjust gain increaseth his substance, he shall gather it for him that will pity the poor.”

Ezekiel 18:17- “That hath taken off his hand from the poor, that hath not received usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live.”

Ezekiel 22:12 – “In thee have they taken gifts to shed blood; thou hast taken usury and increase, and thou hast greedily gained of thy neighbours by extortion, and hast forgotten me, saith the Lord GOD.”

Therefore, what? All of Scripture is inerrant, not just the parts that you've cherry-picked, and including the verses that Brother Bathfire has quoted and that you've chosen to ignore.

[s@ul77]

Re: Why GOD HATES AMERICA!

Therefore, what? All of Scripture is inerrant, not just the parts that you've cherry-picked, and including the verses that Brother Bathfire has quoted and that you've chosen to ignore.

Therefore, do not charge interest. Matthew 25-27 is telling you about laziness and you do not get something for nothing, money was used as an example.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Why GOD HATES AMERICA!

Therefore, do not charge interest. Matthew 25-27 is telling you about laziness and you do not get something for nothing, money was used as an example.

My word, but you're confused. Why would Jesus use something forbidden as an example of something that people should do? Also, which part of "Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury" is so mystifying to you?

[s@ul77]

Re: Why GOD HATES AMERICA!

My word, but you're confused. Why would Jesus use something forbidden as an example of something that people should do? Also, which part of "Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury" is so mystifying to you?

Luke 6:34-35 And if you lend to those from whom you hope to receive back, what credit is that to you? For even sinners lend to sinners to receive as much back. But love your enemies, do good, and lend, hoping for nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is kind to the unthankful and evil.

The word interest comes from the Latin verb "intereo" which means lost. The Old Testament defines usury as "oppression of the poor, the damage done by violence, the deceit of man, extortioners and those who accept bribes, liar, unrighteous, and those that commit these shall surely die".

Ezekiel 22:29-31

The people of the land have used oppression, and exercised robbery, and have vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the stranger wrongfully. And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none. Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD.