[Androgynous]

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I think God might disagree with that statement.

Then why did he, or she for that matter , if s/he truly exists, not make us a 'better' country?

[MindlessFool]

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Actually, the Bible tells us that God DOES program us all, before we are born, and decides whether we are going to be good or evil. He makes people good because he loves them, and evil because he hates them and wants to punish them.

Not meaning to contradict you here, but if "God" is programming people to be evil and then proceeding to punish him, could he not skip out on the punishment all together and just make them good. It seems illogical to me as it would be a complete waste of time on "God's" part. Ask yourself, would you make your dog or cat urinate on the carpet so you could kick it whilst remaining free of guilt? It seems a little sadistic to me. Maybe you could explain it in a way that includes some form of logic on "God's" part.

Respectfully, look forward to hearing from you.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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The trouble is that you say that as if no one except you has ever remarked upon this. You cannot seriously believe that in 2010 years that this still puzzles mankind.

The answer lies HERE and the following verses will help.

Ro:9:14: What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
Ro:9:15: For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
Ro:9:16: So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Ro:9:17: For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
Ro:9:18: Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Ro:9:19: Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
Ro:9:20: Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
Ro:9:21: Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Ro:9:22: What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
Ro:9:23: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

Re:2:27: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

It really, really does not matter what you think. You may think it is wrong that a dog should kill a rat, but you accept that it is neither unusual nor illogical. How much more so with God?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Not meaning to contradict you here, but if "God" is programming people to be evil and then proceeding to punish him, could he not skip out on the punishment all together and just make them good. It seems illogical to me as it would be a complete waste of time on "God's" part. Ask yourself, would you make your dog or cat urinate on the carpet so you could kick it whilst remaining free of guilt? It seems a little sadistic to me. Maybe you could explain it in a way that includes some form of logic on "God's" part.

Respectfully, look forward to hearing from you.

You obviously know about as much about the Bible as you do "respect."

God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned.--2 Th.2:11-12

Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will lay stumblingblocks before this people, and the fathers and the sons together shall fall upon them; the neighbour and his friend shall perish. -- Jeremiah 6:21

Your personal opinion about God is of no importance. If you think He's "sadistic," better take it up with Him.

[Nobar King]

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And England is not a lost cause. We are a brilliant country. We don't need faith to be that.

If you guys are so smart, how come you can't get rid of all the islamofascists that are taking over your country? Oh, yeah, they took your guns away. Pretty brilliant.

[TakingYouWithMe]

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if God decides if each person is to be good or evil before they are created, why do annoying people come to my door twice a week to try to "SAVE ME FROM DAMNATION"?

[Talitha]

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if God decides if each person is to be good or evil before they are created, why do annoying people come to my door twice a week to try to "SAVE ME FROM DAMNATION"?

They are not Christians.
They are Jay-Hoover Witlesses.

[eliot mayfield]

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if God decides if each person is to be good or evil before they are created, why do annoying people come to my door twice a week to try to "SAVE ME FROM DAMNATION"?

Good! I imagine satan is even more annoyed every time we save a soul like yours.

[James Dewitt]

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if God decides if each person is to be good or evil before they are created, why do annoying people come to my door twice a week to try to "SAVE ME FROM DAMNATION"?

The good Lord also gave you free will, its up to you. Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and ye shall be saved!! Take the path that Jesus has set forth and you will be saved. Reject Jesus and well you know what is coming your way.

[Noah Dint]

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Lol at bessemer.
I'm 14, british, its 8 in the morning and i havent slept since 10pm last night. a bit later than usual, yeah.

I am curious. What would compel a 14 year old with such poor parental supervision and bad habits such as staying up all night to frequent this board?

Do you come here looking for Salavation(tm) or are you just a bored misguided youth without any form of structure in your life with nothing better to do?

Kindly do not reply by flaming me. As others here know I am very direct and don't beat around the bush to get to a point. I would ask you reply with the same courtesy. I truly am curious as to what motivates you to be here.

-ND