[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hello

"Whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely." Re 22:17

People have free will, therefore the right to live the way they want.

So you believe that God is okay with us living in contradiction to His commandments?

[Matthew the ex-muslim]

Re: Hello

That's not the point. While I don't condone homosexuality in any way, I feel that people who live that lifestyle have the right to live that way. However, fearing homosexuals, and trying to punish them is not right. Homosexuals are sinners, but they are not monsters, and there's no reason to hate or fear them. I am not a homosexual and I am not a pedophile.

Of course you have no problem with homos, because your infallible pope is one

and once again you disagree with God and disobey him, like the polytheist you are:
Leviticus 20:13 (King James Version):


13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

[Brother Alex]

Re: Hello

That's not the point. While I don't condone homosexuality in any way, I feel that people who live that lifestyle have the right to live that way. However, fearing homosexuals, and trying to punish them is not right. Homosexuals are sinners, but they are not monsters, and there's no reason to hate or fear them.

Well, the Bible says otherwise.

Leviticus 20:13:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

1 Timothy 1:9-10:
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

I am not a homosexual and I am not a pedophile.

It is a proven fact that the cathlick church has strong ties with the North American Man-Boy Love Association. Why should I believe you?

[James Dewitt]

Re: Hello

"Whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely." Re 22:17

People have free will, therefore the right to live the way they want.

Do Cathreliks have some special Bible? It sure is not the real one, try and get a KJV1611. Unless you just like to use only certain parts of scripture. We tend to follow all of the scripture. I am still waiting for you to tell me about the May Crowing

Revelation 22:17
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

[Warthogg]

Re: Hello

So you believe that God is okay with us living in contradiction to His commandments?

No, of course if you break His commandments, He will be offended, but God doesn't force people to follow him blindly. He challenges us to seek Him in our lives by presenting us with His righteous and loving path, and the alternatives. It is our choice as to which path we want to choose.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hello

No, of course if you break His commandments, He will be offended, but God doesn't force people to follow him blindly. He challenges us to seek Him in our lives by presenting us with His righteous and loving path, and the alternatives. It is our choice as to which path we want to choose.

Yes....and...?

He condemns queers to hell unless they repent and get Saved, right? That's their choice.

[Matthew the ex-muslim]

Re: Hello

No, of course if you break His commandments, He will be offended, but God doesn't force people to follow him blindly. He challenges us to seek Him in our lives by presenting us with His righteous and loving path, and the alternatives. It is our choice as to which path we want to choose.

False, there's no "free" choice here woman, you either choose God and heaven or death and hell, that's why God created hell.

[Luke 19:27] But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

[Warthogg]

Re: Hello

Ok, let me just digress here a little bit. My point is, love the people, hate the sin.
John 13:35
By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

[James Dewitt]

Re: Hello

Free will?
Joshua 24:15

And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hello

Ok, let me just digress here a little bit. My point is, love the people, hate the sin.
John 13:35
By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

God doesn't love everybody:

Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...

Matthew 13
[38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
[40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
[41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
[42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Hello

Ok, let me just digress here a little bit. My point is, love the people, hate the sin.
John 13:35
By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

Really? God is sure that He does not like sinners so why should I?
Ezekiel 8:18



Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Hello

Ok, let me just digress here a little bit. My point is, love the people, hate the sin.

Already answered.

John 13:35
By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

The key words are "one another."

[tatertot]

Re: Hello

this is making me sick. you people claim to belive in God then hate on someone like this? you're all filthy hypocrtites! i've read a few verses, it does in fact say God loves everone and that we have free will. you people are a bunch of hate-spewing judgemental pricks. and don't act like no Christian has ever been a pedo or done something "wrong" what about Colorado Springs? y'know where the pastor got caught having gay sex? or are we simply going to ignore the faults of Christians?

once again got an infraction. are so ignorant that you refuse to listen to me? that you will not listen to another human being with just as much right to speak as you have? just as you have distorted the bible to meet your own ends? this is blasphamy to your "God" and according to Bible, you will all spend eternity in Hell. all you people do is troll and flame, on any other forum you would be banned.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Hello

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this is making me sick. you people claim to belive in God then hate on someone like this? you're all filthy hypocrtites! i've read a few verses, it does in fact say God loves everone and that we have free will. you people are a bunch of hate-spewing judgemental pricks. and don't act like no Christian has ever been a pedo or done something "wrong" what about Colorado Springs? y'know where the pastor got caught having gay sex? or are we simply going to ignore the faults of Christians?

Look Tatertot, you can bet your bottom dollar that this pastor of yours was not a True Christian. Can you show me in the Bible where it states that God loves everyone?

once again got an infraction. are so ignorant that you refuse to listen to me? that you will not listen to another human being with just as much right to speak as you have? just as you have distorted the bible to meet your own ends? this is blasphamy to your "God" and according to Bible, you will all spend eternity in Hell. all you people do is troll and flame, on any other forum you would be banned.

Why would we listen to a God mocker? Tell me where have we distorted the Bible? We quote scripture. Its the word of God, we obey it.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hello

this is making me sick. you people claim to belive in God then hate on someone like this? you're all filthy hypocrtites! i've read a few verses, it does in fact say God loves everone and that we have free will. you people are a bunch of hate-spewing judgemental pricks. and don't act like no Christian has ever been a pedo or done something "wrong" what about Colorado Springs? y'know where the pastor got caught having gay sex? or are we simply going to ignore the faults of Christians?

once again got an infraction. are so ignorant that you refuse to listen to me? that you will not listen to another human being with just as much right to speak as you have? just as you have distorted the bible to meet your own ends? this is blasphamy to your "God" and according to Bible, you will all spend eternity in Hell. all you people do is troll and flame, on any other forum you would be banned.

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

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