Coyote Wildfires intro.

[CoyoteWildfire]

My friends, I am shamed to see the society around us degrade. It is filled the the destitute and depraved. God is surely displeased with the lies, the deceit, the immorality that has become pervasive in our culture.

So, I will set to light this deceit.

Dear Friends,

The torrent of bad news continues. Children can download Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, a game where innocent, perky little 12-year olds are free to burn, rape, and loot booty.

Call of Duty, the video game series infamous for allowing children to imagine themselves as one of Stalin's footsoldiers, has now taken the next logical step of allowing children to imagine themselves as terrorists.

While Playing Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, a child can shoot a person, stand over the corpse, look down at the dead person's face, and then put down their game controller, whip out their penis, and slap it against their computer monitor, simulating an act of "turkey-slapping" necrophillia.

Also, while Playing Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, children can do stand over the corpse, then bite their lip and suck on their monitor, simulating drinking the blood of the dead. They can even fart on the dead person's face (digestive system permitting) or simulate desecrating the corpse by urinating on their monitor (though I didn't test this for fear of damaging my keyboard.)

When I called Activision to ask them to confirm or deny that the Columbine killers were avid players of the Call Of Duty series of games, my calls were not returned. Or even answered. They even turned off their answering machine, which is an admission of guilt in my opinion.

What horrible games will children be playing next year? "Cowboys and Indians", where they can shoot and scalp settlers while making wild indian war-cries? "Cops and robbers" where they will pretend to be cop-killers? What ever happened to the good old days, when boys would just get together in the treehouse and imagine themselves as doctors? Whatever happened to simple activities like "show and tell"? Those were the days.

Even worse than terrorism, there is even a league of Call of Duty players who proudly call themselves "F.A.G.S." and wear the label as a badge of honor. They claim it's an acronym for "Fight Against Grenade Spam" but that makes no sense. Viagra spam, Nigerian scam spam - my mailbox is filled with them, but I get no spam mails offering to sell me grenades. I would actually like to get some grenade spam. It would sure beat all of the "come back soon" emails from Des Moines area gay massage parlors that seem to be the most common kind of spam these days. Don't you just hate those? They don't even bother to make a proper ad, they just send an empty message titled "You left your watch here" - yeah right, buddy. I'm certain I saw my watch under the couch the other day.

In Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2: players can assasinate Bush, Cheney, and a very unflatteringly-portrayed Sarah Palin.

First off, I have to point out to you, Jeb, that your sense of understanding about anything in this game is skewed and wrong. Your screenshot does not even represent the game, indeed this game you are portraying is not Modern Warfare 2.

Your ignorance concerns me, Jeb. If you are going to sling mud, try to know what you're talking about, would you? You don't play as Stalin's footsoldier, you play as an American forces soldier trying to catch the man responsible for starting the war in the first place. You also play as an American soldier trying to -protect his home-. Wars of which Israel fought time and time again, many of which they killed not only soldiers, but men, women, children and livestock. I understand some of the reasoning behind this, but you can't sit here and tell me that that kind of violence is much different than virtual violence--God ordained or otherwise.

Furthermore, no one, and I mean no one Turkey Slaps, bites their lip to suck blood from the dead inside their monitor, or tries to urinate on their monitor. To make such allegations is absurd. I would like to see your proof and factual evidence that this even crosses the mind of those that play. I passed by a dead bird on the road the other day. Nothing of the sort came anywhere near my mind.

"Fag" has become a common term among youth, not to just designate homosexuality, but (primarily in video games) a term to taunt enemies. "You fag!" If you also don't know what the term "spam" means, your ignorance becomes even more obvious. "spam" does not have anything to do with e-mail. I work in IT and have for 6 years. I grew up in a Christian, fundamental, Bible-believing household where technology was prevalent, and I have continued that trend. "spam" is a verb. To spam is to inundate or assault repetitively with the same thing over and over again. "spam" as a noun is the byproduct of "spam" as a verb. So yes, spam in your inbox is the byproduct of e-mail spam just as much as spam is the byproduct of a grenade assault. Rape is also a gamer term in which the given individual didn't stand a chance before death. "Oh man, your shotgun raped me." There is no homosexual or even sexual inclinations.

I will hold off on debating you about Columbine, for now. But your suggestion that games such as these are what caused Columbine are also misplaced and misguided. Columbine is something that is dear to my heart and my heart rends for those who were massacred that day. But to solve the problem, you first need to properly identify it.

I hear the game makes Sarah Paline look like an utter fool. Typical Hollywood liberal trash.

While you had a fair and balanced coverage of the game you forget the popular Call of Duty practice of "bumping" your teammates to simulate gay sex. The fact that Call of Duty is a gay murder simulator is show by the fact that there are no women depicted in the games, only buff young men.

Bobby-Joe, Sarah Palin isn't in Modern Warfare 2. Though I do agree Hollywood is a spawn of an inordinate amount of liberal trash... But do me a favor and learn to spell her name right.

This "bumping" you refer to is known as "teabagging". It is a dis to the enemy that you just killed and part of mocking the opponent. It is not out of any desire to be homosexual in any way.

Your argument concerning the lack of women is faulty. Women in the army -ARE NOT- allowed to see front lines. Furthermore, PT (physical training) is a huge aspect of any form of armed services. It is -completely natural- that there are no women depicted, and only "buff" young men. Do your research.

Furthermore, if you're talking about there being no women... what about this Sarah Palin you accused of being made to look like an utter fool?

So selling drugs to little kids is no problem, just as long as you didn't make the drugs? Murdering people is no problem because you did not make the bullet? Starting to get the picture here? Video games are evil. Activision is evil. Case closed.

Video games are evil? Where does it say that in your Bible? Mine certainly doesn't. Activision is evil? Hmm... can't find that either. Your allegation that Modern Warfare 2 is evil? Also erroneous. If you hold the opinion that video games are unhealthy, I'll respect that, but your opinion is not fact. Nor are you God to say so. Likening video games to murder and drugs is a very weak argument, as they are nothing of the same. Computers can relay pornography, play vile music, attack other computers with viruses and spread the lies of your hate, yet you don't consider it evil? Your hypocrisy is astounding.

Keep your faggot brother away from Brother Jeb.

Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

John 8:7
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

I'll bet it's her unclean time. That's why she's so flippy and hateful.

You child, are a disgrace to all that is male on this planet.

Wrong! God hates sinners: Proverbs 6:16-19 "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren." Deuteronomy 12:31 "You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods."

Old man, your theology is flawed. These are under the law. There is a difference between the Old Testament and the law, and the New Testament, or new covenant with the advent of Christ.

Colossians 2:13-15
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Galatians 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Galatians 5:11
And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased.

John 3:17
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Romans 7:4
Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

We only show people what is in God's Holy Bible. It is not us you are disagreeing with, it is God!

You are not God, old man. You never will be, and your belligerent, cantankerous attitude will never be that of God's. You have hardened your heart and believe that only your personal take on God's Word is the only proper interpretation. And who are you to determine those who God loves or God hates. It's becoming quite clear to me that the very people God hates are the ones I am rebuking here and now.

Exodus 20:7
Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Matthew 24:4-5
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

You fail to realize that you are aligning yourself with the one menstrual stain on the history of Christianity: the Crusades. Men, women, and children were all butchered during the Crusades because the crusaders said "It is not us you are disagreeing with, it is God!" They blindly justified their violent, murderous behavior as "God's Will". The god you serve is not the God of the Holy Bible and he certainly is not LORD of the Jews.

I'm starting to wonder if this is some kid pretending to be a girl. Maybe playing COD makes young boys want to experiment with gender play?

Wrong, yet again.





I am appalled by your hypocrisy and your lack of understanding. You fail to see Christ's example in the Word and the purpose behind why he came.

Matthew 7:5
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Matthew 7:15-16

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?


Let's go back to basics:

Fruits of the spirit:
Galatians 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Fruits of the flesh:
Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.


It is nicely summed up at the end of Galatians 5...
25-26:If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

Matthew 16:6
Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Matthew 23:27
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

Matthew 12:34
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

You vipers, you hypocrites, you whited sepulchres. You have forsaken the One who has given you life. Turn from your pride and repent, you workers of sedition.

Luke 17:2
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Matthew 7:22-23
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

[Levi Jones]

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If you ever come back, we have a special place waiting for you.

If you want a piece of us in Biblical knowledge, you bit off more than you can chew.

Just say the word that you are still watching and we will go to work on you. Some of us might just for fun.

[Jedediah]

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Yet another false Christian twists Scripture and takes it out of context on our Godly forums. I count at least five points of reproval, and I stopped reading about halfway through.

Predictably, he twists John 8:7 against us. This is too easy, as he obviously has no understanding of God's Holy Word. I suppose I can spend time rebuking him if it will bring him closer to Christ.

[Levi Jones]

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Bunch of whining tl:dr deleted.

Your hypocrisy is astounding.

Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

What does that have to do with anything? It is clearly a bloody gorefest of a game! You think this is okay to pedddle this sort of smut to children? Won't somebody think of the children in all this?

John 8:7
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

True Christians are Perfect!

Pass me a rock, woman.

You child, are a disgrace to all that is male on this planet.

How sweet and non-judgmental of you.

Old man, your theology is flawed. These are under the law. There is a difference between the Old Testament and the law, and the New Testament, or new covenant with the advent of Christ.

Really? We are not to follow Old Testament law?

Matthew 5:17-19 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

John 3:17
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Read the next verse, asshat.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

[Levi Jones]

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Exodus 20:7
Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Didn't you just argue that the Old Testament doesn't apply? Now you want to use it to make your case?

Were you about to say that the Ten Commandments apply, but not the rest of what constitutes 3/4 of the Bible?

[Cranky Old Man]

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Video games are evil? Where does it say that in your Bible? Mine certainly doesn't. Activision is evil? Hmm... can't find that either. Your allegation that Modern Warfare 2 is evil? Also erroneous.

Did you ever actually read the Bible? Of course it does not specifically mention Modern Warfare 2, Activision, Jack the Ripper or Adolph Hitler. It explicitly explains how you can recognize evil though. It is the ultimate guideline to life. If you would have bothered to read the Bible you would have known these things.

Computers can relay pornography, play vile music, attack other computers with viruses and spread the lies of your hate, yet you don't consider it evil?

You are mistaken. Computers can not do these things. Computers are tools that can be used for good and for evil, just like a hammer. It's the user of the tool that can be evil, not the tool itself.

Old man, your theology is flawed. These are under the law. There is a difference between the Old Testament and the law, and the New Testament, or new covenant with the advent of Christ.

How can quoting Proverbs 6:16-19 ever be flawed? Do you think God created that part of the Holy Bible for you to use as toilet paper? Do you really hate God that much that you assume you can decide for yourself which parts of His Holy Bible to ignore? Are you really that arrogant?

You are not God, old man. You never will be, and your belligerent, cantankerous attitude will never be that of God's. You have hardened your heart and believe that only your personal take on God's Word is the only proper interpretation. And who are you to determine those who God loves or God hates. It's becoming quite clear to me that the very people God hates are the ones I am rebuking here and now.

I never ever claimed to be God. And I never interpret the Holy Bible either. I take everything in the Holy Bible as it was meant to be, literally!

[Austin Strait]

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My Fellow Christians, It is true that video games are evil, but this highlights a deeper moral issue with this great nation. The parents are allowing this smut to be pedaled to the children. Denying them a place in Heaven.

[Felicity]

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@Austin Strait Welcome! I hope we can be friends!

Since you are new here please look at our please read this before posting and our your rights on this forum threads! If you already did that, just do it again. There you can learn that this forum is not about debating or unsaved opinions but about praising Jesus!

If you didn't do that yet, it would be great if you could make a thread of your own in the introductions section of the forum! That way everyone here can meet you and see how much you love Jesus!

[Austin Strait]

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Thank you for the kind welcome Felicity, I have heeded your advice and posted in the introduction section. I too hope we can be good friends in this community.

[Felicity]

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@Austin Strait Great!

[HTannor]

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I didn't read beyond his opening words: "My friends."

That puke RINO , John McCain, used those words every time he opened his mouth.

Anyone barging in here using that phrase is immediately suspect.

[CoyoteWildfire]

Re: Coyote Wildfires intro.

If you ever come back, we have a special place waiting for you.

If you want a piece of us in Biblical knowledge, you bit off more than you can chew.

Just say the word that you are still watching and we will go to work on you. Some of us might just for fun.

*chuckles* Nay, Jones, the fun is all mine. But thank you for the welcome anyway.

Yet another false Christian twists Scripture and takes it out of context on our Godly forums. I count at least five points of reproval, and I stopped reading about halfway through.

Predictably, he twists John 8:7 against us. This is too easy, as he obviously has no understanding of God's Holy Word. I suppose I can spend time rebuking him if it will bring him closer to Christ.

Proverbs 15:5
A fool despiseth his father's instruction: but he that regardeth reproof is prudent.

There is no twist to God's Holy Word here, but yours, Jedediah. I speak nothing but God's truth. Furthermore, you stopped reading halfway through. For shame, for shame. You can't even place a valid argument unless you've read the whole material.

But I will sum up the ending for you, so it's made clear:

Matthew 7:22-23
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Your hypocrisy is astounding.



What does that have to do with anything? It is clearly a bloody gorefest of a game! You think this is okay to pedddle this sort of smut to children? Won't somebody think of the children in all this?



True Christians are Perfect!

Pass me a rock, woman.




How sweet and non-judgmental of you.



Really? We are not to follow Old Testament law?

Matthew 5:17-19 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:



Read the next verse, asshat.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Jones, Jones, such a martyr. You amuse me. And no, I don't think it's wise to sell these games to children. However, your reasoning behind banning the game is flawed. Do yourself and the rest of your community a favor and get some verifiable reasons behind why it could be detrimental to a child.

Now, let's address your pitiful mess of warped Theology, shall we? You tout yourself as a pastor, so a man of your.........caliber.....surely must know the Romans road.

"True Christians are Perfect!

Pass me a rock, woman."

Really Jones?

Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Romans 3:10
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
1 John 1:7-9
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

You are not perfect. I read your walking mass of circular reasoning you try to pawn off as proof of your perfection, but we are merely called or exhorted to be perfect. We humans are sinful, always will be, and that is why we need the blood of Christ.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 10:9
that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Romans 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

And since you're so fond of using vulgar language... "asshat"? Shame shame, Jones.

Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

And speaking of corrupt... try not to corrupt the Scriptures too, while you're at it.

John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Why are they condemned already? Not because God condemned them. They condemned themselves by the rejection of Salvation. God knows, and God knew who would choose Him or not, thus who would and would not be "already" condemned.

2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

You need to learn the importance of the cross, and how CHRISTians are to focus on Christ as our Lord and Savior. Let's not cheapen what He came here to do, and that was to provide salvation to those that want Him. To place everyone under the law nullifies that. There's no point to salvation if we are still in bondage.

Galatians 5:1-6,
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

So yet again, you twist the Scriptures:
"Matthew 5:17-19 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

All has been fulfilled. Christ's death has been fulfilled and His sacrifice complete.
John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Galatians 5:11-14

And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased. I would they were even cut off which trouble you. For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Yes, we are to take the law into account. In fact, the law has a great amount of good guidelines for us to live by, but the law is no longer necessary for our Salvation and for a relationship with Jesus.

Yes, all Scripture is God-breathed. I'm glad you finally said something that makes sense. Our Scriptures are divinely inspired--now, it's a shame to me why you can't see the grace, love, and mercy of Emanuel. Perhaps you may wish to look up the word "profitable". Profitable is an adjective that literally means:
yielding profit; remunerative, beneficial or useful.

No where, and by no means does profitable state anything to do with being "necessary". So we can be clear, let me also give you the definition for that.
being essential, indispensable, or requisite,

So, do me a favor, and try to take the Bible more literally, would you? This is the KJV1611 we're talking about here.

Didn't you just argue that the Old Testament doesn't apply? Now you want to use it to make your case?

Were you about to say that the Ten Commandments apply, but not the rest of what constitutes 3/4 of the Bible?

Well! For someone who says tl:dr (too long: didn't read), you certainly like to try to argue me, don't you? Or perhaps you lied, and actually read it after all?

First off, no, I didn't say that the Old Testament doesn't apply. I said that you need to understand the difference between Old Testament and New Testament and the importance of Christ's advent--a shift away from the law, good as it may be for personal reasons, not necessary for Salvation. Furthermore, you need to understand the love of Christ before you can appropriately represent Him.

Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Well, if you're to be perfect like God is perfect, and to try to be like Him, then you also need to understand His longsuffering, His mercy, and His grace. God, being just, and being sovereign, also forgives and shows tenderness. And in fact, I believe the Old Testament is a great testimony of just that...

Exodus 34:6
And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,
Number 14:18
The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
Psalm 86:15
But thou, O Lord, art a God full of compassion, and gracious, long suffering, and plenteous in mercy and truth.
Jeremiah 15:15
O LORD, thou knowest: remember me, and visit me, and revenge me of my persecutors; take me not away in thy longsuffering: know that for thy sake I have suffered rebuke.

So, literally, you must accept that God, though just, is not hate. He is loving, and caring, and though He is righteous and sovereign, God also is loving, forgiving, merciful, and gracious.

1 John 4:8-20
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. We love him, because he first loved us. If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

So, then, let's continue this train of thought with:
1 Corinthians 13:13
And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

Did you ever actually read the Bible? Of course it does not specifically mention Modern Warfare 2, Activision, Jack the Ripper or Adolph Hitler. It explicitly explains how you can recognize evil though. It is the ultimate guideline to life. If you would have bothered to read the Bible you would have known these things.

You are mistaken. Computers can not do these things. Computers are tools that can be used for good and for evil, just like a hammer. It's the user of the tool that can be evil, not the tool itself.

How can quoting Proverbs 6:16-19 ever be flawed? Do you think God created that part of the Holy Bible for you to use as toilet paper? Do you really hate God that much that you assume you can decide for yourself which parts of His Holy Bible to ignore? Are you really that arrogant?

I never ever claimed to be God. And I never interpret the Holy Bible either. I take everything in the Holy Bible as it was meant to be, literally!

Cranky, my good man, living up to your name.

First, I read the Bible daily, and I spent time with Christ also daily. And of course I know these things, the Word is a guideline for our everyday lives, helps to dispel darkness and lies around us.

"You are mistaken. Computers can not do these things. Computers are tools that can be used for good and for evil, just like a hammer. It's the user of the tool that can be evil, not the tool itself."

Oh good. I was hoping you'd say that. So now that I've already proven that to take the Bible literally, you must also acknowledge that the God of the Bible is also loving, merciful, gracious, kind, and that these qualities are the parts of God we are to emulate. So, then, you taking the Word so terribly out of place like you have been, means that you are using God's inspired, Holy Word, as a tool for your hate. Therefore, if you are using this tool meant for good, as a tool for hate, (which you claim to interpret literally, yet deny the truth of God's love for mankind), you must surely see that it is not the Bible that is evil, but you.

"How can quoting Proverbs 6:16-19 ever be flawed? Do you think God created that part of the Holy Bible for you to use as toilet paper? Do you really hate God that much that you assume you can decide for yourself which parts of His Holy Bible to ignore? Are you really that arrogant?"

There is nothing flawed with Proverbs 6. I'm sure you and I both can agree, but quoting it to use in your argument and not applying the 19th verse to yourself? I find your hypocrisy disconcerting.

Proverbs 6:19
A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

This entire site is about discord. Everything you have uttered has been to tear down the people that don't agree with you. Your belligerence can easily sow discord between Christians. Between those that love and those that hate. And surely, you understand that God is a God of order.

1 Corinthians 14:40
Let all things be done decently and in order.

I don't "choose" parts of the Bible to adhere to. As your crass friend, Mr. Jones over there put it:

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Yet you choose to pick and choose parts of the Bible and only acknowledge God's hate. You blindly, rudely, and disrespectfully speak to others, you have little consideration for the example you're setting when you yourself are supposed to be as Christ, and you are not displaying any of the fruits of the spirit.

So am I arrogant? Not at all. But it is you, who are arrogant to tell people that they are the one God hates or that they are the one God loves. You do not determine that, and the scriptures that spoke of who God hates and what are abominations are for understanding--not for a tool to use to brow bash someone. Through those scriptures, we can come to understand what makes God angry and what He doesn't like, but it is not our responsibility.

Matthew 10:14
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

We shake off the dust of our feet. We leave. We are to be salt and light in the world, not gunpowder. Salt has a curative, preservative effect, to make things good and to keep them from rotting. Light dispels darkness and helps us to see clearly. Meaning, we are called to preserve the souls of those around us and bring them to Christ, to show them the light of His Salvation. When blowing the Scriptures that display God's hatred way out of proportion, like that's the only means of His interaction with people, and becoming hateful yourself, you are choking the Spirit. You are turning away those who the Lord may have called you to reach. But instead, you rage rage rage and I would like to hear how your still, small voice inside could tell you to hate so fiercely, and to judge with such prejudice.

So Levi, question for you.

Leviticus 19:27 "Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard."

Where's your beard?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Coyote Wildfires intro.

You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

It's PASTOR Jones. Got it?

Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.

My guess is that you're a witch.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Coyote Wildfires intro.

Matthew 7:22-23
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

I'm glad your realize how badly your soul is in peril. You should commit those verses to memory the next time you want to defile these holy forums with you lies and depredations.

Jones, Jones, such a martyr. You amuse me. And no, I don't think it's wise to sell these games to children. However, your reasoning behind banning the game is flawed. Do yourself and the rest of your community a favor and get some verifiable reasons behind why it could be detrimental to a child.

There are hundreds of studies on the effect of violent imagery on chidren. That Google thingy is your friend.

Now, let's address your pitiful mess of warped Theology, shall we? You tout yourself as a pastor, so a man of your.........caliber.....surely must know the Romans road.

Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Romans 3:10
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

That's taken completely out of context. Read all of Romans 3, cherrypicker. That only speaks about prior to accepting Jesus as our Lord and Savior.

24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

1 John 1:7-9
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Obviously, you're looking at it wrong again. 1 John 1 is life prior to Salvation. John goes on to write in Chapter 3,

5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

You are not perfect. I read your walking mass of circular reasoning you try to pawn off as proof of your perfection, but we are merely called or exhorted to be perfect. We humans are sinful, always will be, and that is why we need the blood of Christ.

Luke 6:40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

How is perfection impossible if Jesus himself exhorts us to attain it? That doesn't seem particularly fair if Jesus says be perfect like God even though that's impossible.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Thank you for proving my point for me. The wages of sin is death. We are without sin!

Romans 10:9
that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Didn't you just post Matthew 7:22-23?

Romans 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

Maybe calling you a liar an evil beast or a slow belly would be more Biblical, Cretan.

Why are they condemned already? Not because God condemned them. They condemned themselves by the rejection of Salvation. God knows, and God knew who would choose Him or not, thus who would and would not be "already" condemned.

God doesn't condemn them? I guess they just trip and fall into the firey furnace.

Matthew 13:41-42 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Exactly! Depart from iniquity. Thank you for proving my point again.

You need to learn the importance of the cross, and how CHRISTians are to focus on Christ as our Lord and Savior. Let's not cheapen what He came here to do, and that was to provide salvation to those that want Him. To place everyone under the law nullifies that. There's no point to salvation if we are still in bondage.

Galatians 5:1-6,
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

Acts 15:19-21
Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.



James is saying we should teach and follow the Old Testament as well. I'm sorry you feel the need to treat 3/4 of the Bible as toilet paper.

So yet again, you twist the Scriptures:
"Matthew 5:17-19 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

All has been fulfilled. Christ's death has been fulfilled and His sacrifice complete.

Wrong!! The Apocalypse has not occurred yet. There are many Old Testament prophecies that have not yet been fulfilled either. Plus what part of this scripture are you having trouble understanding?

Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Was that the end? Did the veil not rip? Did the dead not rise and wander to Jerusalem? Did Jesus not return? Do we not have the end of times prophecy?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Coyote Wildfires intro.

Galatians 5:11-14 And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased. I would they were even cut off which trouble you. For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Who is my neighbor?

Also John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

not necessary for Salvation.

All scripture is God breathed, but you feel like you can ignore what you want to. How convenient.

1 John 4:8-20 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

That is one aspect of God. Allow me to give you another.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

But you probably don't believe that because it's Old Testament. God is all fluffy kittens, puppies and rainbows to you, right?

In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

No one takes our Lord and Savior's temporary death for us more seriously than I do.

tl:dr wall of copypaste skipped over.

Leviticus 19:27 "Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard." Where's your beard?

I don't have one. That scripture doesn't say I can't shave it off, does it?