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  • J_River
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    • Jul 2010
    • 2

    #1

    Hi, i'm a bit different, but not bad...

    Hello there.

    Forgive me if i make any mistakes using my English, as it is not my native language. I was searching for a quote in Google and came across this site. I thought i'd join and meet new people.

    Well, i have my own perceptions, and i don't know what they make me. But i know that ultimately, we're all humans and we all have our ways.

    What am i ? Well, i don't like to name things. As they are only words, considering, if someone was born inside the woods and grew all by himself, he would be naming things his own way.

    Well ok, a little hint; I'm 22, male.

    I really am a thoughtful person, and i really think a LOT about things.

    So, i think i'll stick around for a while. So, if you'd like to know me a bit, know what's on my mind, (not that you'd care or not, but i just don't feel like sleeping right now and i got nothing else better to do.) i'd like you to read the following interview. i'll ask, and i'll answer... Enjoy

    What do you know for sure ?

    We're all created. Everything is. It's the fact.

    By who ?

    Ultimately ? The one and only creator.

    How ?

    Nature, takes its course. But nature, is also a being. If there's a being, then it has to be created. Things (material and concept) can not create themselves. It's against the absolute physical values.

    How are you so sure that there's no evolution ?

    I didn't say that. There can be evolution. What difference does it make ? If there is evolution, which i highly suspect, then there has to be someone who pulled the trigger in the first place. I mean, what do you need for evolution ? Matter ? Space ? Time ? So who created those ..? You're telling me that galaxies appeared all of a sudden in the black emptyness (there can't even be an emptyness if it wasn't created) without someone creating them ?

    What if they existed forever ?

    Impossible. Matter is pure energy. Energy needs a source. <-- Physical fact. There can NOT be an absoulte source inside the space. But the space doesn't have an outside either. It's endless, because it's not an object. Simply, it doesn't have a size. So, the source is beyond perception. That is also the source which made the space possible. The emptyness, is a concept. Because it exists. Therefore, it is a being.

    So who created this Absolute Source then ?

    Nothing. As you just said, He is absolute. He is not a being, nor a creature. But the creator. He doesn't need to be created in order to exist. That's why He's the only actual higher being.

    That sounds crazy. Can you be more specific ?

    We are all after-comers. That's why it sounds crazy to you. Open your mind, and you will figure it out. I have...

    So why create ? What's the purpose ?

    You were right about one thing. Some things existed forever. But still, they were created. Obviously, He wouldn't wait to create His playground. The creation, depends on Him. The creation, is everything He knows. The creation, is the mirror of the ultimate knowledge. There is no purpose. The creation, is the purpose. It is also the goal. It is, the ultimate concept.

    Oh and, if you asked me a silly question like "When did he start creating ?", it really would be a silly thing to ask, since, there's no such thing as time in His regard.

    Why create humans ?

    Humans, are His image. Because we are the only creatures who are able to conceive good and bad, beautiful and ugly, and all other relative accounts. There's no specific reason for our existence. We always existed in His knowledge. We just came into being in this realm before we knew.

    That doesn't quite answer my question ..?

    We were created, but we existed forever. All things depend on Him.

    I still don't get why we were created ?

    We're created because we were always in his knowledge. He doesn't learn, He doesn't figure things out. He's the ultimate knowledge. Everything reaches to their final destination because He wishes so. Our final destination was to be created.

    Why He wished for humans ?

    He wished for countless trillions of things. We're just one of them in the total concept of things. I don't have any further information about this.

    What if all this is rubbish and aliens from outer space put us here ?

    Then who put the aliens in there ? Where's the material they use to build their UFOs coming from ? And i don't think aliens would do such a thing. Why would they even bother creating bugs, insects, oranges, apples, psycho monkeys, watermellons, bananas, pine trees and all that ? I don't see it. What's the catch ? Slave race ? Hardly... If they need slaves, then they must be such a primitive race. I don't really think someone would bother. I personally wouldn't bother creating creatures able to taste, mate, and be logical. They would just create robots instead.

    Ok, let's change the subject. What do you think about the holy people ? Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Mohamed, Noah etc. ?

    I don't know. I have never met one of them. Some people claim they have though.

    So you don't believe that the holy books and the holy people are really holy ?

    I do. They are holy. They are from the Creator.

    But you sounded uncaring earlier ?

    I didn't. I just stated that i've never met one of them. How could i possibly claim anything ? People say things about them but i feel i don't have the right to. All i rely on, is my heart.

    What about the holy books ?

    I know they're from the Creator. I felt it when i read them. But they might have been changed in particular ways. I'm not a witness to whatever happened. But i'm sure i was already aware of the morals and the values which exist in those books.

    There must have been hundred thousands of people before the very first prophet. They never received anything from the Creator, except for their hearts. You can't blame them for being born before the holy stuff, can you ?

    Those books, and those holy people, were for their generations. It's okay to learn something from them, unless they weren't changed by humans, which we can never be sure of.

    What do you think of Jesus Christ ?

    I know for sure, that he's not the son of the Creator. The glorious God, isn't human. He's far from having an human child.

    I stuied history, along with a lot of personal research. I know for a fact that Jesus Christ was born to a virgin mother. This doesn't mean that he's the son of the creator. He's a servant. He followed the Creator's orders, and tried to remind humans of what's waiting for them. Just like any other prophet. The creator, gave him the Bible. But He gave Moses the 10 commandments, gave Modamed the Quran. The books, are way too similar.

    I see some people, worshipping Jesus, and asking for forgiveness. I, would never do such a thing. The only forgiveness, comes from the Creator. He's the absolute power, and he's the creator of all things. He'll never share his place with a creature. Jesus Christ, being an human, can't be on the same level as God. No doubt, one of God's favorites, and ought to be called a perfect human, as God chose him to represent His morals and values. But if you start to worship a creature, this will end up asking for the rage of the Creator. That's what i feel inside. How can you ask for forgiveness from someone who was also created ? This is wrong. A person should have unlimited respect for the values Jesus Christ manifested, that should be the purpose. On the other hand, he's not capable of saving anyone. God is the only one who can save you. And you, are supposed to ask for forgivenes from Him. Because, He, created you. Not Jesus. Jesus only showed the way, following the Creator's orders.

    What about Mohamed and others ?

    Same as Jesus Christ. They were born in different places at different times. God gave them orders, because primitive and thoughtless people were out of control. There were those who believed, that the God was only theirs. They called themselves "the followers of Moses". Jesus, was sent to bring wisdom.

    Moses, was sent to the Pharaoh. Modamed's time, people worshipped chipped rocks and tin gods. He was also sent to lead them to the right path.

    They were all sent for a purpose. And they don't have any differences. Why would they ? This is not an elementary school game, "my dad beats your dad punk!!!". People are wasting their time with such silly matters. My personal advice to them would be : let them be, see what's ahead !


    What do you think about heaven and hell ?

    If you're aware of relativity in your conscience, then you're responsible for your actions. You choose good (which is, in particular, treating other creatures good) or you choose bad (the opposite of good).

    You are, what you are. But, your conscience, is from the Creator, it's what makes you human. And it's free to decide things.
    Either you choose to listen to it, or you don't. Eventually, you will receive, what you have done.

    What if i haven't done anything ?

    You probably don't realize, or notice them. You're always doing something. A look, is doing something.

    Why did God create evil ?

    He created everything. He loves some of it, hates some of it. Relativity, is the key to all creation. If there wasn't hot, there wouldn't be cold. It's the equation. Evil, is something he hates. Because if He didn't hate evil, He'd be evil. If he was evil, there wouldn't be a need for heaven.

    So what are you ? Christian ? Jewish ? Muslim ?

    What does it matter ? All i know is, i'm here, and i didn't create me. What would it possibly do for me to include myself in some society with a name ?
    I, stopped listening to the crowd. And i figured things out, using my mind.

    Things matter, within the heart. And God, knows my heart, better than me.

    Thanks for the interview you slacker.

    You're welcome bud.

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    Alright, that was me. Just so you know, i always like to get along with people and i never want to offend anyone. But i like to keep honest.

    So, looking forward to meeting all of you.
  • Brother Harold Porter
    Landover Senior Outreach
    Touching Men, Women and Children with the Good News!
    True Christian™
    • Jun 2010
    • 8236

    #2
    Re: Hi, i'm a bit different, but not bad...

    Yawn...

    We don't have time here to read atheistic twaddle. We serve the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Make your idiotic point in 3 or fewer sentences and we MIGHT reply.

    Get saved or enjoy the Fry Daddy!
    Matthew 19:14 "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

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    • J_River
      Unsaved trash
      Under Investigation
      • Jul 2010
      • 2

      #3
      Re: Hi, i'm a bit different, but not bad...

      Originally posted by Rubicon View Post
      Yawn...

      We don't have time here to read atheistic twaddle. We serve the Lord Jesus Christ.

      Make your idiotic point in 3 or fewer sentences and we MIGHT reply.

      Get saved or enjoy the Fry Daddy!
      An atheistic twaddle ? Do i sound like an athesit ? I thought i was the biggest enemy of atheists...

      Thanks for the warm welcome though.

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      • Nobar King
        Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
        Christ's Guardian
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2007
        • 23748

        #4
        Re: Hi, i'm a bit different, but not bad...

        Still wasn't much of an introduction. When you meet someone, is that the first thing that you tell them?
        May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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        • James Dewitt
          #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
          • Jan 2010
          • 6267

          #5
          Re: Hi, i'm a bit different, but not bad...

          I read the first post, then I re read the post 3 more times. All I figured out was he is 22 and that's about it. I knew someone back home in New York that spoke just like him, as it turned out he was a she, and is in Hell now.

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          • Pastor Ezekiel
            Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
             
            • Sep 2006
            • 78556

            #6
            Re: Hi, i'm a bit different, but not bad...

            Where did you copy/paste that monologue, pal?

            What church do you attend? Why don't you tell us about yourself now?
            Who Will Jesus Damn?

            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

            Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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            • Lisa H
              Proud to be Blonde, Beautiful, and Baptist
              True Christian™
              • Jun 2010
              • 5070

              #7
              Re: Hi, i'm a bit different, but not bad...

              Start reading the Kings James Bible from the first page. Genesis will help you.
              Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
              Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
              Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
              Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
              Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
              Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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              • Professor Bessemer
                Professor of Creation Science at Landover University
                Certified Ex-Gay Program Graduate
                Darwin's Worst Nightmare
                True Christian™
                • May 2009
                • 2952

                #8
                Re: Hi, i'm a bit different, but not bad...

                Originally posted by J_River View Post
                Massive Snippage
                That was much too long to read for a busy Scientheist like myself. If you are a saved Christian, I welcome you to our holy forum. If you are not, I welcome you as well, but I am saddened by the state of your hell bound soul.

                Also, I am sorry you do not speak God's Favorite Language™ properly, that must make it difficult for Him to understand your foreign prayers.
                Professor of Creation Science and Flood Geology at Landover Baptist University


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                Sodomites! Stop being gay TODAY!

                Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. James 1:21

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                • Mark Howards
                  Unsaved trash
                  Under Investigation
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 4

                  #9
                  Re: Hi, i'm a bit different, but not bad...

                  Heres a Better introduction
                  GOD MADE YOU AND WILL SEND ALL UNSAVED TO HELL
                  We need not explain our beliefs to the unsaved trash.
                  Praising and Preaching for Jesus In the Oval Office Until Evil Took Over!

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                  • Phebe Carlyle
                    GALS 4 GOD Guidance Counseler
                    Expert at baking, sewing, and rebuking unsaved scum
                    True Christian™
                    • May 2010
                    • 2604

                    #10
                    Re: Hi, i'm a bit different, but not bad...

                    I am just befuddled why that joo Joan Rivers would even be posting here!

                    YIC,

                    Mrs.P.Wintersnow




                    There's Jesus here,
                    Just see what He offers me....
                    Down here my sins forgiven,
                    Up there a home in heaven
                    Praise God, That's the way for me!!

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                    • True Disciple
                      True Christian™ Creation Scientist
                      Landover Baptist University Associate Professor
                      Smashing atheist science one fact at a time
                      True Christian™
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 2445

                      #11
                      Re: Hi, i'm a bit different, but not bad...

                      Are you maybe a little bit, um, schizophrenic or something...?
                      Sweet Lord Jesus,
                      I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
                      Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
                      Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
                      Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
                      Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
                      Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
                      Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

                      Amen.

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