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  • #31
    Re: Maby you can help me?

    @Bobby-Joe: You do indeed state a quite compelling argument, though it is also one I have dealt with coming from several others. The answer I give is that I (somewhat sadly, actually) cannot live by blind faith. I must prove (or disprove) to myself that God (or another deity) exists byond a reasonable doubt.
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    • #32
      Re: Maby you can help me?

      Originally posted by LAZARUS_GUY View Post
      @Bobby-Joe: You do indeed state a quite compelling argument, though it is also one I have dealt with coming from several others. The answer I give is that I (somewhat sadly, actually) cannot live by blind faith. I must prove (or disprove) to myself that God (or another deity) exists byond a reasonable doubt.
      This excuse will only serve to land you in Hell.
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      • #33
        Re: Maby you can help me?

        Originally posted by LAZARUS_GUY View Post
        @Bobby-Joe: You do indeed state a quite compelling argument, though it is also one I have dealt with coming from several others. The answer I give is that I (somewhat sadly, actually) cannot live by blind faith. I must prove (or disprove) to myself that God (or another deity) exists byond a reasonable doubt.
        Then enjoy eternal torture in hell

        Romans 14:23
        And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

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        • #34
          Re: Maby you can help me?

          @Billy Bob Jenkins: 'Tis not an excuse, but simply the way I am. Nice collection of smilies though.
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          • #35
            Re: Maby you can help me?

            Originally posted by LAZARUS_GUY View Post
            @Billy Bob Jenkins: 'Tis not an excuse, but simply the way I am. Nice collection of smilies though.
            I don't see how this excuse is any better when it comes to saving your soul.
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            • #36
              Re: Maby you can help me?

              Originally posted by LAZARUS_GUY View Post
              @Billy Bob Jenkins: 'Tis not an excuse, but simply the way I am. Nice collection of smilies though.
              A place of hopelessness and suffering - as a woman is about to give birth to a child, many go through painful labor that can last from a few minutes to a few days. But through this painful anguishing time, there is hope that when the child is born this terrible labor pain will subside. Just imagine if you can if that pain was multiplied many times over and you would never have hope of it ever going away forever? You would do anything to die to get rid of the pain, but it would always remain and continue forever and ever and ever. THIS IS HELL!

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              • #37
                Re: Maby you can help me?

                Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
                You have to look at it this way friend; you admit God may exist? Correct? Then you have to admit God may toss you into Hell for not believing He exists.
                I have covered this several times before, but I will say it again, a loving God of any kind would not Damn someone to Hell.


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                2 It is my contention that a loving God of any kind would not Damn someone to Hell.
                3 Darning them to Heck would be a problem for a supposedly intelligent creator.
                4 Lakes of fire, boiling waters, sauces, etc, aren't a good choice.
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                • #38
                  Re: Maby you can help me?

                  If blind faith is required, then I cannot be apart of this religion.

                  Thank you Levi Jones and Brother Snapper Grogan for your help in finding appropriate reading material. This I will continue to read in it's entirety as I may yet find some inspiration from those words.

                  Thank you Jo Freddie for your input on the Pastafarian Church, this will be the next religion under my study.

                  I will stick around for another few posts before actually departing, to answer any last thoughtful questions or to receive any last information. I will not be responding to anything I may have already dealt with, nor to posts that simmer down to 'have fun in hell,' as that would be unproductive.
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                  • #39
                    Re: Maby you can help me?

                    Originally posted by LAZARUS_GUY View Post
                    If blind faith is required, then I cannot be apart of this religion.
                    Mark 16:16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

                    John 3:36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

                    Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

                    Luke 11:23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Maby you can help me?

                      Originally posted by LAZARUS_GUY View Post
                      @Bobby-Joe: You do indeed state a quite compelling argument, though it is also one I have dealt with coming from several others. The answer I give is that I (somewhat sadly, actually) cannot live by blind faith. I must prove (or disprove) to myself that God (or another deity) exists byond a reasonable doubt.
                      Proving exists is easy friend. All you have to do is look beyond blinders the atheist dogmatist have placed over you eyes. Consider for example the cucumber; since there is no natural reason for a vegetable suitable for self abuse clearly God must of created it as a trap for sinners to damn themselves with.

                      PS I would not listen to Jo Freddie, religion is more than some oddly worded book.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Maby you can help me?

                        @Jo Freddie: Love the quote, it makes much sense to me.

                        @Heathen_Basher: All those quotes deal with faith, but I do not see a reference to blind faith.

                        @Bobby-Joe: Self-abuse? There are plenty of natural and artificial objects one could use towards that end. I found and read the thread dealing with that explanation, but frankly I find your logic lacking any true connections between potential for self-abuse and an intelligent deity.


                        Also, it has come to my attention that one Pastor Ezekiel has given me a 90 point penalty for being a 'Hateful Bigot.' As far as I can see, I have just inquired about your religion, had a conversation or two with a few of the members, thanked people for their help, and said I was leaving soon. I fail to find what makes me a 'Hateful Bigot.' Anyone have any ideas?
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                        • #42
                          Re: Maby you can help me?

                          Oh Mr Lazarus.

                          How appropriate is your name?

                          Right now you feel dead and are waiting for that spark of life that only the one true God can give you.

                          Lazarus was deceased for four days, so you can not run from this forum yet as you have not served your time.

                          Your obvious yearning to be reborn is nigh.

                          Have faith young man.

                          You have come to the right place to find Life.

                          John 3:16 (King James Version)
                          16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
                          2 Chronicles 7:14
                          14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land Australia.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Maby you can help me?

                            Originally posted by Charli Harley View Post
                            Oh Mr Lazarus.

                            How appropriate is your name?

                            Right now you feel dead and are waiting for that spark of life that only the one true God can give you.

                            Lazarus was deceased for four days, so you can not run from this forum yet as you have not served your time.

                            Your obvious yearning to be reborn is nigh.

                            Have faith young man.

                            You have come to the right place to find Life.

                            John 3:16 (King James Version)
                            16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
                            Thank you for your optimism. Fret not, as I am sticking around a short while longer, though it seems that the input to this thread is dwindling.
                            My avatar pic is copyright Renee Salassa Banks, 2010.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Maby you can help me?

                              Son, I'll make ot easy for you as it seems like many of the kids today, they are unwilling to turn a stone to see what is under it instead requiring aduts do it for them and explain it all so it does not interfer with their 'sexting' (- I've seen 60 minutes).

                              You are right, as explained to you, we follow the KJV. We follow it to the letter. The only time we cannot do so is when secular law makes Biblical law a crime (go figure - man thinking he knows better than God!). All other religions whitewash His Word(c). The skip entire sections of the Bible. It is all mashed potatoes and bolid carrots. Not a spec of meat whereas for us, the Bible is choice Grade A dripping with the Blood of Christ.
                              Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                              Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                              Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                              Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                              Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                              Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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