[Meek and Humble]

Re: Hello, I am a derp :B

were allowed to speak all we like about whatever we like. religion is not welcome though.

Oh, you are allowed to speak except for what you're not allowed to speak about. Makes perfect sense

Freedom of religion, you'll find, also comes under the 1st amendment and is considered a basic human right in most of the civilized nations of the world. Which backwards hellhole do you come from?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Hello, I am a derp :B

So... you'll electronically state threats of physical violence when people question the morality or validity of your religion,

Nobody here has threatened anyone with physical violence.

We have told you what God will do with your immortal soul. That is not us threatening violence, that is us informing you of consequences.

Suppose your neighbor tells you, "If you drive drunk and run someone over, you'll go to jail." Is your neighbor threatening you with jail time? No. Your neighbor is informing you of the consequences of your actions.

If you refuse to worship God the way He demands, He will torture you for eternity in His Lake of Fire.

Consequences.

[Imam Rashik]

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why are you even commenting? on another note: why are you even on this site? i thought this was a Christan forum?

I could ask you the same question. What would your answer be, you do not believe in Allah (pbuh) like the Christians do.

The Christians believe in Allah (pbuh) but have have been corrupted in their following. Is it wrong to share knowledge of Allah (pbuh).

SURA 2.
112. Yes! whoever submits himself entirely to Allah and he is the doer of good [to others] he has his reward from his Lord, and there is no fear for him nor shall he grieve.
113. And the Jews say: The Christians do not follow anything [good] and the Christians say: The Jews do not follow anything [good] while they recite the [same] Book. Even thus say those who have no knowledge, like to what they say; so Allah shall judge between them on the day of resurrection in what they differ.

SURA 5.
15. And with those who say, We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and Allah will inform them of what they did.

[Theprinceamongmen]

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I personally think it's sad you live in a totalitarian dictatorship where freedom of speech is outlawed

were allowed to speak all we like about whatever we like. religion is not welcome though.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Hello, I am a derp :B

look. i cant read the bible in one night, alright? you have to allow me some time to read and perhaps process rather than 'skim' as someone has said that others do.

im not here to argue or battle anyone, i just want to learn. im curious but im not magical nor am i anything particularly magnificent, but if you say im spoonfed watered down scripture, id like the time to be able to read the book youre so adamant about.

Who on earth said you had to read the book in one night? This is why you have to read more - your comprehension skills are lacking.

All we ask is that you reserve questions until after you are done reading it. Just like one somebody is making a speech. No point interrupting when the answer is probably further on.

any 'guidance' you can offer would be much welcome,

Why don't you read some of these passages, for starters, to help you learn why it's important to do what God wants. You can look them up at www.biblegateway.com

Genesis 38:7

Exodus 4:23

Leviticus 10:1-2

Numbers 11:1

Deuteronomy 28:21

Joshua 10:10

Judges 14:19

1 Samuel 6:19

i can sincerely understand why my school does not want any religious conversations within its walls, its simply a battle all around if the wrong thing is said.

I personally think it's sad you live in a totalitarian dictatorship where freedom of speech is outlawed

[Theprinceamongmen]

Re: Hello, I am a derp :B

Go to you local Mosque and ask the Imam to help you. He will also give you a Quran to take home.

why are you even commenting? on another note: why are you even on this site? i thought this was a Christan forum?

[StanHasAGoodUnion]

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Hey! We do not HIDE behind the Bible! We declare its actual, printed content for all the world to see. We get a lot of grief for doing that, but we feel strongly about our mission and ride out the written abuse.

And yes, I suppose that there is some validity to your little jab about us being internet tough guys, but you are standing up oh-so-bravely using the same medium, aren't you?

The defense that I offer on behalf of my brethren is the same that I extend on behalf of Bugs Bunny.

In adventure after adventure, Bugs is always minding his own business. Oftentimes, sitting in a comfortable stuffed chair down in his hole, munching contentedly on a carrot, when Elmer Fudd or Yosemite Sam or whoever comes looking for him and starts making trouble.

Bugs is never out there, roaming the 'hood, looking for a fight. They come after him. And it is hardly his fault that he has them totally outclassed in the intelligence department. Besides the more brute methods for dealing with his tormentors, i.e. heavy iron anvils, Bugs often employs the arts. Symphonies, opera, Shakespeare, Bugs pulls 'em all out in an effort to end the conflict that they started so he can get back to relaxing with a tasty carrot.

So... you'll electronically state threats of physical violence when people question the morality or validity of your religion, instead of citing any valid counter argument (validity being based upon a lack circular logic), and your defense in doing so is based around a cartoon rabbit...

Brilliant. I wish I had thought of that one, maybe I can justify uttering threats in public by saying Yosemite Sam gets away with it. Threaten to blow up a mosque because Wile E Coyote blows buildings up all the time with no repercussions.

Bear in mind I am of the same religion as you... Just not a supporter of the same team per say. My beliefs are held as being valid by the pope, and I have read your version of our shared religious text.

What I see coming from this forum is people trying to deny things that are considered "accepted flaws" of a religion. It's easy to say that your reference guide was written very long ago by people so ignorant they likely couldn't verify any of their information (earth not being flat, earth not being center of universe, peoples ages being 500 or so years, and the earth being 3000-4000 years old) and follow up by saying that at least the morals are in the right place and god didn't want to share with them all the information on the world at that time.

Instead you go the other route defending things such as the age of the earth, it's flatness, etc.

At least the terrorists make it apparent that their religion is crazy
On the other hand you people are making me ashamed to be a supporter of Stan, because your extremist branch of Christianity is making the rest of us look bad... Go read a Nat.Geo or something science proves a lot more than a book written by ignorant Israelis can.

(and yes, yes you are hiding behind the bible, its called "circular logic", look it up)

[Imam Rashik]

Re: Hello, I am a derp :B

look. i cant read the bible in one night, alright? you have to allow me some time to read and perhaps process rather than 'skim' as someone has said that others do.

im not here to argue or battle anyone, i just want to learn. im curious but im not magical nor am i anything particularly magnificent, but if you say im spoonfed watered down scripture, id like the time to be able to read the book youre so adamant about.

any 'guidance' you can offer would be much welcome, but any negative comments or thoughts really turn me the opposite way. i can sincerely understand why my school does not want any religious conversations within its walls, its simply a battle all around if the wrong thing is said.

Go to you local Mosque and ask the Imam to help you. He will also give you a Quran to take home.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hello, I am a derp :B

Brother V's Bible in a year

[Theprinceamongmen]

Re: Hello, I am a derp :B

look. i cant read the bible in one night, alright? you have to allow me some time to read and perhaps process rather than 'skim' as someone has said that others do.

im not here to argue or battle anyone, i just want to learn. im curious but im not magical nor am i anything particularly magnificent, but if you say im spoonfed watered down scripture, id like the time to be able to read the book youre so adamant about.

any 'guidance' you can offer would be much welcome, but any negative comments or thoughts really turn me the opposite way. i can sincerely understand why my school does not want any religious conversations within its walls, its simply a battle all around if the wrong thing is said.

[SpiritedScholar]

Re: Hello, I am a derp :B

Off topic, but why is True Christian™ trade marketed?

Is there some sort of business profit here that I'm unaware of?

[Jedediah]

Re: Hello, I am a derp :B

so i have issues with capitalizing and sentence structure. would you prefer i write in text talk? i didnt claim to be amazing at writing skills, though i do have more of a brain than most my age. i can at least spell half the words i want to write.

I accept your surrender.

this just seems like a bunch of 'adults' scolding a teenger who genuinely wants to learn. i really dont know how you convert people if you treat them so horribly. i came here because i was genuinely curious if you could teach me anything.

The overarching theme of our conversation here is that to understand True Christianity™, you need to be well-versed in the Holy Bible. We can offer guidance, but to truly understand what we believe, you need to take some initiative and read the Bible.

not one of us is perfect, if we were perfect we would be god wouldnt we?

False. I have provided relevant Scripture, and I will provide this link for you again: True Christians are Perfect!

and why would your family pray for someone they dont even know and you only met on the internet?

Because I care. I think there is still hope for you, and it is my duty as a Christian to spread the Good News.

Luke 15:7
I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

[barton]

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that answers none of my questions. youre a terrible teacher.

What? You have received excellent instruction in this thread.

Even so, your perspective is way off...

When you face God, at your time of judgment, the only thing that will matter is whether or not you are Saved. Excuses won't help one bit. The onus is upon you to look after your own soul. So, rather than blame others for your incredible, obstinate ignorance, you need to focus on praying that God open your heart so you may receive His Word.

2nd Corinthians 5:10 "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things [done] in [his] body, according to that he hath done, whether [it be] good or bad."

No one else, no matter how good or bad they are at teaching, will be held to account for your sins. Either you are Saved or you are not. You need to do what it takes to get Saved!

This is a lesson that translates into other areas too. Clearly, you have a problem reading and writing English. Do you blame your school teachers for this? Don't you grasp that blame is useless? Just do what it takes to learn!

[handmaiden]

Re: Hello, I am a derp :B

are you jesus? how would you know other than to hide behind that book and its quote. such internet tough guys you all are.

Hey! We do not HIDE behind the Bible! We declare its actual, printed content for all the world to see. We get a lot of grief for doing that, but we feel strongly about our mission and ride out the written abuse. (Mind you, there are times when the abuse of the written word becomes far more exasperating than the abuse directed towards us. Then it becomes difficult to remain civilized, I will admit.)

And yes, I suppose that there is some validity to your little jab about us being internet tough guys, but you are standing up oh-so-bravely using the same medium, aren't you?

The defense that I offer on behalf of my brethren is the same that I extend on behalf of Bugs Bunny.

In adventure after adventure, Bugs is always minding his own business. Oftentimes, sitting in a comfortable stuffed chair down in his hole, munching contentedly on a carrot, when Elmer Fudd or Yosemite Sam or whoever comes looking for him and starts making trouble.

Bugs is never out there, roaming the 'hood, looking for a fight. They come after him. And it is hardly his fault that he has them totally outclassed in the intelligence department. Besides the more brute methods for dealing with his tormentors, i.e. heavy iron anvils, Bugs often employs the arts. Symphonies, opera, Shakespeare, Bugs pulls 'em all out in an effort to end the conflict that they started so he can get back to relaxing with a tasty carrot.

It wouldn't surprise me if Bugs Bunny has a deeper working knowledge of the Bible than most of the clumsy fools who stick their shotguns into this forum.

Animatedly Yours,

Handmaiden

[Theprinceamongmen]

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I'm not even going to get into your sentence structure. For starters...

God commissions me to reprove and rebuke those who deviate from True Doctrine and to exhort those who seek His face.

II Timothy 4:2-5
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

What you interpret as "rage" is in actuality an expression of my True Christian Love™ for you and the rest of the mealy-mouthed unsaved trash polluting our Holy Forum with your semi-literate garble.

Hebrews 12:5-8
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

And you are correct: I was born in sin, just like you. However, the difference between you and me is that I have been washed in the BLOOD of JESUS, and I am now a perfect True Christian™ who sins no more.

I John 1:7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

II Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

In fact, as a True Christian™, I cannot sin! Praise!

I John 3:6-9
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

You, on the other hand, continue to wallow in depredation; and you come to our private Christian forum for no other purpose than to mock and persecute Jesus' elect. In doing so, you are digging yourself a hole you will not be able to pull yourself out of unless you ask Jesus to enter you and fill you with His penetrating love. We are, in fact, blessed by your persecution.

Matthew 5:10-11
Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Friend, we truly want you to repent of your wicked ways and accept Jesus into your heart. We want you to join us in Heaven, but everything you have written here so far only indicates the distance you place between yourself and your Creator. Won't you set aside all your hatred and ask Jesus into your heart?

My family and I will keep you in our prayers.

so i have issues with capitalizing and sentence structure. would you prefer i write in text talk? i didnt claim to be amazing at writing skills, though i do have more of a brain than most my age. i can at least spell half the words i want to write.

this just seems like a bunch of 'adults' scolding a teenger who genuinely wants to learn. i really dont know how you convert people if you treat them so horribly. i came here because i was genuinely curious if you could teach me anything.

not one of us is perfect, if we were perfect we would be god wouldnt we?

and why would your family pray for someone they dont even know and you only met on the internet?