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  • #16
    Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

    Psalms 1:1-2

    As it clearly states, THE LAW OF THE LORD, not the law of the Lord and Mary.

    I realize the appeal of worshiping Mary, as a female, but I also realize that it is against God's word to do it. God is my father, God is my teacher, and God is my life. It'd make it easier on me being a female to worship her and have an easier set of rules upon me in the Catlick church but God didn't make this life easy because it is his test for admittance into the greatest of all places for a Christian; Heaven.

    2 Corinthians 4:16-18


    16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man wis renewed day by day. 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us ya far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; 18 while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

    Have faith, convert to the real saved, the Baptist Christians!

    God Bless and I pray for you to surrender yourself to Jesus Christ, Janine Walker

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    • #17
      Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

      Originally posted by Pastor Isaac Peters View Post
      Since it's a false faith that will lead you to hell, of course we want you to renounce it. Do you think we want you to suffer eternally? What kind of monsters do you take us to be?

      Would you care to back that up with Scripture? The only mention of a "Holy Father" in the KJV is the Father in Heaven:

      John 17:11: And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we [are].

      How do you know which parts of the Bible are the inerrant Word of God and which parts are something else? Also, God promised to preserve His words:

      Psalm 12:6-7: The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

      Isaiah 40:8: The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

      Matt. 24:35: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

      So which of the following do you believe?
      1. God preserved His Word, as He promised.
      2. God reneged on His promise to preserve His Word, in which case He is not loving.
      3. God couldn't preserve His Word, in which case He is a weakling.
      4. The Bible was never God's Word to begin with.
      5. There is no God.

      If it's any of 2-5, in what sense are you a Christian?
      I can start by suggestion that the story of creation could be regarded as inerrant. We are taught that the creation story is just that, a metaphorical representation on Gods glory.

      Also, And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matt 16:18)

      I don't understand your points 1-5 - Wasn't God's word Christ? Christ who will persevere forever?
      Matthew 10:34
      Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

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      • #18
        Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

        Originally posted by Janine Walker View Post
        Psalms 1:1-2

        As it clearly states, THE LAW OF THE LORD, not the law of the Lord and Mary.

        I realize the appeal of worshiping Mary, as a female, but I also realize that it is against God's word to do it. God is my father, God is my teacher, and God is my life. It'd make it easier on me being a female to worship her and have an easier set of rules upon me in the Catlick church but God didn't make this life easy because it is his test for admittance into the greatest of all places for a Christian; Heaven.

        2 Corinthians 4:16-18


        16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man wis renewed day by day. 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us ya far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; 18 while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

        Have faith, convert to the real saved, the Baptist Christians!

        God Bless and I pray for you to surrender yourself to Jesus Christ, Janine Walker

        Hi Janine, your post above actually makes the most sense to me, out of all that I have already read. It is also the least bellicose, thank you.

        While I respect your beliefs and faith, I have no intention of renouncing mine. As I mentioned, I like the scriptural discussion in this forum. I'm hoping to have many more with you in the future. That is, providing I don't have to convert to engage.
        Matthew 10:34
        Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

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        • #19
          Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

          Originally posted by Irish_Sinner View Post
          I can start by suggestion that the story of creation could be regarded as inerrant. We are taught that the creation story is just that, a metaphorical representation on Gods glory.

          Also, And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matt 16:18)

          I don't understand your points 1-5 - Wasn't God's word Christ? Christ who will persevere forever?
          Why do you people pray to Mary and the other dead Popes? It does not make a lick of sense. Jesus is the one you need to talk to. Mary is the mother of Jesus and that's all, just a female. Its almost like you think that Mary is your Joo lawyer, you do not need a mouthpiece to pray to Jesus.

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          • #20
            Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

            Originally posted by Irish_Sinner View Post
            I can start by suggestion that the story of creation could be regarded as inerrant. We are taught that the creation story is just that, a metaphorical representation on Gods glory.
            Where do you draw the line? Is the story of Noah and his arc metaphorical? How about Jonah and the fish? How about the virgin birth and the ressurection of Jesus? Are these metaphores as well? And if they aren't how do distinguish which parts of the Bible are metaphorical and which aren't? And how does the idea that parts of the Bible are metaphorical fit with the following Scripture?

            2 Peter 1:20-21
            Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost

            And why can't God who is perfect not express himself clearly without having people guessing the meaning to His Words?

            I don't understand your points 1-5 - Wasn't God's word Christ? Christ who will persevere forever?
            Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Not his Words. The Words are the Bible. If you don't believe the Bible is the inerrant Word of God then you must believe in one of option 2-5.

            Originally posted by Pastor Isaac Peters View Post
            So which of the following do you believe?
            1. God preserved His Word, as He promised.
            2. God reneged on His promise to preserve His Word, in which case He is not loving.
            3. God couldn't preserve His Word, in which case He is a weakling.
            4. The Bible was never God's Word to begin with.
            5. There is no God.
            To the atheists:

            To the false christians:

            Feel like pissing off God? Perhaps this will change your mind:

            Hosea 13:16
            Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

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            • #21
              Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

              Originally posted by Irish_Sinner View Post
              Also, And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matt 16:18)
              Yes, and therefore ... ? How does that prove that the current pope is another Holy Father, when Jesus already said who the Holy Father is?

              I don't understand your points 1-5 - Wasn't God's word Christ? Christ who will persevere forever?
              You do realize, of course, that in the verse from Matthew that I quoted, it was Christ talking. Under your reading, it would have made no sense for Him to say, "my words shall not pass away" instead of "I will not pass away."
              This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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              • #22
                Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

                Originally posted by Irish_Sinner View Post
                Hi Janine, your post above actually makes the most sense to me, out of all that I have already read. It is also the least bellicose, thank you.

                While I respect your beliefs and faith, I have no intention of renouncing mine. As I mentioned, I like the scriptural discussion in this forum. I'm hoping to have many more with you in the future. That is, providing I don't have to convert to engage.
                Thank you, I think?

                There are a few Cathlick priests that roam these forums.. so it is possible to engage in more conversing.

                Either way welcome and I hope these fine Christian warriors can help change your mind.

                Janine Walker

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                • #23
                  Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

                  Originally posted by Janine Walker View Post
                  Thank you, I think?

                  There are a few Cathlick priests that roam these forums.. so it is possible to engage in more conversing.

                  Either way welcome and I hope these fine Christian warriors can help change your mind.

                  Janine Walker
                  Thanks Janine.

                  Although a self professed catholic, I will admit to being somewhat lapsed. I've no wish to engage with Priests. The recent scandals within the catholic church have, for want of a better phrase, diluted my trust in priests, although I don't tar them all with the same brush, I still have grave misgivings.

                  Similarly, some of my earalier posts may have seemed that I'm some sort of sheep bastard, I'm not. I don't blindly follow. Similarly, the popes infallibility should be challenged and can be challenged.
                  Matthew 10:34
                  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

                    Originally posted by Irish_Sinner View Post
                    I have some concerns, as a Roman Catholic, am I welcome on these forums?

                    While I respect everyone's right to worship and religious freedoms, the vitriol and what I consider hogwash against the Roman Catholic church on some threads here, I see as an attack on my church.

                    I'm slightly concerned that if I profess my beliefs and traditions in discussion threads, then I may be on the end of a tongue lashing from some of the more conservative members of this forum. At the end of teh day do we not all worship the same God?
                    This is not the "hey I've got a question" forum. It's the introduction forum. That's where you tell us about yourself.

                    If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

                    If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

                    You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

                    Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.
                    Who Will Jesus Damn?

                    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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                    • #25
                      Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

                      Originally posted by Irish_Sinner View Post
                      I can start by suggestion that the story of creation could be regarded as inerrant. We are taught that the creation story is just that, a metaphorical representation on Gods glory.
                      I've no wish to engage with Priests. The recent scandals within the catholic church have, for want of a better phrase, diluted my trust in priests, although I don't tar them all with the same brush, I still have grave misgivings.
                      The perverts who taught you the nonsense you are currently spouting were lying about the Bible just as much as the lied about not being paedos. Deal with it, paddy.
                      I don't understand your points 1-5 - Wasn't God's word Christ? Christ who will persevere forever?
                      I think the words in the Bible that God wrote count as words.
                      O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                      God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

                        Originally posted by James Hutchins
                        Well mick, are you sure you were not just too drunk to remember?
                        Hi again Hick,

                        No I wasn't too drnk to remember. I've only started drinking about 2 years ago. And when I do it's only red wine.
                        Matthew 10:34
                        Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

                          Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                          The perverts who taught you the nonsense you are currently spouting were lying about the Bible just as much as the lied about not being paedos. Deal with it, paddy.

                          I think the words in the Bible that God wrote count as words.
                          Thanks for that Brother T.

                          Do you really think everything they taught me was a lie?

                          Love thy neighbour, Ever lasting life, Hell for Sinners, Heaven for the righteous. (I do believe in Heaven and Hell, inspite of the infraction I received). Although I'm unsure about the concept of purgatory - I don't think there should be any middle ground.

                          True there were/are some very evil Peado priests and the sooner the Catholic church roots them out the better, but it has taken an international scandal to allow this to happen. There is not a Parish in Ireland that has been untouched (excuse the pun) by a Peado priest and this was because rather than give them up to the authorities, the church and in some instances the Irish state decided to move the problem along elsewhere and the same priests abused over and over again.
                          Matthew 10:34
                          Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

                            Do you were your kilt when you go to the pub to get drunk

                            Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
                            Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
                            Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
                            Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
                            Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
                            Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

                              Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
                              Do you were your kilt when you go to the pub to get drunk

                              Most Irish people don't wear Kilt's. That's more a Scottish tradition -a different country.

                              I don't get drunk.

                              Thanks for the attempted racial slur.
                              Matthew 10:34
                              Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Hi all, Newbie question.

                                Originally posted by Irish_Sinner View Post
                                Most Irish people don't wear Kilt's. That's more a Scottish tradition -a different country.

                                I don't get drunk.

                                Thanks for the attempted racial slur.
                                You do not know your own country. Irish people do where kilts.


                                The Irish Kilt

                                The Irish Kilt is quite different to its Scottish cousin, in that it is normally made from cloth that is one solid colour. Saffron and green being the most widely used.

                                It is virtually undisputed that this particular kilt has its origins in the Scottish Highlands, and was almost certainly introduced to Ireland by the British armed forces.

                                Solid coloured versions were often seen in the 19th and early 20th centuries, especially at political gatherings and music events, being used as a symbol of Gaelic nationalism.

                                Below is a photo very kindly sent to me by a retired Royal Irish Ranger, which shows off his Saffron kilt and the Prince Charlie jacket, which he had custom made for evening wear


                                ...
                                Irish Kilt
                                Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
                                Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
                                Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
                                Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
                                Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
                                Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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