Question?

[cvlrymedic]

First of all, I am a christian, Jesus Christ is the lord my savior who has risen once and will rise again. Second, you can not tell me that I am not a christian because you do not know what I feel in my heart. Only the lord knows how I feel and he is truly the only one. Now that we have that established, I have been reading thread after thread and your online community is very very judging, how does your judging ideology fit in with Matthew 7:1-6? Also, do any of you eat pork?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Question?

First of all, I am a christian, Jesus Christ is the lord my savior who has risen once and will rise again. Second, you can not tell me that I am not a christian because you do not know what I feel in my heart. Only the lord knows how I feel and he is truly the only one. Now that we have that established, I have been reading thread after thread and your online community is very very judging, how does your judging ideology fit in with Matthew 7:1-6? Also, do any of you eat pork?

It matters not a bit what you feel in your heart. What matters if you follow Gods Word and how He feels about YOU. Do not be so self centered, it is not attractive.

The Bible tells us that if we have been judged and repented, we are to judge others for Him.
Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1st Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1st Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

1st Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
1st Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1st Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
1st Corinthians 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
1st Corinthians 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
1st Corinthians 6:6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
(Notice in particular 6:5 where Paul urges us to Judge fellow "brethren" rather than leaving it up to civil authorities.)

2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2nd Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2nd Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2nd Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.


I have some more if you want it.

[cvlrymedic]

Re: Question?

First of all, I am a christian, Jesus Christ is the lord my savior who has risen once and will rise again. Second, you can not tell me that I am not a christian because you do not know what I feel in my heart. Only the lord knows how I feel and he is truly the only one. Now that we have that established, I have been reading thread after thread and your online community is very very judging, how does your judging ideology fit in with Matthew 7:1-6? Also, do any of you eat pork?

Felicty before you immediately give me an infraction for asking questions in order to strengthen my faith in Christ (ultimate goal here right?) Please cite from my original post how I was being a judgmental brat. By the way, you all can not determine wether or not I am saved because that is between the lord and I and calling me trash isn't very christian like.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Question?

Felicty before you immediately give me an infraction for asking questions in order to strengthen my faith in Christ (ultimate goal here right?) Please cite from my original post how I was being a judgmental brat. By the way, you all can not determine wether or not I am saved because that is between the lord and I and calling me trash isn't very christian like.

We know you're not saved because you're whining like an atheist. Jesus told us that Christians would be persecuted, yet you imagine that you are being persecuted and shouldn't be - an exception to Jesus' Holy Word, eh?

That might be blasphemy; it's certainly pride.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Question?

Interesting how you ignored the scripture I provided.

Tell me, whay do you hate His Word(c)?

[cvlrymedic]

Re: Question?

Interesting how you ignored the scripture I provided.

Tell me, whay do you hate His Word©?

And you ignore the gospel, the word of the Lord.

Matthew 7:1-5
1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Luke 6:37-42
37 “Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. 38 Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
39 He also told them this parable: “Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit? 40 The student is not above the teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like their teacher.

41 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 42 How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Luke 12:57
57 “Why don’t you judge for yourselves what is right?

And you never answered me about eating pork

[Levi Jones]

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And you ignore the gospel, the word of the Lord.

Matthew 7:1-5
1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.


Luke 6:37-42
37 “Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. 38 Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
39 He also told them this parable: “Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit? 40 The student is not above the teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like their teacher.

41 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 42 How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Hypocritical judgment. Yes exactly. Do you know what hypocritical judgment is? It would be like me having an affair telling you not to have one.

Luke 12:57
57 “Why don’t you judge for yourselves what is right?

That is talking about interpreting the last days and it is also used to occasionally defend the principle of limited suffering.

54And he said also to the people, When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is.
55And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass.
56Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?
57Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?
58When thou goest with thine adversary to the magistrate, as thou art in the way, give diligence that thou mayest be delivered from him; lest he hale thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and the officer cast thee into prison.
59I tell thee, thou shalt not depart thence, till thou hast paid the very last mite.

In other words, you can possibly be let out of hell.

Here's some more stuff about judgment and that it's alright.

2 Timothy 4:1-5 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

And you never answered me about eating pork

Dietary laws were specifically done away with in the New Testament.
Acts 10:10-15 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

And then again Dr. Luke tells this exact same story in the next chapter. He must have thought it was pretty important.

Acts 11:6-9 Upon the which when I had fastened mine eyes, I considered, and saw fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat.
But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth.
But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Question?

First of all, I am a christian, Jesus Christ is the lord my savior who has risen once and will rise again. Second, you can not tell me that I am not a christian because you do not know what I feel in my heart. Only the lord knows how I feel and he is truly the only one. Now that we have that established, I have been reading thread after thread and your online community is very very judging, how does your judging ideology fit in with Matthew 7:1-6? Also, do any of you eat pork?

As has been repeatedly pointed out, Matthew 7:1-6 is a warning against hypocritical judgment, not a commandment not to judge.

I'm sorry that you have such poor reading comprehension. I'm also sorry that you are unable to apply your very own chosen Scripture to your own first post, in which you attempt to find fault in Landover's True Christians(tm) when you are clearly a sinner yourself. Hypocrite.

I can also see that you have only read the Gospels, and consider them to be the only part of GOD'S WORD that matters. (See, we call the Bible GOD'S WORD because ALL of it is . . . well, GOD'S WORD. It's ALL important.)

Tell me, since you're only a fan of the Gospels, what do you think of Jesus' command to the adulterous woman?

After her accusers left without stoning her, what did He say?

"Go, and try to keep your whore legs closed this time."

"Go, and only commit little sins."

"Go, and SIN NO MORE."

Yes, He said to SIN NO MORE. Not to sin a little. Not to avoid committing certain sins. SIN NO MORE.

Your thoughts?