[Janine Walker]

Re: Road to come enlightened

Hello,

As you can see i can speak pretty good english already. I've now studied two years of english.

Are you saying that i have to wait till i learn perfect english without any misunderstandings? Or is this the sign i'm not chosen by god?

The language which was taught for me, is whole different language than english. We don't even pronounce alphabeticals the same way than you. Are you saying, or is God saying to me that if i can't translate english to finnish from word to word, i'm not good enough for Jesus Christ and all mighty God?

I really would like to get answer from some more experienced son of god.

I'm saying learning a new language takes patience and like the Bible said, you should be patient and just keep doing what you're doing. You will understand the Bible word for word eventually if you stick at it and are not hasty and impatient about it.

Kneeling before Jesus Christ and asking for forgiveness is a sincere act, one that takes time and is a journey through life, not a goal that is achieved. There are tons of people who have fallen back into the hands of the Devil and have given up because of being sloths or otherwise.

If you are patient with the Word of God and read it everyday and look up word for word the ones you do not understand, then follow it word for word until the day you die, I promise you great things.. as does Jesus Christ.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Road to come enlightened

You don't have to understand the King James Bible yourself, since you can have a pastor instruct you correctly on what God commands in simpler language. If you ever have any questions regarding what a verse means, just ask myself or one of the other pastors here and we'll gladly help you out. However, that doesn't give you license to just give up on learning English and reading the Bible. In fact, you should study every day...the less I have to help you with, the better. Both for my sake and yours.

[Elijah71]

Re: Road to come enlightened

Thanks Jim for your effort to help me out in this difficult situation on the way to become true christian.

I already took a huge step one year ago when i moved to Ireland so i'm able to learn and speak better english. I had no money to travel United States so this was my only way to learn english faster way and so on to start reading King James bible from word to word.

I just know somehow, that i must learn proper english before i can understand everything. What i'm asking now, is that you can help me with this language barrier sin, what God did lay on me when i was born.

I'm not asking to blame me because i was born in wrong country. I'm not asking to look at me like filthy creature of the God. I'm asking you to take me as equal, even if God didn't give me the gift of true language.

You know my background, but you see as well that im more than eager to become true christian. I don't want to hurry, but i have feeling that if I can serve God longer in this filthy world with real information of god. I feel i'm doing sin all the time when my mind is thinking unclean. I do not want to practice sin, i want to live right, just the way god wanted us to live when we are stuck in this bad world which is full of false religions.

I never accepted doctrines of other religions. That's why i'm still searching real god religion and that's why i'm here.

That's why i'm asking for you all true christians to teach me this believe what you already learned. I have better undestanding when i read english. I have still some difficulties to understand everything if i'm talking face to face. I feel i can learn even more when someone like you can teach me. I know you must have good understaning of King James bible and you are able to explain everything.

God is my navigator

Sincerely

-Elijah

[Felicity]

Re: Road to come enlightened

@Elijah71 Why don't you pray to Jesus for better English skills?

[Elijah71]

Re: Road to come enlightened

Dear Felicity,

I'm praying every night to help me find the right way.

[Simonajf]

Re: Road to come enlightened

I would like to clear one thing up... Is it your wish to follow the will of God as written in the Bible to the absolute letter, with no interpretations, i.e everything the people here are exemplifying?

[Elijah71]

Re: Road to come enlightened

I want to follow the god correcly, but because of my background, my mind is telling that something is not right. My mind doesn't find any sense why we have to example hate and judge all non-believers to hell, even if they are defending us and let believers decide by themselves if they want to believe or not.

I though the God will judge us when the day will come.

Why i'm here, i have no idea. I just believe in Jesus Christ and the God above, who knows what is wrong or what is right. No one actually never told me that killing people is wrong. At one point i just knew it.

[Janine Walker]

Re: Road to come enlightened

I would like to clear one thing up... Is it your wish to follow the will of God as written in the Bible to the absolute letter, with no interpretations, i.e everything the people here are exemplifying?

I implore you to explore the door to the for-um. Leave now!

[Simonajf]

Re: Road to come enlightened

I want to follow the god correcly, but because of my background, my mind is telling that something is not right. My mind doesn't find any sense why we have to example hate and judge all non-believers to hell, even if they are defending us and let believers decide by themselves if they want to believe or not.

I though the God will judge us when the day will come.

Why i'm here, i have no idea. I just believe in Jesus Christ and the God above, who knows what is wrong or what is right. No one actually never told me that killing people is wrong. At one point i just knew it.

Everyone here is doing exactly as the bible tell them, no less. If you don't believe killing people for wrongs as in the bible then your beliefs are not in line with those of this church.

I will finish what I started explaining: to hate and judge people who are not like them such as me and you is a part of their belief system, to become their ideal is to lose all compassion for unsaved (preaching peace or not) such as myself. If you, like me, do not believe in this, then your choices are either to leave, or to change.

There are many other churches offering both God and the same peaceful reasoning as you. Your search doesn't have to stop here.

[Lycia The Repentant]

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I want to follow the god correcly, but because of my background, my mind is telling that something is not right. My mind doesn't find any sense why we have to example hate and judge all non-believers to hell, even if they are defending us and let believers decide by themselves if they want to believe or not.

Elijah, friend, your doubt is a direct result of Satan trying to keep you from God's Word. It's always hard for somebody to accept the full weight of God's teachings at first.

"And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not." John 8:45

As True Christians(tm), we are commanded to judge others for their wickedness (Leviticus 19:15, Psalm 37:30, Proverbs 31:9 and others). We are also commanded to spread the gospel (Matthew 28:19-20), but if people don't listen to us, we shouldn't waste our time on them.

"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet." Matthew 10:14

I though the God will judge us when the day will come.

Indeed, God will judge us during the Great Tribulation.

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." Revelation 20:12

And those vile sinners, who have rejected the gospel and kept offending God with their wicked ways, will be cast into the lake of fire to burn eternally.

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Revelation 21:8

Of course, we don't want that to happen to people, which is why we try so hard to get them to stop their wickedness. Not many people do, however.

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matthew 7:13-14

Why i'm here, i have no idea. I just believe in Jesus Christ and the God above, who knows what is wrong or what is right. No one actually never told me that killing people is wrong. At one point i just knew it.

You're here because Jesus loves you, Elijah. He loves you enough to have led you here to give you a chance to repent of your sins and avoid infinite torment for all eternity.

God doesn't mind killing, so long as its being done to serve His work and follows all secular laws (Romans 13:1-4). Why else would He command us to kill if He didn't think those groups of people were abominations?

"And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel." Deuteronomy 17:12

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Leviticus 20:13

"For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him." Leviticus 20:9

"And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death." Leviticus 20:10

"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death." Exodus 31:12-15

In fact, we're even cursed if we don't work towards a world where we can kill people for not following these (and many other) Biblical commandments.

"Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood." Jeremiah 48:10

Now, did I answer all of your questions for you? Are you ready to accept Jesus yet, friend?

[Elijah71]

Re: Road to come enlightened

Dear Lucia,

In God i trust, but i can't trust human being.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: Road to come enlightened

Dear Lucia,

In God i trust, but i can't trust human being.

Elijah,

Everything I posted came straight out of the Holy Bible. If you cannot trust that scripture than you simply cannot trust God, friend.

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" Galatians 4:16

I am praying the Lord sees fit to help you understand His message.

Your's in Christ,

Lycia

[Elijah71]

Re: Road to come enlightened

Thanks Lucia for these prayers. I will pray as well that god give me right direction and help you all being successfull on your way to salvation.

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" Galatians 4:16

I would like to know, for who Galatians told that? To human being who didn't accept his way of believe, or to human being who accepted his way of believe?

[Simonajf]

Re: Road to come enlightened

Elijah, I have one last thing to say.

I want you to know, that if you think hating and insulting people like me is the right thing to do, then this is the place for you. But I can see this is not the place for you, as you have not once insulted me. You are not the same person as these people, and you don't have to be to live a happy life. The are so many more way to look at a book like the Bible and what is written on the actions of God. I agree with you, trust in the God you have come to know and in your own actions, not those of here.

This is the last thing I have to say to you in this forum. If you want to, you can contact me.

[Janine Walker]

Re: Road to come enlightened

Everyone here is doing exactly as the bible tell them, no less. If you don't believe killing people for wrongs as in the bible then your beliefs are not in line with those of this church.

I will finish what I started explaining: to hate and judge people who are not like them such as me and you is a part of their belief system, to become their ideal is to lose all compassion for unsaved (preaching peace or not) such as myself. If you, like me, do not believe in this, then your choices are either to leave, or to change.

There are many other churches offering both God and the same peaceful reasoning as you. Your search doesn't have to stop here.

There are many churches offering an easy way to Salvation but unfortunately there is no easy way.

John 3:3
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

You must be reborn again as a CHRISTIAN.

2 Corinthians 11:4
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Do not be fooled by false Christians! Don't be fooled of Mary Worshiper's version of Jesus or any other false Christian religion!

John 10:1, 9
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.


Don't think that the easy way into Heaven exists, you are a thief or a robber if you think you can do that.

9I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture


Jesus is the only way to Heaven.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Satan has many Christian churches and I'd be very cautious of these "new-age Christians."

A list of these churches would include:

Islam
Protestantism
Judaism
Buddhism
Hinduism
Sikhism
Taoism
Esotericism
Anything that isn't Baptist


1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

That refers to Muslims and any other faith that is not ours.



Simon, it's really horrible what you're doing to people. You preach against the Bible which you have not read? I'm confused as to how people like you exist, you deny something without even exploring it and then have this circular logic that goes like this:

The Bible is fiction because I say so!

Why is it fiction? Because God doesn't exist!

Why doesn't God exist? Because evil horrible people kill people everyday!

Why does that mean God doesn't exist? Because the Bible says God loves EVERYONE!!!!!!1!

Where does it say that? Well, I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T READ IT BECAUSE IT'S FICTION

Unfortunately, God doesn't love everyone and I think before you keep spreading lies about Our Savior and Our Creator, you should read His Word first.

Have you ever tried talking to a Christian about your issues? Maybe one of our pastors could have a private message conversation with you or a real time conversation. I'd be more than willing to do both but obviously a pastor or reverend is a lot more qualified.

I hope you take me up on that offer, I really do for your sake.

God bless, Janine Walker