[Problem of Evil]

Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

Once again, search function, use it.

Nobody at Landover will tell you that God is "perfectly good" by any human standard when He acknowledges -- nay, boasts -- that He Himself creates evil.

You're not particularly bright, are you?

Your "logic" fails because you assume we concur with your basic premise, an "all-good-by-fluffy-bunny-human-standards" God.

Your pathetic little challenge may work on false Christians who ignore the Bible for their fairy tales of a god that loves everyone they love and hate everyone they hate, but it won't work on anyone who actually follows the Bible.

Try reading it sometime, before assuming that ancient Greek philosophers know diddly about God.

Please drop the Ad Hominems. They're not going to work.

So the premise that God is not perfectly good is accepted among here? Good to know which type of unquestioning Christian site you all are (in case you were wondering, you're one of the worsts - Bible literalists).

I have a question, assuming you don't hit me with Lycia's "Because he's God!!!" argument. Why follow the word of a malevolent God? And yes, God is malevolent. For any who creates evil is by definition, malevolent. Because he's in charge? Because you will be sent to hell if you don't?

Forgive me if I don't wish to follow the commands of one who strong arms his creations with threats of eternal damnation if they don't bend to his often malevolent will.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

Because he's in charge? Because you will be sent to hell if you don't?

Yes

Forgive me if I don't wish to follow the commands of one who strong arms his creations with threats of eternal damnation if they don't bend to his often malevolent will.

I forgive you, but He won't.

[Godindisguise]

Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

Bye bye.

I don't understand?

[Zechariah Smyth]

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Please drop the Ad Hominems. They're not going to work.

So the premise that God is not perfectly good is accepted among here? Good to know which type of unquestioning Christian site you all are (in case you were wondering, you're one of the worsts - Bible literalists).

I have a question, assuming you don't hit me with Lycia's "Because he's God!!!" argument. Why follow the word of a malevolent God? And yes, God is malevolent. For any who creates evil is by definition, malevolent. Because he's in charge? Because you will be sent to hell if you don't?

Forgive me if I don't wish to follow the commands of one who strong arms his creations with threats of eternal damnation if they don't bend to his often malevolent will.

Let's see: God created everything, and in return He simply wants people to exalt him.

Is that too much to ask for? Would you rather he let in every Abdullah and Finn and nigra simply because they question His morality?



(Psalms 106:1) "Praise ye the LORD. O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever."

YiC,

Z. Smyth

[Problem of Evil]

Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

Yes



I forgive you, but He won't.

Hmm...

So I can see you all have no issue following the commands of one who often does evil things since it is he who decides whether you burn in Hell or not.

Tell me, the Bible is the word of God, correct? And the word of God is always the truth, correct? Then answer me some of these contradictions in the Bible I have never been able to understand. Keep in mind I believe you all to be Bible literalists and, thus, don't take things figuratively or metaphorically. Also, for the sake of logic, please keep your replies consistent with one another.

LEV 11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
LEV 11:14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
LEV 11:15 Every raven after his kind;
LEV 11:16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
LEV 11:17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
LEV 11:18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
LEV 11:19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

Bats are not birds. They are mammals.

"PSA 58:8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun."

Snails do not melt.

JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing. JOB 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.


Earth is not supported by anything. It revolves around the sun in space.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

Bats are not birds. They are mammals.

Says who? Scientists? If God says bats are birds, then that's what they are.

Snails do not melt.

Says who? Scientists? If God says snails can melt, then that's what they can do.

Earth is not supported by anything. It revolves around the sun in space.

Says who? Scientists? If God says the Earth hangs on nothing and is supported by foundations, then that's how it is.

"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen." 1 Timothy 6:20

It's simple. If science contradicts God, than science MUST be wrong. There's nothing contradictory about that!

[Zechariah Smyth]

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Hmm...

So I can see you all have no issue following the commands of one who often does evil things since it is he who decides whether you burn in Hell or not.

CORRECT! There's hope for you yet, boy!

Tell me, the Bible is the word of God, correct? And the word of God is always the truth, correct? Then answer me some of these contradictions in the Bible I have never been able to understand. Keep in mind I believe you all to be Bible literalists and, thus, don't take things figuratively or metaphorically. Also, for the sake of logic, please keep your replies consistent with one another.

LEV 11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
LEV 11:14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
LEV 11:15 Every raven after his kind;
LEV 11:16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
LEV 11:17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
LEV 11:18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
LEV 11:19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

Bats are not birds. They are mammals.

By the narrow definition that secular scientists use, bats could be construed as mammals by the simple-minded, but in the grand scheme of things (a grand scheme that God created, by the way) they are considered birds: they fly, they have wings, and they have lovely singing voices.

"PSA 58:8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun."

Snails do not melt.

Get a snail and pour salt on it...report back with your findings.

(God created salt, too.)

JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing. JOB 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.


Earth is not supported by anything. It revolves around the sun in space.

Have you been in "space" ? Have you seen the Earth from the Sun? Who would you rather believe, some "scientists" that change their story every few years, or a Book that BILLIONS follow and that has been around for centuries?

YiC,

Z. Smyth

[Problem of Evil]

Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

So bats lay eggs?

Snails do not melt. They do not melt. When snails die they do not melt. Keep a snail in a a cage as a pet. In its entire existence it will never melt.

"Says who? Scientists? If God says the Earth hangs on nothing and is supported by foundations, then that's how it is."

Wow. Explain to me how the moon revolves around that which is flat and hangs? Explain to me how their is photos of the Earth in space not hanging and not flat. If the earth was flat there would be an end in which you would fall of. Explain to those who have circumnavigated the Earth that it is flat and they should have fallen off.

The Earth revolves around the sun. It is not fixed. This is why the stars move. This is why the Earth spins. If the Earth did not move you would not have day and night. Do you doubt that the Earth spins and revolves?

[Born Again Bob]

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Snails do not melt. They do not melt. When snails die they do not melt. Keep a snail in a a cage as a pet. In its entire existence it will never melt.

Dear Friend,

Isn't it the case that any solid will become a liquid at a high enough temperature?

Yours in Him,
BAB

[AFRICAN JEDI]

Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

I refuse to listen to someone who piffleed men for a living. What a dirty woman. No amount of repenting will take the label of T.J. Hooker off your name.

[Problem of Evil]

Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

Also, to the retard who says snail melt from salt.. they do not. They dehydrate. Big difference. Melting is the transformation of solid to liquid. Dehydration is not melting.

"Isn't it the case that any solid will become a liquid at a high enough temperature?

No, it is not. Some melt, some char, and some burn. Snails burn. The water in them evaporates. Their skin burns. Their shells, they might melt. But by that time, it isn't considered a snail, is it?


I'm guessing the pictures of Earth will easily be dismissed as falsified photos, correct? You can prove to yourself the Earth revolved around the sun with this easy experiment!

http://www.galeschools.com/sci_try/foucault.htm

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

I refuse to listen to someone who piffleed men for a living. What a dirty woman. No amount of repenting will take the label of T.J. Hooker off your name.

Thank you for your persecution! I love being reminded I'm blessed.

"Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you." Matthew 5:10-12

I can't wait to get to Heaven. Did you know that the Bible even specifically states that repentant harlots will be there?

"Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

Oh, yes! I can't wait to sit at the right hand of Jesus and laugh at you and all other unrepentant sinners as you burn eternally!

"He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision." Psalm 2:4

Of course, all that unpleasantness on your end can be avoided if you apologize for your hateful comment, then accept Jesus and follow all of His commandments. Of course, I don't care. Whatever you decide to do, I can't wait either way!

[Problem of Evil]

Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

Wait I'm confused. Am I damned to eternal hellfire or am I still open to salvation? I thought those who sinned went to hell?

Lycia, I see that you are an ex-prostitute. Tell me, why did you stop? You have a pretty, albeit somewhat creepy, face and prostitutes do not go to hell. Also, I question your usertitle: "Ex-prostitute on her knees for the Lord"
It's a bit of a double-entendre.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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Wait I'm confused. Am I damned to eternal hellfire or am I still open to salvation? I thought those who sinned went to hell?

Lycia, I see that you are an ex-prostitute. Tell me, why did you stop? You have a pretty, albeit somewhat creepy, face and prostitutes do not go to hell. Also, I question your usertitle: " Ex-prostitute on her knees for the Lord"
It's a bit of a double-entendre.

How so? She is on her knees for God...what are you reading into it?

YiC,

Z. Smyth

P.S. I suggest that you apologize for calling me "retard" immediately, and it had better be sincere.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: Problem of Evil: Please Refute

Wait I'm confused. Am I damned to eternal hellfire or am I still open to salvation? I thought those who sinned went to hell?

What's not to get? The power of the blood of Christ can wash away the sins of anybody, and God will forgive all manner of trespasses (except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit). That's kind of the whole point of Christianity.

"Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come." Matthew 12:31-32

Lycia, I see that you are an ex-prostitute. Tell me, why did you stop? You have a pretty, albeit somewhat creepy, face and prostitutes do not go to hell. Also, I question your usertitle: "Ex-prostitute on her knees for the Lord"
It's a bit of a double-entendre.

Repentant prostitutes do not go to Hell, provided they accept Jesus and follow all of His commandments. That's why I stopped being a prostitute (even though, according to you I have a pretty, albeit creepy, face).

And what's wrong with my title? I get on my knees to pray every day, rather than getting on my knees for all the wrong reasons. What's wrong with that?