Hello!

[PurposeToMelody]

Hey everyone I'm a christian!


I play in a Metalcore band

I speak in tongues

I enjoy Bill Johnson and Chuck Missler books

I LOVE the amplified and the message bible (super easy reads)

Jesus loves everyone...even homo's!

I think thats it! Love you all

Nice to meet you all!


Also, Esther was an amazing bible character!

[Rich_Paulson]

Re: Hello!

i heartily disagree with almost everything you just said. but Christ says to love you so i do. then again this cult says i should hate you so maybe i'll do that instead..


JESUS!!!!!!!!!

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Hello!

Hey everyone I'm a christian!

No you aren't.

I play in a Metalcore band

You're a 30 something year old man still playing rock star. It's sad really.

I speak in tongues

Some foul double entendre referring to cunnilingus, no doubt.

I enjoy Bill Johnson and Chuck Missler books

You're going to have to tell me the chapter and verse they wrote in the Bible, because I have never heard such phallic names in my life!

I LOVE the amplified and the message bible (super easy reads)

Of course you do, because you're an idiot. The Message is the worst ever piece of fiction ever created. It has nothing to do with what the Bible actually says. It's all about its "message" to its teen readers. It's truly sick and insidious.

Jesus loves everyone...even homo's!

If you read The Message, you might get that impression.

1Corinthians 6:9

It gives me verses nine through eleven as a default.

9-11Don't you realize that this is not the way to live? Unjust people who don't care about God will not be joining in his kingdom. Those who use and abuse each other, use and abuse sex, use and abuse the earth and everything in it, don't qualify as citizens in God's kingdom. A number of you know from experience what I'm talking about, for not so long ago you were on that list. Since then, you've been cleaned up and given a fresh start by Jesus, our Master, our Messiah, and by our God present in us, the Spirit.

Read the literal translation of the Greek

Young's Literal Translation.

9have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites,

Seriously, how can you have fallen so far from what the Bible actually says and still call yourself a Christian anymore? At what point do you actually believe what the Bible says?

I'm not even telling you to read the King James. You could read the English Standard version and get almost as true of an account.

Just sit down and read a real Bible and it will make you not such a fag coddler.

[PurposeToMelody]

Re: Hello!

No you aren't.



You're a 30 something year old man still playing rock star. It's sad really.



Some foul double entendre referring to cunnilingus, no doubt.



You're going to have to tell me the chapter and verse they wrote in the Bible, because I have never heard such phallic names in my life!



Of course you do, because you're an idiot. The Message is the worst ever piece of fiction ever created. It has nothing to do with what the Bible actually says. It's all about its "message" to its teen readers. It's truly sick and insidious.


If you read The Message, you might get that impression.

1Corinthians 6:9

It gives me verses nine through eleven as a default.

9-11Don't you realize that this is not the way to live? Unjust people who don't care about God will not be joining in his kingdom. Those who use and abuse each other, use and abuse sex, use and abuse the earth and everything in it, don't qualify as citizens in God's kingdom. A number of you know from experience what I'm talking about, for not so long ago you were on that list. Since then, you've been cleaned up and given a fresh start by Jesus, our Master, our Messiah, and by our God present in us, the Spirit.

Read the literal translation of the Greek

Young's Literal Translation.

9have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites,

Seriously, how can you have fallen so far from what the Bible actually says and still call yourself a Christian anymore? At what point do you actually believe what the Bible says?

I'm not even telling you to read the King James. You could read the English Standard version and get almost as true of an account.

Just sit down and read a real Bible and it will make you not such a fag coddler.


I think thats it! Love you all

Nice to meet you all!


Also, Esther was an amazing bible character!

Excuse me sir? What right do you have to say that I'm not a Christian? Also, what do you know about my personal life? I'm not even 25 and I've played with some of the biggest names in music and at 2 of the biggest Christian music fests in the WORLD. I'd also like to say that if you read YOUR bible you'd see that speaking in tongues is something JESUS left for us. I enjoy Bill Johnson and Chuck Missler for their commentary, it is very clear and straightforward, check it out fool. I read NKJV and the English standard also, I'm sorry that you feel the way you do about he message. Once again sir, you have NO right to say I'm not a Christian, Jesus does love everyone, if you read the new testament it seems to say that we are supposed to love everyone. hate sin. not the sinner.


Also, for future reference, maybe you should try and get to know someone before you bash them for no reason....just a suggestion though.

[Alphonse Alban]

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What right do you have to say that I'm not a Christian?

If you don't follow the entire Bible, you are not a Christian. You are a heathen.

I've played with some of the biggest names in music

Rock band was multi million selling game.

speaking in tongues is something JESUS left for us.

Speaking in tongues means you are able to speak language you have not known before. Meaning you could go and speak to Eskimos and convert them. That is speaking in toungues, not some random gibberish spewing act.

[MisterM]

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I read NKJV and the English standard also, I'm sorry that you feel the way you do about he message. Once again sir, you have NO right to say I'm not a Christian,

You don't even read the only True Bible, KJV 1611, you cannot be Christian.

[Two-Dollar Bill]

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I've played with some of the biggest names in music...

Drop some names or drop to your knees and start praying that He doesn't smite you for being a liar. (Also, and I think this reverts back to your issue about humility, why do you seem to want to impress us even though you also want to disrespect us?)

[Cranky Old Man]

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Excuse me sir?

No, we will not excuse you.

What right do you have to say that I'm not a Christian?

Here on God's favorite forum we call an idiot an idiot, a turd a turd and a liar a liar. You sir are clearly not a Christian. Why? Because you never even bothered to read the entire Holy Bible. You read 2-3 pages of it max. Your false claim of being a Christian is a direct insult to God. You will burn in Hell for all eternity for being too lazy to read the entire Bible.

if you read the new testament it seems to say that we are supposed to love everyone. hate sin. not the sinner.

The Bible doesn't "seem" to say anything. The Bible is crystal clear and 100% accurate. And it does not say we should love everyone!

Proverbs 6:16-19 "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."

So not only does God hate sinners. God hates YOU for lying on His behalf!

[Living_Water]

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Excuse me sir? What right do you have to say that I'm not a Christian?

He's a Pastor and you're unsaved trash. That's about it.

check it out fool.

If you'd be a christian man you'd respect your elderly. I can see that is not the case, heathen.

Jesus does love everyone, if you read the new testament it seems to say that we are supposed to love everyone. hate sin. not the sinner.

I can see you've done some selective reading. Do often just read the latter part of the book? You sound like you mistake God for some cuddly teddy bear.

Psalm 5:4-6
For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.

The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

Also, for future reference, maybe you should try and get to know someone before you bash them for no reason....just a suggestion though.

You come here and start preaching a Pastor about Bible? Do you honestly think you have a chance to win?

Don't... Just a suggestion though.

[PurposeToMelody]

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names, seriously? I'll give you the short list.

Skillet
Barlow Girl
Ken Mary (drummer for Alice Cooper)
Pillar
Disciple


As for the "selective reading" bit, I've read the Bible cover to cover...If you read, basically what Jesus says is that by him dying on the cross for our sins we are saved through GRACE, his LOVE for us. He made the Old Test law irrelevant showing that we cannot be as good as him.

How do you know that I'm not a pastor? you still know nothing about me yet you accuse me of things you are not even sure on. You say you all work based on "fact" and fact only, so maybe you should get your "facts" straight before

I'd also like to say something on your bit on Proverbs 6:16-19. Got "hates" (many translations use "detests") those THINGS, not those people. because darn it, if he hated those things, he certainly hates you all. You are the most arrogant people I have ever had the displeasure of coming in contact with.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hello!

names, seriously? I'll give you the short list.

Skillet
Barlow Girl
Ken Mary (drummer for Alice Cooper)
Pillar
Disciple

Never heard of 'em.

As for the "selective reading" bit, I've read the Bible cover to cover...If you read, basically what Jesus says is that by him dying on the cross for our sins we are saved through GRACE, his LOVE for us. He made the Old Test law irrelevant showing that we cannot be as good as him.

Baloney.

( Matthew 5:17-19) "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

How do you know that I'm not a pastor? you still know nothing about me yet you accuse me of things you are not even sure on. You say you all work based on "fact" and fact only, so maybe you should get your "facts" straight before

If you are a pastor you are the worst one on earth. You think Jesus canceled the Old Testament!

I'd also like to say something on your bit on Proverbs 6:16-19. Got "hates" (many translations use "detests") those THINGS, not those people. because darn it, if he hated those things, he certainly hates you all. You are the most arrogant people I have ever had the displeasure of coming in contact with.

(1 John 3:13) "Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you."



YiC,

Z. Smyth

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Hello!

check it out fool....

Once again sir, you have NO right to say I'm not a Christian,

I think you need you need to beg Jesus for forgiveness right now. If the rapture were to come at this very moment, your soul would be in imminent peril.

Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Jesus does love everyone,

Jesus only loves those who believe in Him and don't commit any of the 60 deadly sins from the New Testament.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

if you read the new testament it seems to say that we are supposed to love everyone. hate sin. not the sinner.

Where in the Bible does it say we are supposed to love everyone? Where does the Bible say hate the sin and not the sinner? That was actually a phrase coined by Ghandi not Jesus.

Also, for future reference, maybe you should try and get to know someone before you bash them for no reason....just a suggestion though.

My apologies for being harsh. I will treat you with more patience in the future.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Hello!

Excuse me sir? What right do you have to say that I'm not a Christian? Also, what do you know about my personal life? I'm not even 25 and I've played with some of the biggest names in music and at 2 of the biggest Christian music fests in the WORLD.

Really? What's your name? Where's your website?

I'd also like to say that if you read YOUR bible you'd see that speaking in tongues is something JESUS left for us.

Really?

Since you already clearly don't care what we say, I'm going to give you a link to a secular source you might respect which explains clearly why your nonsensical "tongues" is NOTHING but Satan's trickery:

The Christian Post gives us a look into the mind of Pastor Brady Boyd, Senior Pastor at the New Life Church, the Colorado Springs, CO megachurch founded by disgraced pastor Ted Haggard. As part of a sermon series on The Supernatural — wouldn’t that be pretty much any sermon involving gods and demons? — Boyd covered “speaking in tongues”.

Glossolalia, or “speaking in tongues”, is also known as “ecstatic speech”. Speakers believe that they are speaking in another language, and others believe they can interpret it. What do linguists think?

In his 1972 book, Tongues of Men and Angels: The Religious Language of Pentecostalism, University of Toronto linguist William Samarin described glossolalia as:

. . . meaningless but phonologically structured human utterance, believed by the speaker to be a real language but bearing no systematic resemblance to any natural language, living or dead.

More explicitly, glossolalia:

consists of strings of syllables, made up of sounds taken from all those that the speaker knows, put together more or less haphazardly but emerging nevertheless as word-like and sentence-like units because of realistic, language-like rhythm and melody.

Other researchers have come to the same conclusions, that the speech produced in an ecstatic state is a mishmash of sounds from the speaker’s native language — not new sounds or sounds from other languages not known to the speaker — with no perceivable organization or meaning.

...

Boyd’s congregation doesn’t have Coloradans suddenly speaking fluent Swahili or Russian. That’s the recorded “miracle” of Acts 2; the apostles spoke fluently in existing, real languages they did not know:

Acts 2:3-4 “And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.”

Acts 2:8 “And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?”

Acts 2:11 “Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.”

Far from speaking and hearing in different languages, Boyd’s congregation has Coloradans blabbing in something a step below baby talk — which often has an attempt at meaning behind it, unlike Godly gibberish — and calling it “God’s language”, while others decide what is intended and “interpret”.

Does that sound like the “miracle” from Acts 2 to you? Or any sort of a “gift”?

I'm sorry that you feel the way you do about the message.

My friend and fellow Pastor already explained to you how the Message twists Scripture. Did you not read what he wrote?

An adulterer is not someone who "uses and abuses sex", it is someone who breaks his or her wedding vow of fidelity. Jesus wasn't saying that addicts wouldn't get into Heaven (and how cruel and unfair would that be, if addiction is truly a disease?). He was saying people who commit forbidden acts (sins) will not get into Heaven. And where do you go if not Heaven, friend?

Jesus does love everyone, if you read the new testament it seems to say that we are supposed to love everyone. hate sin. not the sinner.

First, please show me, chapter and verse, where the Bible says to "hate sin, not the sinner".

Second, read Ecclesiastes 9 and Revelation 20-22. You will then understand that when you die, you are unknowing until the Resurrection at Judgment. God will resurrect long-dead sinners from unknowing death, so He can tell them that they sinned, and then torture them forever in His Lake of Fire.

This you call "love"?

What kind of a sick monster do you worship, anyway?

Also, for future reference, maybe you should try and get to know someone before you bash them for no reason....just a suggestion though.

You were "bashed" for your lies about Jesus and your false claims of being a Christian. Pretty solid reasons.

As for the "selective reading" bit, I've read the Bible cover to cover...If you read, basically what Jesus says is that by him dying on the cross for our sins we are saved through GRACE, his LOVE for us. He made the Old Test law irrelevant showing that we cannot be as good as him.

Please show us where in the Bible it says we are no longer under Old Testament law. I suggest looking to the words of Jesus Himself in Matthew 5:17-20.

Also, please tell us where the Bible says you can continue to sin just as you did before, after being Saved, and still remain Saved. You might find a good answer in 1 John 2:2-4 or in 1 John 3:1-9.

How do you know that I'm not a pastor?

Because you know nothing about the Bible.

You are the most arrogant people I have ever had the displeasure of coming in contact with.

Are we your enemy, because we tell you the truth?