[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hello from Scotland

I've so far looked at philosophers (mainly looking at it from a philisophical standpoint) such as St. Thomas Aquinas, Avicenna, Hume, Kant, Plato, Aristotle, Socretes, Bertrand Russel and William Lane Craig.


Anything without a reference is useless to me.

How's the Holy Word of God for a reference, pal?

"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy." -- Colossians 2:8

Put down the Jameson's and pick up the Bible!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Hello from Scotland

The Problem you face in the cosmological argument for God is twofold:

(i) Aquinas said that the universe would require God to keep it going.
(ii) The argument regresses infinitely.

Aquinas was a Catholic, and as such guided by Satan. We can tell this as his argument involves God creating a job for Himself 24/7. If God is wise, and we know He is, then this would not be Wisdom. We can therefore dismiss Aquinas. Like all Catlix and false Christians, he thought that God was whatever Aquinas thought was right at the time – Aquinas basically worshiped himself.

Plato and Aristotle both lived before Jesus, Who told us so much more about the Earth, as He was there when it was created ~6,000 years ago. So basically these two old-timers didn’t have the full dollar.

Moving on:
The infinite regression holds no problems for God, Who is outside Space and Time, is infinite and all-powerful. Atheist scientists have recently come to recognize that space and time are artefacts of Creation. They say that there was no Time before the Big Bang.

This now only creates a bigger problem. Time is the measure of change (see the Book of Ecclesiastes) So, without time, nothing changes. If nothing changes, there is no Big Bang.

Let us now assume a God free of Space and Time and the problem is instantly solved.

“But”, I hear you say, “What if it were not Your God but, say, The Blue God of Ghana, or one of them Aztec Gods?”

I would then refer you to the infantile, simplistic myths that are the hallmarks of such spear-chuckers. No one in their right mind would put store by them.

For the godless Unsaved Trash, we can even tell them, “Look, whatever caused the Universe, then that is God.” This is a useful dumbing-down to put them on the path to righteousness. I’m sure you agree that guiding the lost sheep to Salvation is our duty here on earth.

[SisterNeedsASaviour]

Re: Hello from Scotland

Ohh and also, no, Jesus did not kill Dr. Schramm, and the universe is expanding.

HERETIC!!



Don't your English overlords call you Scottish lot "Porridge Wogs"? This hell bound path you're treading - this is what happens to a people who glorify their pagan past. The Lord has punished you by turning you into a nation of people who eat porridge mixed with internal organs and stuffed into the stomachs of sheep!


And as for the deep fried pizza well...that's the devils carbohydrate and make no mistake!

NB: And He's none too pleased about what you got up to with the sheep the night before you ett it neither!

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Hello from Scotland

The Problem you face in the cosmological argument for God is twofold:

(i) Aquinas said that the universe would require God to keep it going.
(ii) The argument regresses infinitely.
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Excellent point Brother Bathfire – in my haste I left out Kurt Gödel as a reference this unsaved trash should be consulting as a valuable reference in these matters even if he, along with Wittgenstein, only further obfuscates the truth with his academic drivel.