[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

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Have your prayers? Can you prove your bible? Can you prove your god exists in any way besides saying "but this book says this...and the MAN who wrote it said this..."

Other religions have "bibles" too, you know.

All religions are a matter of faith, not proven fact. No one flies on a broom and no witch in the entire world thinks this is possible. But we do know that magic exists, that a well-written and properly executed spell will work. Though following a witchcraft based religion is more about observing ritual and tradition, and celebrating the gods and their feast days, then in say trying to make something happen with a spell. Just as you "know" that your god exists, you "know" that miracles happen, etc., But I really don't care whether you believe in my religion or not. The point is, it is not retarded (I think the word you're really looking for here is immature) to follow a religion. The other point is that you can tell a real witch they will go to hell all you want, but that isn't going to bother them or make them change their religion because it means nothing to them.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Have your prayers? Can you prove your bible? Can you prove your god exists in any way besides saying "but this book says this...and the MAN who wrote it said this..."

Quite. I'm happy to share after you answer my question.

[James Hutchins]

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Really? I've admitted this? Are you delusional?

Friend, I am not going to search through all 99 of your posts to prove you lie. You are a goth. Everyone knows, all goths are liars.

My boyfriend is a rapist? Really? Where do you come up with this crap?

Again, you confessed this. You have a bastard son out of wedlock. You can 'play house' all you want but your 'boyfriend' will leave you as soon as he finds another whore with a better lifestyle to offer him and let him continue his 'downlow' deathstyle. I find it funny you buy into him telling you he is a 'Christian'. I suppose he goes to Church on Friday nights and comes home sweaty and smelling of man sex from m'praying on his knees' all night.

I'd still love to know how exactly my boyfriend could possibly be homosexual when he is a man and I am a woman.

...... trying to force people to be homosexual.

See above.

You know, if you would read the Bible and stop living a make beleive life, you'd see the truth and rejoice in being washed in the blood of the lamb.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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But we do know that magic exists, that a well-written and properly executed spell will work.

Please, do share!

[James Hutchins]

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Honestly, I know a Goth who is rumoured to be in jail for molesting children. I do not deny this. Nor do I deny that he is a Goth.....

I also know of a case where a Darkwave fan (which is Goth music) kicked a girl's face in with his steel toed boots, and she had to have reconstructive surgery. I do not deny this, nor that he was Goth. ....proof of a bunch of mentally ill idiots ....

I also never said all Goths are nice people. .....

Weird is in the eye of the beholder.
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What have you to say now liar?

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

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Quite. I'm happy to share after you answer my question.

Why? My first point was only that no witch is going to care whether you think they're going to hell or not because we don't believe in it. Why do you keep expecting "you're going to hell" to bother people who don't believe in hell?

"Friend, I am not going to search through all 99 of your posts to prove you lie. You are a goth. Everyone knows, all goths are liars."

You will not say because I have never said that I have murdered anyone or drank anyone's blood. Quite the opposite in fact.

And you don't know that. You can't know that because it isn't true. Not all Goths are liars. Most Goths, in my experience, are more honest than most folks.

"Again, you confessed this. You have a bastard son out of wedlock"

Sex outside of marriage is not rape.

"You can 'play house' all you want but your 'boyfriend' will leave you as soon as he finds another whore with a better lifestyle to offer him and let him continue his 'downlow' deathstyle.
""

I'm starting to feel sorry for you. Have you never known true love in your life? That is usually the only explanation for thinking there is no such thing as true love between two humans.

"I suppose he goes to Church on Friday nights and comes home sweaty and smelling of man sex from m'praying on his knees' all night. "

You do realize church is on Sundays, right? My boyfriend rarely goes anywhere on a Friday night without me, unless he's working. Last Friday we went to Club Orpheus for one of their Goth nights.

"You know, if you would read the Bible and stop living a make beleive life, you'd see the truth and rejoice in being washed in the blood of the lamb. "

I've read the bible. It's an interesting mythology collection. I don't live a make believe life. I'm well-grounded in reality. And washed in blood? EW! And you call Goths sick...

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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I do not condone rape, murder or abuse of people on any grounds (including differences in religious beliefs or race or fashion). It is also against the law.

Whoa there, just a darn minute! 'On any grounds'?

What kind of Christian talk is that?

2nd Chronicles 15:13 "That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman."

God commands us to do murder to the unbeliever!

And is rape always a crime? Mostly, yes. But consider:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 "If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days."

If a man is a man of means he's doing the father a favour.

And talking a favours from fathers: is this abuse?

Proverbs 23:13-14 "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell."

And further with the father with favours motif.

Genesis 19:1-11 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.

11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

So you see your frankly bizzare admonishion that murder and rape and abuse is wrong is astonishing. Jesus commands these acts on more than one occasion. I have to say it's pretty darned arrogant to go around claiming to know more about Jesus about who to rape or kill.

You should re evaluate your priorities

God bless.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Why?

If it's true, you should have no trouble finding a spell that will work for me (assuming I execute it properly, which you will no doubt tell me how). If it's true, you should harbor no embarrassment for sharing it. If it's true, you should want to share it with others for the sake of their benefit (that is, if you really do care about others, an idea you're proving is false).

My first point was only that no witch is going to care whether you think they're going to hell or not because we don't believe in it. Why do you keep expecting "you're going to hell" to bother people who don't believe in hell?

It's a part of our charitable nature to share the Truth, even with those who don't care.

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

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What have you to say now liar?

How does that make me a liar? I wasn't aware that I was a pock-marked short 30some year old man named Michael. I also clearly indicated the Darkwave fan was also a man. Nor did I mention that either of these people committed murder or drank blood. The girl who had her face kicked in, I mentioned she had to have reconstructive surgery, so obviously she is alive.

You said I admitted that I committed murder and drank blood. I have "confessed" to no such lies. I have also clearly said multiple times that I myself, and the majority of the Goth scene, are against murder, rape, etc., We try to keep people like those above out of our clubs and homes, and we report such incidents if they happen within our clubs or area. The Baltimore scene has turned in one such person and helped the police in their investigation. The last I heard about one incident was when the manager of Club Orpheus posted on Facebook for anyone who saw the man to turn him in because he had escaped.

You know very well that every group (especially when they number over 1,000) will have some bad seeds within it. You cannot judge an entire community by what a few people do.

I have NOT admitted that I have committed any crimes because I have not done so. Nor have I admitted that I myself have drank blood. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that blood makes me squeamish and, though no harm comes to anyone from it when it is done safely, I find the idea of drinking blood disgusting.

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

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If it's true, you should have no trouble finding a spell that will work for me (assuming I execute it properly, which you will no doubt tell me how). If it's true, you should harbor no embarrassment for sharing it. If it's true, you should want to share it with others for the sake of their benefit (that is, if you really do care about others, an idea you're proving is false).



It's a part of our charitable nature to share the Truth, even with those who don't care.

First of all, I don't need to prove my religion to you. You're ignoring the point.

Second, how can I find a spell that will work for you? For a spell to work, it is supposed to be written by the witch who is to perform it, since your desire is personal. What I can recommend is that you go to your local occult shop or book store, or even look online, and find a book or article on how to write a spell. And I do hope you realize that a spell is not just words.

Third, sharing a spell is not about embarrassment. It is part of our religion that a witch does not share her own spells with anyone outside her coven.

[Irinka the repentant jewess]

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First of all, I don't need to prove my religion to you. You're ignoring the point.

Second, how can I find a spell that will work for you? For a spell to work, it is supposed to be written by the witch who is to perform it, since your desire is personal. What I can recommend is that you go to your local occult shop or book store, or even look online, and find a book or article on how to write a spell. And I do hope you realize that a spell is not just words.

Third, sharing a spell is not about embarrassment. It is part of our religion that a witch does not share her own spells with anyone outside her coven.

Now, that is getting scary. I would just as soon stay away from spells altogether, thank you very much. Prayer proves to be safer and a lot more beneficial to all of us. 1 Thessalonians 5:17.

[Faith_Machine]

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Dear Fatty,

Could you please learn how to use BBscript quote tags so it's easier to understand when you're quoting somebody else's posts, as opposed to making your own, original statement?

That would make it a little easier to get through your giant walls of self-indulgent text.

Thanks.

Now then, you say I've offered no evidence? What are you asking me for? Do you want to see the death certificates from my old friends and acquaintances who committed suicide or died of drug overdoses because they were wallowing in the goth scene instead of having their spiritual thirst slaked by Jesus Christ?

What kind of ghoul are you?

And since you're so big on evidence, you stated here that magical spells work. Sister Mary politely asked you to post proof of this claim.

Please do so.

If you can not produce proof that magic works, we will take that as your acknowledgment that magic is utter nonsense, and you are daft for believing in it.

[James Hutchins]

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How does that make me a liar? ....
You know very well that every group (especially when they number over 1,000) will have some bad seeds within it. You cannot judge an entire community by what a few people do.

I have NOT admitted that I have committed any crimes because I have not done so. Nor have I admitted that I myself have drank blood. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that blood makes me squeamish and, though no harm comes to anyone from it when it is done safely, I find the idea of drinking blood disgusting.

Not a single True Christian(tm) has ever done anything that was not perscribed in the JKJV Bible. Ever.

Now you goth people on the other hand... I see you pointing your spindly finger at the rest of your coven, trying to take the focus off of yourself but we are not tricked by witchery. You people are all like that, pulling sleight of hand and deceiving decent people.

Tell me, when you eat babies, do you eat the bones like nigras do to chicken?

[Brother Larry]

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Greetings in the name of JESUS.

My slim witch wannabe, simply believing that witches are like Elphaba in "Wicked" does not make it so. Isn't it terrible how satan clouds things in light when they really have the appearance of a diseased toad?

There are no real "rules" in Wicca, so sharing a spell outside the group is not going to make an apple tree grow out of your ear. In fact, each coven seems to have its own rules that come out of the rectal area of the coven leader more than anything. No reason, just whim.

Our friendly forums provide an opportunity to learn more about JESUS.
"Take my yoke vpon you, and learne of me, for I am meeke and lowly in heart: and yee shall find rest vnto your soules." (Matthew 11:29)

Our loving pastors (such as the handsome, Adonis-like Zeke - hey hey!) have given of themselves to instruct you in the ways of the LORD. What have you given back? I bet you haven't so much as dropped a fiver in the mail as an offering to help the many ministries of this, God's favorite and only true Church.

Like you, I was caught in a den of iniquity (Cathylickism) and yet I was smart enough to listen to True Christians. I allowed them to love me and have found guarded and conditional acceptance here which is more than my evilness deserved. Why not open your heart, which now pumps a thick and viscous fluid, so that the BLOOD OF THE LAMB can make you white as snow? The help will be happy to get you a towel.

In HIM,
Brother Larry

[Mary Etheldreda]

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First of all, I don't need to prove my religion to you.

You do if you want your point to have any credibility.

You're ignoring the point.

On the contrary, I'm following your point and asking you to follow it as well.

Second, how can I find a spell that will work for you?

I don't know, dear. How do spells work? What's the mechanism behind it? Are the words themselves magic? Does the breath make the air magic? Is it the thought or the words? If I program a computer generated voice to say the right words, would that work? If no one else is around does the magic work? If there are nonbelievers, does the magic loose its effect? Is there a certain percentage reduction to the effect of magic under specific conditions? How, exactly, does this work?

For a spell to work, it is supposed to be written by the witch who is to perform it, since your desire is personal.

Then you perform a spell for me. Make it snow outside my window, please.

What I can recommend is that you go to your local occult shop or book store, or even look online, and find a book or article on how to write a spell. And I do hope you realize that a spell is not just words.

I don't realize this, that's why I'm asking. You keep evading the question. I think that's because you realize the answers to these questions are uncomfortable and reveal the reality that your practice is naught but extensive and dedicated LARPing.

Third, sharing a spell is not about embarrassment. It is part of our religion that a witch does not share her own spells with anyone outside her coven.

Oh sure, now you tell me. Let me guess, my spell won't come true now.