[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: You wanted an introduction

Hey Brother King,

She just wants to dilute the issue, which is that she just wants everybody to be OK with devil worshiping drug addicts who wear black lipstick and call themselves witches. She is wondering why Godly People would have a problem with that.

Exodus 22:18Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Deuteronomy 18:10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

Samuel 15:23For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

Leviticus 17:7 And they shall no more offer their sacrifices unto devils, after whom they have gone a whoring. This shall be a statute for ever unto them throughout their generations.

Obviously she cannot see the conflict

YiC
DAM

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: You wanted an introduction

Hey Nobar,

She just wants to dilute the issue, which is that she just wants everybody to be OK with devil worshiping drug addicts who wear black lipstick and call themselves witches. She is wondering why Godly people would have a problem with that.

Exodus 22:18Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Deuteronomy 18:10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

Samuel 15:23For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

Leviticus 17:7 And they shall no more offer their sacrifices unto devils, after whom they have gone a whoring. This shall be a statute for ever unto them throughout their generations.

Obviously she cannot see the conflict

YiC
DAM

I don't want to dilute anything. Goths are not necessary devil worshipers, actually very few Goths are Satanists of either kind. Very few Goths wear black lipstick, we know it's unflattering on most people. It's mostly only teenage wannabes who wear black lipstick. As I said many times, the Goth scene does not promote, condone, or allow drugs in clubs. Not all Goths are witches, some are Christian or other religions. I understand why you would have a problem with those things, I have a problem with those things myself, as does most of the Goth subculture. The Goth community is not a prostitution ring, Goths don't even have sex in their clubs (unlike other nightclubs) and the only thing most of the Goths who are Pagan or Wiccan sacrifice is food, perhaps a piece of jewelry important to them, or their own blood. No matter how many times you claim otherwise, these things will not be true about the Goth subculture or about myself.

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: You wanted an introduction

I don't want to dilute anything. Goths are etc. etc. more dilution

So basically what your saying is that the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to make some bad music? As if we would believe that.

Matthew 4 tells us that Satan is more devious than you are admitting. Has you family not tried to rid you of these perversions? What awful people

YiC
DAM

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: You wanted an introduction

I don't want to dilute anything. Goths are not necessary devil worshipers, actually very few Goths are Satanists of either kind. Very few Goths wear black lipstick, we know it's unflattering on most people. It's mostly only teenage wannabes who wear black lipstick. As I said many times, the Goth scene does not promote, condone, or allow drugs in clubs. Not all Goths are witches, some are Christian or other religions. I understand why you would have a problem with those things, I have a problem with those things myself, as does most of the Goth subculture. The Goth community is not a prostitution ring, Goths don't even have sex in their clubs (unlike other nightclubs) and the only thing most of the Goths who are Pagan or Wiccan sacrifice is food, perhaps a piece of jewelry important to them, or their own blood. No matter how many times you claim otherwise, these things will not be true about the Goth subculture or about myself.

You are a liar, like all witch whores.

This is a Christian forum. Why are you here? You are not welcome.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: You wanted an introduction

You are a liar, like all witch whores.

This is a Christian forum. Why are you here? You are not welcome.

I'm exhausted from reading this thread. "I don't do this…" and "I don't do that.." and "this goth band covered a Christian song…", and "not all goths do this…", and "not all goths do that…", "goths give to charity…" and "they are not goths because they are teenage wannabes…", and "Goths are happy despite the fact they are obsessed with death…", and on and on and on.

This one is awesomely tedious, overwhelmingly tiresome, and stunningly pointless. We are dealing with the worst kind of goth here - the Emo Goth. Totally given to her emotions of the moment and endless whining, it's impossible to have any rational conversation.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: You wanted an introduction

I'm exhausted from reading this thread. "I don't do this…" and "I don't do that.." and "this goth band covered a Christian song…", and "not all goths do this…", and "not all goths do that…", "goths give to charity…" and "they are not goths because they are teenage wannabes…", and "Goths are happy despite the fact they are obsessed with death…", and on and on and on.

This one is awesomely tedious, overwhelmingly tiresome, and stunningly pointless. We are dealing with the worst kind of goth here - the Emo Goth. Totally given to her emotions of the moment and endless whining, it's impossible to have any rational conversation.

Amen!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: You wanted an introduction

What is a Jesus toy?

Jesus toy

[Faith_Machine]

Re: You wanted an introduction

Dear Fatty,

You talk too much. Why don't you spend less time bragging about your weird lifestyle and more time begging God to forgive you for having a bastard son?

And don't give me any crap about your Christian metalhead you're betrothed to. If he was a real Christian, he wouldn't be in a sexual relationship with you. Betrothed, you say? That's a load of crap. If he was going to marry you, he would have already done it.

[Attila's Wife]

Re: You wanted an introduction

Hello,
My name is Morella Merryman. I am a 20 some year old Caucasian woman with a 4 (almost 5) year old (healthy) son and a wonderful (a Christian Metalhead) betrothed/boyfriend. I was born in May and am a Taurus. I live in Baltimore Maryland near Loch Raven, originally known as Raven's Rock. I am a practicing Pagan witch who worships the goddess Callisto, among many other gods and goddesses, as the high priestess of the Coven of the Black Shadows. I have my own business designing clothing and jewelry, and also babysit for a living, and am an attendee of Club Orpheus in Baltimore, Batz Over Baltimore at the Depot, Burnt Offerings at Sidebar, the now defunct Shampoo Nightclub in Philadelphia, and Midnight in D.C. I also have a 4 year old black cat named Mia. I am also a Goth, which means I am a fan of Goth Rock bands like Sisters of Mercy, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Rosetta Stone, Intra-venus, Dead Souls Rising, Bauhaus, 45 Grave, The Spiritual Bats, etc., I like classic Gothic horror/mystery/romance films and literature, historical fiction/drama, vampire/werewolf/zombie/witch and fantasy films. I took Fine Arts in High School and Fashion Design (though the school called it something else because they were not actually supposed to teach Fashion Design) and will be attending MICU next year. I am not here to be converted, or to convert, but simply to point out the incorrect information spread on this website about Goths. Why? Because I do not like to see atrocities, violence, and murder against anyone committed when they have done nothing wrong and misinformation can and has led to this. I am 5'1, weigh 105 lbs, am very pretty with very clear skin. I do not do drugs, I have no piercings or tattoos, I do not drink blood, I do not worship Satan, and I do not cut myself. Is there anything else you would like to know?

Blah blah blah. Paragraphs would be nice. Let's break this down into what it tells us about you:

- You are a single mother in your 20s, with a wildly exaggerated sense of your own importance and looks, who believes in astrology and worships false gods.

- You belong to a childish subculture, most of whose members are confused young teenagers.

- You run an unsuccessful business which forces you to supplement your income through babysitting. Is there anyone here who would leave a child with this person?

- Nobody here cares in what clubs you go to.

- And last but not least:

I do not like to see atrocities, violence, and murder against anyone committed when they have done nothing wrong

But on the other hand you think it's okay if they've been caught littering?

Faith_Machine is right. And I for one feel spiritually polluted by your presence here.

YiC
Attila's Wife

[MitzaLizalor]

ASTROLOGY

..believes in astrology and worships false gods.

So one day I looked to see where the sun was. Let's stick with Taurus, the bull and I went out one evening and there was Taurus in the sky BUT NO SUN. It had set. But according to the fraudsters running the astrology racket Taurus and the sun ought to have been in the same place! They were nowhere near each other! Well that was an eye-opener. But the witches who pump this stuff from their "covens" go into overdrive here: O but that Taurus is not the real Taurus and There's another magic Taurus that you can't see & the sun is really there or It's a special invisible sun & it is actually in Taurus, but only we can see it that will be $495ºº etc., etc., it doesn't matter what they say particularly because the punters will believe anything and they just make it up as they go along. They can't even agree which stars are in the zodiac for a start.

When people start invoking special magic versions of reality to square the circle of their delusion we know that the father of lies is active in their lives. Satan doesn't care whether his lies align with actual observations at all: he targets people who don't make them in the first place. And if by chance they happen to collide with a bit of reality that shows up the lie for what it is (by actually looking at the stars to see where the sun is for instance) that doesn't matter either. Devils start churning out mutually exclusive rationalisations to accommodate the lie and everything the astrologist thinks becomes warped. This is hallucination on a gigantic scale.

• They learn how to "see" that invisible sun
• A special "magic" Taurus becomes manifest
• They talk to one another about their astrologo-chart
• They imagine thenselves to be "compatible"
• Which means compatible for a good bonking session
• But it is not them doing that, it is the demons inside them
• And they have all the "fun"
• Leaving the witch empty and defeated
• And in line for the latest punishment from God
• Such as ebola

Jesus teaches us to NOT DO THIS. Those who do are condemned. Not "my opinion" but God's Just Law. Boyfriends who tolerate demon worship of this type and who probably are considered "compatible" based on their "star sign" or other attributes are not Christians.

ISAIAH 47
13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.
14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.
KJV . LOOK UP

[Roberta]

Re: You wanted an introduction

Was your statutory rapist ever caught? How dreadful it must have been carrying an illegitimate baby at 15!

Were you sent away to a Booth home for your confinement or did you openly bear your shame? What an embarrassment for your parents.

Check out: Deuteronomy 22:28-29. This is what God has to say.

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: You wanted an introduction

So basically what your saying is that the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to make some bad music? As if we would believe that.

Matthew 4 tells us that Satan is more devious than you are admitting. Has you family not tried to rid you of these perversions? What awful people

YiC
DAM

The devil writes music? The devil has a band? I didn't know this. I thought if he existed he would be too busy torturing souls to have time to start a band.

I'm exhausted from reading this thread. "I don't do this…" and "I don't do that.." and "this goth band covered a Christian song…", and "not all goths do this…", and "not all goths do that…", "goths give to charity…" and "they are not goths because they are teenage wannabes…", and "Goths are happy despite the fact they are obsessed with death…", and on and on and on.

This one is awesomely tedious, overwhelmingly tiresome, and stunningly pointless. We are dealing with the worst kind of goth here - the Emo Goth. Totally given to her emotions of the moment and endless whining, it's impossible to have any rational conversation.

I suggest you do some research on the term Emo as well. It means Emotive Hardcore, which I personally think is a horrid genre of "music." It has nothing to do with Goth or these whining teenagers.

And no it is not pointless to stand up for something you know is right, even if you do not expect or know you cannot make a difference. Nor is it whining to report the truth.

What is a Jesus toy?

What do you think it is? A toy made in the image of Jesus. Christian or not, all children should know who he is.

Dear Fatty,

You talk too much. Why don't you spend less time bragging about your weird lifestyle and more time begging God to forgive you for having a bastard son?

And don't give me any crap about your Christian metalhead you're betrothed to. If he was a real Christian, he wouldn't be in a sexual relationship with you. Betrothed, you say? That's a load of crap. If he was going to marry you, he would have already done it.

Dear warped mind,
I'm not sure where you people get the idea that 105lbs is fat. Do you think I'm 6 years old? I have yet to brag about anything. I am simply
pointing out the places where this website and the people on it are WRONG. And yet again, it's impossible to have an illegimate child if you are betrothed.


My boyfriend is a Christian. He believes in your god, that in essence is being a Christian, regardless of what you think.
Why wouldn't two betrothed people be in a sexual relationship? We are not married because we don't want to get married
in front of a judge, and anything else would cost money. We do not spend outside what we can afford. And if two people
are betrothed, there is absolutely no reason to rush a marriage. In your god's eyes, it was always believed that if you are
betrothed, you are already man and wife. It is only the law that disagrees.I don't call him my husband only because current law would not agree with me.

Blah blah blah. Paragraphs would be nice. Let's break this down into what it tells us about you:

- You are a single mother in your 20s, with a wildly exaggerated sense of your own importance and looks, who believes in astrology and worships false gods.

- You belong to a childish subculture, most of whose members are confused young teenagers.

- You run an unsuccessful business which forces you to supplement your income through babysitting. Is there anyone here who would leave a child with this person?

- Nobody here cares in what clubs you go to.

- And last but not least:

But on the other hand you think it's okay if they've been caught littering?

Faith_Machine is right. And I for one feel spiritually polluted by your presence here.

YiC
Attila's Wife

How do I have a wildly exagerrated sense of my own importance or looks? When you tell someone who cannot see you about yourself, you describe hair colour, etc.,
That's what you are supposed to do any time you describe yourself online. And if I had an exaggerated sense of my looks, I'd call myself beautiful not pretty.
Nor do I think I am important to anyone but my family and friends. Why would I?

Goth is not a childish subculture. Enjoying life is not childish. Most Goths are not "confused teenagers." Most "confused teenagers" who run around shouting
their Gothness have no idea what Goth is, they do not listen to Goth Rock. Most Goth rock fans are adults. I have only met a few teenagers who know what
Goth Rock is, let alone who listen to it.

I don't run an unsuccessful business. I run a SMALL business, which I started only a year ago. I babysit because, since I am running my own small business,
I have the time to do so, and my friend would not be able to go to work and support his children due to the crap his Christian crackwhore ex wife pulled, if
he did not have a babysitter. His Christian parents aren't physically capable of babysitting these kids on their own. He pays me because he doesn't he believes
having me babysit his kids 5 days a week without payment would be taking advantage.

Did I say you CARE what clubs I go to? Obviously you people don't CARE anything about the Goth scene, since all you do is throw around a bunch of unfounded
insults, arguments, improperly (if at all) researched misinformation about the Goth scene. Look at the real Goth clubs, or real Goth club nights, ANY of them,
and you would know that everything that has been rudely said about Goths here is 90% inaccurate. And what perhaps 10% of the scene does, cannot be used to define
a scene of thousands.

Give me some evidence that Goths have been caught littering. I don't know about where you live, but REAL Goths here, and any I know online, hate littering.
I have spend a good amount of time walking around and cleaning up the trash in the neighborhood, and have reported certain cemeteries for using the "woods"
part of their property as a junk yard without proper zoning. A lot of Goths, and Pagans/Wiccans love nature, and are part of clean up groups. Please show me
some evidence that I am wrong. Show me a video or something of a person wearing a Siouxsie and the Banshees, Bauhaus, etc., tshirt littering.


"

So one day I looked to see where the sun was. Let's stick with Taurus, the bull and I went out one evening and there was Taurus in the sky BUT NO SUN. It had set. But according to the fraudsters running the astrology racket Taurus and the sun ought to have been in the same place! They were nowhere near each other! Well that was an eye-opener. But the witches who pump this stuff from their "covens" go into overdrive here: O but that Taurus is not the real Taurus and There's another magic Taurus that you can't see & the sun is really there or It's a special invisible sun & it is actually in Taurus, but only we can see it that will be $495ºº etc., etc., it doesn't matter what they say particularly because the punters will believe anything and they just make it up as they go along. They can't even agree which stars are in the zodiac for a start.

When people start invoking special magic versions of reality to square the circle of their delusion we know that the father of lies is active in their lives. Satan doesn't care whether his lies align with actual observations at all: he targets people who don't make them in the first place. And if by chance they happen to collide with a bit of reality that shows up the lie for what it is (by actually looking at the stars to see where the sun is for instance) that doesn't matter either. Devils start churning out mutually exclusive rationalisations to accommodate the lie and everything the astrologist thinks becomes warped. This is hallucination on a gigantic scale.

• They learn how to "see" that invisible sun
• A special "magic" Taurus becomes manifest
• They talk to one another about their astrologo-chart
• They imagine thenselves to be "compatible"
• Which means compatible for a good bonking session
• But it is not them doing that, it is the demons inside them
• And they have all the "fun"
• Leaving the witch empty and defeated
• And in line for the latest punishment from God
• Such as ebola

Jesus teaches us to NOT DO THIS. Those who do are condemned. Not "my opinion" but God's Just Law. Boyfriends who tolerate demon worship of this type and who probably are considered "compatible" based on their "star sign" or other attributes are not Christians.

ISAIAH 47
13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.
14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.
KJV . LOOK UP

"

I worship the goddess Callisto, not any demons.

Was your statutory rapist ever caught? How dreadful it must have been carrying an illegitimate baby at 15!

Were you sent away to a Booth home for your confinement or did you openly bear your shame? What an embarrassment for your parents.

Check out: Deuteronomy 22:28-29. This is what God has to say.

What on earth would make you think I was ever raped in any sense of the word? I simply pointed out my view on abortion, which is
not based on me being raped, it's based on the fact that a lot of women are raped and carrying their rapists child can lead to mental
decline. I also mentioned that your sites reffer to Goth children as demons, and says that Goths are given handicapped children for
their "sins", and that God hates the handicapped. So if someone, ANYONE, knows their child will be deformed, handicapped, mentally
ill, or will only spend their short time on earth just lying there in pain, WHY would you want them to live?

I had my son in a hospital, like any sane person would do. No one is embarassed or shamed by him. He is a wonderful, sweet, intelligent
gift.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: You wanted an introduction

I worship the goddess Callisto, not any demons.

I'm quite well versed in history and superstitious heathen beliefs, but I have never heard of godess Callisto. Is that some new tradition of yours, like modern false religions such as wiccans and scientologist have?

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: You wanted an introduction

I'm quite well versed in history and superstitious heathen beliefs, but I have never heard of godess Callisto. Is that some new tradition of yours, like modern false religions such as wiccans and scientologist have?

Nope. The original "myth" was that Callisto was a goddess of the hunt in her own right. Later, like a lot of gods and goddesses she became known as less, simply a nymph under Artemis, who was seduced or raped by Zeus, had his child, and both were turned into bears and placed in the sky as Ursa Minor and Ursa Major.

No religion is false. Every religion is real to those who believe. Though Wicca is a modernized Christianized version of Paganism. Scientology is not a religion, and I'm not sure what all it en-tales.

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: You wanted an introduction

You are obviously so huffy and defensive you can't think straight. You seem to be blindly and wildly lashing out without considering what anyone has actually said, like a child in a tantrum.

To me this says that in your heart of hearts you are growing weary of being Satan's sex doll, and that you are looking for someone to bring you to Jesus.

Well your in luck sister! We are hear for you

The first step is to stop dressing like a whore

This is a good place to find information on that Modest Girl's Guide to Purity, or, An Open Letter To My Niece

Next you need some better music to listen to

Recommended True Christian™ Music

These changes should only take you a few minutes, reading The Bible might take you a day or two, keep a pad handy to write down your favorite verses/verses that need clarifying (ask one of our Pastors!).

and finally

GET YOUR ASS TO CHURCH

These steps are not the entire journey, you still need to ask God to forgive mocking him, worshiping Satan, and drinking drug urine.

I hope this brief guide is helpful to you along your new spiritual journey.

Yours in Him
DAM