[JimmiGerman]

Re: Hello from Hamburg

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Just out of curiosity, what was the condition of angels before they were "born"? How were they conceived? Before replying you ought to glance at Jesus’ comment:

MATTHEW 22
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
KJV

Tonight I will look on Ebay for an English version of the KJV Bible to acquire one. I will read it from the beginning to the end, as I did with the Book of M*O*R*M*O*N.

Then, at last, I will hold the BoM in my left hand and the Bible in my right hand, and which one is heavier should be the right scripture.


By the way...
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

So in the resurrection they are as the angels of God in Heaven...? Hmm... that means they are not exactly the same, and there must be a difference between real angels and the resurrected ones...

But who knows exactly about angels...? Anyway, I've seen the angels last night 'cause I've had more than enough on my Astra party yesterday.

[MitzaLizalor]

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So in the resurrection they are as the angels of God in Heaven...? Hmm... that means they are not exactly the same, and there must be a difference between real angels and the resurrected ones...

The specific feature being referred to here is sexual reproduction.

But who knows exactly about angels...?

Jesus.


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RECAP.

Matthew.22:22-30 COMPLETE KJV HERE



You have ignored the very well known facts regarding Smith's translation abilities. More details here:

“FROM A MORMON SOURCE done by Elder Geo. Reynolds
This is a historical document which defends the authenticity of the controversial Book of Abraham, part of the canonical Pearl of Great Price. The Book of Abraham was purportedly translated from an Egyptian manuscript purchased by the Mormons from a travelling show in 1835, long before their trek to Utah. Joseph Smith quickly produced a translation of this document, claiming it was written by Abraham in his own hand. Since modern knowledge of the Egyptian writing system was in its infancy at this time, there was no way to verify this claim.

The manuscript disappeared for many years until it resurfaced in 1967 in the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York. At that time Egyptian experts verified that it was actually a papyrus of a portion of the Book of the Dead.

Notwithstanding, the Book of Abraham is still considered part of the Pearl of Great Price and is held to be authentic by devout Mormons. This does not invalidate Mormon doctrine; any sacred text which has have signficance for the faithful should be considered valid on its own terms.
”

1. It cannot be a "canonical book" without being an addition to The Bible. Such additions are explicitly prohibited in The Bible.
2. purportedly definition use purportedly in a sentence: Charles Ponzi purportedly offered a genuine investment opportunity deriving from postage stamps but was in fact a crook who got chucked in the joint.
3. It was never a translation as became blatantly obvious as soon as hieroglyphics could be translated and therefore Smith knew this at the time. Although purporting to be a prophet he was in fact a crook who got chucked in the joint.
4. conveniently for Smith and his fellow social lampreys
5. this is called delusional psychosis

However many pages are written on this subject, the fact remains that anything additional to The Bible cannot ever possibly be Scriprure because it requires The Holy Ghost through whom actual Scripture is inspired to have been lying. Maybe a Zoroastrian could produce something called Zoroastrian scripture but that is not claiming to be connected in any way with The Bible or to be associated with Christianity. Mormons do claim a connection with The Bible and to be associated with Christianity. This really is a no-brainer.

“continued from above
Keep in mind that this is actually a very typical story of the origin of many sacred texts, including all of the best known ones; the difference is simply that it played itself out recently instead of in the misty past. --J.B. Hare.
”

That many "sacred" texts are the result of deliberate fraud and set aside so as to be excluded from examination by people who actually know what they're talking about is obvious from the debauched societies they produce. However although true believers in such lies might not evaluate the source material it is generally available and does get scrutinised by others. The outcome is identical with that resulting from examination of Smith's heresy.



I hope the linked KJV source is helpful for you. We welcome examination of Biblical sources because they reveal The Truth.

[JimmiGerman]

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Mrs Liz Taylor... ähhh... MitzaLizalor wrote kindly here:

You have ignored the very well known facts regarding Smith's translation abilities. More details here:

You always have to ignore some facts because otherwise you coulnd't believe.Thanks for the details, but of course I know all that very well, nothing new, since I've been in several dirty German anti-Mormon forums.

I hope the linked KJV source is helpful for you. We welcome examination of Biblical sources because they reveal The Truth.

Yes, Madam, you're certainly right. It's eternal progress in reading the scriptures and receiving the Spirit. Praise the Lord!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hello from Hamburg

If you would like to know more boring things about me don't hesitate to ask.

Have you ever visited Hannover?

[JimmiGerman]

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Have you ever visited Hannover?

Yes, but it's more than 30 years ago. You mean the capital of Lower-Saxonia, and it was before the ICE era and it took approx. 2 hours from Hamburg by train. Even if it's an areawide city, the population is not comparable with Hamburg and the population density is not so high but widely spreaded there, not concentrated downtown or so, and the city seems to be surrounded by kinds of small villages. And I disliked the streetcar (tram) system there, endless driving from downtown through that Hannover area.

Btw. at night that city seemed to me like a cultural desert... okay, it's more than 30 years ago, as I mentioned... maybe now it's different. If you asked me if I liked Hannover you certainly would guess what my answer was...

Do you have relatives or friends there...? Ever been there by yourself? Or your ancestors once came from there?

[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

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After this long chit-chat-session, and finding out that you know a bit about Germany, I'd like to ask you something very personal:

Do you want a personal relationship with the Lord? If, you can find it through his son Jesus. Just let Jesus touch you!!! John 14:6

Sin separates you from God and Jesus. So, if you want to feel Jesus inside you, you have to leave all your sinful thoughts and mormon cult behind and give yourself totally to Him. Joh 14:23

Do you want to that eternal Joy, that is in Heaven with JESUS, or are you on a short bus to HELL?

[JimmiGerman]

Re: Hello from Hamburg

After this long chit-chat-session, and finding out that you know a bit about Germany, I'd like to ask you something very personal:

Do you want a personal relationship with the Lord? If, you can find it through his son Jesus. Just let Jesus touch you!!! John 14:6

Sin separates you from God and Jesus. So, if you want to feel Jesus inside you, you have to leave all your sinful thoughts and mormon cult behind and give yourself totally to Him. Joh 14:23

Do you want to that eternal Joy, that is in Heaven with JESUS, or are you on a short bus to HELL?

First I'm waiting for the KJV version of the Bible I've purchased on Ebay last Tuesday. Mormonism has given me so much and I'm not a damned cowardly traitor on my own faith who leaves all behind himself from one day to the other. I'm not one of those gallows birds who would steal another man's horse because his own one isn't good enough any more!

Btw. I don't believe ithat the hell really exists. I believe the more you've moved away from Godi, the more you are in a "state of hell"... that means the Telestial Kingdom one day, which is the lowest level of all kingdoms of our Lord, the Allmighty, or the Outer Darkness in a very heavy case.

Yea, and the more we move away from God, the more we are in a state of spiritual emptiness, ant there can be no hell created by imagination of a man burning so hot and being so painful as the moment when God has decided never to let you see His shining countenance and the light of mercy and eternal love.

No, my northern friend, I'm not on the bus to hell... not on the bus or on the subway. There is no end of glory, there is no end of love, there is no end of wisdom, there is no dead above! Yea!

[Mary Etheldreda]

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First I'm waiting for the KJV version of the Bible I've purchased on Ebay last Tuesday. Mormonism has given me so much and I'm not a damned cowardly traitor on my own faith who leaves all behind himself from one day to the other. I'm not one of those gallows birds who would steal another man's horse because his own one isn't good enough any more!

Btw. I don't believe ithat the hell really exists. I believe the more you've moved away from Godi, the more you are in a "state of hell"... that means the Telestial Kingdom one day, which is the lowest level of all kingdoms of our Lord, the Allmighty, or the Outer Darkness in a very heavy case.

Yea, and the more we move away from God, the more we are in a state of spiritual emptiness, ant there can be no hell created by imagination of a man burning so hot and being so painful as the moment when God has decided never to let you see His shining countenance and the light of mercy and eternal love.

No, my northern friend, I'm not on the bus to hell... not on the bus or on the subway. There is no end of glory, there is no end of love, there is no end of wisdom, there is no dead above! Yea!

This doesn't make any sense, dear. Scientologists believe there is no hell, there is only the return of life after life until one gets it "right." Your make-believe "telestial kingdom" is no more goofy than their thetans rising up from ignorance.

If you want the Truth, turn to Jesus Christ as revealed in the Holy Bible (not book of moron).
If you're going to play make-believe, go big or go home.

[JimmiGerman]

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This doesn't make any sense, dear. Scientologists believe there is no hell, there is only the return of life after life until one gets it "right." Your make-believe "telestial kingdom" is no more goofy than their thetans rising up from ignorance.

If you want the Truth, turn to Jesus Christ as revealed in the Holy Bible (not book of moron).
If you're going to play make-believe, go big or go home.

Scientology is a godless and devlish and inhuman fascistic institution. Not a religious one in the real meaning of what you should call religious except you mean satanism. I know exactly what I'm talking about, they are here in Hamburg, too, at Steindamm Street with one of their headquarters, those devils. But they are under continuous investigation by the departments here, for example by the Verfassungsschutz (Constitution Defense Department of Hamburg) and the Staatsschutzabteilung of the police (State Security Department of Hamburg Police). They are dangerous insanes.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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"Mormonism is a godless and devlish and inhuman fascistic institution. Not a religious one in the real meaning of what you should call religious except you mean satanism.... They are dangerous insanes."

This is an accurate statement as well.

[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

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if you go on your life in sin, you will be destroyed. The Blood of Jesus Christ does not cover obstinate sinner. Hebrews 10:26-31

[JimmiGerman]

Re: Hello from Hamburg

"Mormonism is a godless and devlish and inhuman fascistic institution. Not a religious one in the real meaning of what you should call religious except you mean satanism.... They are dangerous insanes."

This is an accurate statement as well.

No, it is not, and you might know it as well, deep from your heart, and if you'd given an honest statement instead of a sarcastic one, I should, in this special case, respect you even more since I do here, anyway.

winki-winkis from Hamburg, dear Mary, the most romantic city and my beloved place (even prefered to Heaven).

[JimmiGerman]

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if you go on your life in sin, you will be destroyed. The Blood of Jesus Christ does not cover obstinate sinner. Hebrews 10:26-31

Gettin' a bit nasty and pesty nasty boring by the time, Finman, which country is the boss in Europe? Don't drink so much and learn Swedish, and cut your dirty fingernails with your Finmark knive, 'cause it's nothing worth more in comparison with German knives from Solingen, before you're gonna talk that way with a German, and stop drinkin' your self-destilled poison there, as long as your brain still works. No ghost destroys a German, and trying to destroy Germany is like proceeding suicide, as from history you might have learned.

Heil Hinkel!

[JimmiGerman]

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Yea, and who is anything in comparison to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydeJt2dQxWg

Changing of the Guard in Berlin.

Btw part of my descendants once came from West-Prussia to Hamburg. they once made it!

[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

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Gettin' a bit nasty and pesty nasty boring by the time, Finman, which country is the boss in Europe? Don't drink so much and learn Swedish, and cut your dirty fingernails with your Finmark knive, 'cause it's nothing worth more in comparison with German knives from Solingen, before you're gonna talk that way with a German, and stop drinkin' your self-destilled poison there, as long as your brain still works. No ghost destroys a German, and trying to destroy Germany is like proceeding suicide, as from history you might have learned.

Heil Hinkel!

You think you are stronger than GOD?

John 10:29

Matt 22:13

I feel sorry for You. But just a bit.