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  • #31
    Re: Don't Light Candles This Christmas, It's Pagan

    Originally posted by Rachael Van Helsing View Post
    Everything about the holiday is pretty much pagan! As I've said many times before, when the christian conquerors were forcing christianity on the pagans, part of the process of conversion was to make the dates coincide with pagan dates to make this an easier process.

    I just find it incredibly funny that you acknowledge things like what was pointed out in the original post, yet you continually ignore all the other pagan elements to your religion.

    Why is that, exactly?
    Of course, "Ms." Van Helsing, you would look at Christmas through your biased eyes, so unlike objective scholars at Landover Baptist University.
    If you tried to tell the Christmas has pagan roots, they would show you chapter and verse this is not so.

    Today's "pagans", like yourself, came along after the world was created by God. You have tried to make up history.

    That is why it is so important not to light candles on Christmas. It is an open invitation in invite Satan into your life.

    Just by chance, would you like to meet a fine Christian bachelor? I can help you meet some at Landover Baptist Church. Attend next Sunday and we can visit.
    Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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    • #32
      Re: Don't Light Candles This Christmas, It's Pagan

      Originally posted by Rachael Van Hellbound View Post
      Everything about the holiday is pretty much pagan!
      Everything about Christmas is pagan? EVERYTHING??

      How about the undeniable fact that Jesus was born on Christmas! Is that "pagan?" Why do you think it's called CHRISTMAS you stupid sack of sin!? It's not called "paganmas" is it? No! CHRISTMAS! As in Christ Jesus' BIRTHDAY!

      Sweet Jesus, Van Hellfire, you've gotten dumber over the years, if that's even possible...
      Who Will Jesus Damn?

      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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      • #33
        Re: Don't Light Candles This Christmas, It's Pagan

        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
        Everything about Christmas is pagan? EVERYTHING??

        How about the undeniable fact that Jesus was born on Christmas! Is that "pagan?" Why do you think it's called CHRISTMAS you stupid sack of sin!? It's not called "paganmas" is it? No! CHRISTMAS! As in Christ Jesus' BIRTHDAY!

        Sweet Jesus, Van Hellfire, you've gotten dumber over the years, if that's even possible...
        How is that "fact" undeniable? Where's the evidence? It's certainly not in the Bible, there are certainly no records of it. Christmas was celebrated BEFORE Jesus was born.
        Proverbs 6
        [16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
        [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
        [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
        [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

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        • #34
          Re: Don't Light Candles This Christmas, It's Pagan

          Originally posted by lolzomgz1337 View Post
          How is that "fact" undeniable? Where's the evidence? It's certainly not in the Bible, there are certainly no records of it. Christmas was celebrated BEFORE Jesus was born.
          So, CHRISTmas was celebrated before CHRIST was born.

          Amazing.



          YiC,

          Zech
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          • #35
            Re: Don't Light Candles This Christmas, It's Pagan

            Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
            So, CHRISTmas was celebrated before CHRIST was born.

            Amazing.



            YiC,

            Zech
            Your avoiding the principle of my statement. So I'll ask again: How is that fact undeniable, where is the proof?

            Also it wasn't called "Christmas." I may steal someones dog and name it betty, that doesn't mean it's not the same dog that was once theirs.
            Proverbs 6
            [16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
            [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
            [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
            [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

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            • #36
              Re: Don't Light Candles This Christmas, It's Pagan

              Originally posted by lolzomgz1337 View Post
              Your avoiding the principle of my statement. So I'll ask again: How is that fact undeniable, where is the proof?

              Also it wasn't called "Christmas." I may steal someones dog and name it betty, that doesn't mean it's not the same dog that was once theirs.
              Why should I believe an admitted animal thief?



              (Ephesians 4:28) "Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth."

              YiC,

              Zech
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              • #37
                Re: Don't Light Candles This Christmas, It's Pagan

                Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
                Why should I believe an admitted animal thief?



                (Ephesians 4:28) "Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth."

                YiC,

                Zech
                Are you a troll? Because your trolling.
                I never actually stole an animal, it's called a metaphor.
                I used it to prove a point, no animals were stolen, no dogs have been named Betty by me.

                Your not going to answer my question are you? Why?
                Proverbs 6
                [16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
                [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
                [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
                [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

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                • #38
                  Re: Don't Light Candles This Christmas, It's Pagan

                  Originally posted by lolzomgz1337 View Post
                  Are you a troll? Because your trolling.
                  I never actually stole an animal, it's called a metaphor.
                  I used it to prove a point, no animals were stolen, no dogs have been named Betty by me.

                  Your not going to answer my question are you? Why?
                  You come to our gentle, family-friendly forum, where we praise Our Lord Jesus Christ and talk about the KJV Bible, and you start mouthing off like some meth-crazed emo, and you accuse ME of being a troll?



                  If you have questions about the Bible, ask away. If you have questions about your fledgling criminal career, please look elsewhere.
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                  • #39
                    Re: Don't Light Candles This Christmas, It's Pagan

                    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                    Everything about Christmas is pagan? EVERYTHING??
                    Dear, stubborn Zeke.
                    Notice how I phrased it? I don't deny xmas is about jeebus, however the holiday itself, as I phrased it, is most certainly not.

                    How about the undeniable fact that Jesus was born on Christmas! Is that "pagan?" Why do you think it's called CHRISTMAS you stupid sack of sin!? It's not called "paganmas" is it? No! CHRISTMAS! As in Christ Jesus' BIRTHDAY!
                    Oh Zeke, dear Zeke.
                    Anyone who does even a little research will soon find otherwise.

                    Now let's look at Saturnalia. A pagan festival honoring the pagan god Saturn, a time to eat, drink and be merry. Fell from 17-23 Dec.

                    It was a pagan tradition in Mithraism to celebrate the birth of the sun, and celebrate with lights, as you yourself pointed out with the very creation of this thread. To celebrate the birth of the sun/sun god. On what day does this fall? Well how do you like that, December 25.
                    Guess what Dec 25 and that holiday was referred to as? The nativity.


                    Sweet Jesus, Van Hellfire, you've gotten dumber over the years, if that's even possible...
                    I think I just proved I'm not the dumb dumb here.

                    Check and mate, Zekey.
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                    • #40
                      Re: Don't Light Candles This Christmas, It's Pagan

                      blah, blah, blah. All of that can be explained away easily.

                      It is a well-established fact that your master satan went back in time and got the pagan hippies to pre-steal Christmas from Christ.

                      Well it won't work! You can tell Beelezebub that for me! We will ALWAYS claim Christmas for Christ. The rest is all heathen filth.
                      Who Will Jesus Damn?

                      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                      • #41
                        Re: Don't Light Candles This Christmas, It's Pagan

                        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                        blah, blah, blah. All of that can be explained away easily.
                        Ok, my dear Zeke. You say it can? Go on, explain it. Pretty much *all* historical records back up my arguments, and what back up yours?
                        Denial, dear Zeke, and a choice to ignore the facts.

                        But do you have any hard evidence disproving the facts I referred to? Why even the bible refers to pagan traditions around xmas.

                        But if you have any actual, non biblical evidence to support you, please do share. I'd love to see it.

                        It is a well-established fact that your master satan went back in time and got the pagan hippies to pre-steal Christmas from Christ.
                        Wow, so now Satan is also Marty McFly? Where did he hide the delorean? I do hope he gives me a ride!
                        Well it won't work! You can tell Beelezebub that for me! We will ALWAYS claim Christmas for Christ. The rest is all heathen filth.
                        Oh Zeke. Dear dear Zeke. Putting a saddle and tassels on a pig and calling it a horse won't make it a horse.
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