[John Creeser]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

That's just some quotes from a very well known book. Have you ever meet God and talked to him like you do to other people?

No friend, that is the inerrant and literal Word of God. And of course I haven't met God, we are all waiting for the Rapture!!! God speaks to me through prayer, just like he did when he had us (man) write the Bible.

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.

[Didymus Much]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

I'm seeking the truth and even take the words from many people. People I know or people I can trust...

Why do you trust them? How do you know they aren't lying to you?

...I have never said that...

Let's look at what you did say:

...So what's this in the first post then: "Sweden is not the only country in the world actively promoting people to become gay. They are however the only country who have Mr Gay Sweden competitions. Also they have a bi-weekly Stockholm Pride Parade where even a Gay Jesus is part of the parade! For those Europeans who live in nice countries where being gay is against the law they even host EuroPride!"?...

I understood that you were disagreeing with that. So I asked what you were disagreeing with.

...So you rely on a fantasy book that are over 3 000 years old, written by more than 50 different philosophers?...

I never said I did. The difference between us is that I've read it, so I know what it says. You just take other people's word for it.

...Then I can rely on The Lord of the Rings books Same thing but different story!...

Then you're even more of an idiot than these people.

Again, why haven't you read the Bible yet? Arguing about what it says while being completely ignorant of what it says makes you look like a fool.

[nhagyavi]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

No friend, that is the inerrant and literal Word of God. And of course I haven't met God, we are all waiting for the Rapture!!! God speaks to me through prayer, just like he did when he had us (man) write the Bible.

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.

Please answer me this: why does not God show himself after he numerous times says that he will show himself for the worthy or something like that?

Do you hear voices within your head when you pray? Do you have to think first what to do and then gets these voices?

Once again, only quotes from a very old book.

[nhagyavi]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

Why do you trust them? How do you know they aren't lying to you?

If they were lying, the lie will come out eventually.

Let's look at what you did say: ...

I understood that you were disagreeing with that. So I asked what you were disagreeing with.

I don't disagreeing to anything. If they want the Pride festival, then let them have it! They are people just like me and therefore worth as much as I am worth.

I never said I did. The difference between us is that I've read it, so I know what it says. You just take other people's word for it.

Yes. The only different between you and me are that you have readed the Bible and I haven't. That doesn't you a better person than me.

Then you're even more of an idiot than these people.

So you think that I'm an idiot because I want to believe in something that are written in another book than the Bible?

Again, why haven't you read the Bible yet? Arguing about what it says while being completely ignorant of what it says makes you look like a fool.

I haven't readed the Bible because I don't read any books these days. But when I did read books I didn't read the Bible because I wasn't interested in it. It's just yet another fantasy book and there's plenty of books in that genre.

[John Creeser]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

Please answer me this: why does not God show himself after he numerous times says that he will show himself for the worthy or something like that?

But God does show Himself every day friend. Just walk outside and marvel at His majestic creation, I am sure even Sweden has some tree's and flowers?

And I do not "hear voices" in my head friend, that would make me a crazy person

The voice of God leads our actions.

[Madmike]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

As a Swede, when reeding this, I feel compelled to point out all the factual errors in the text above. I was born and raised in Stockholm, Sweden. I was never baptised when I was young. My parents thought that that was a decision I had to make by my self when I grew older. And here I am today, 27 years old and still not baptised or a member of the Swedish church. I'm really thankful that my parents didn't force me in to a religion in such a young age.

Now to all the false claims in the "10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!" text;

1. Sweden as a country did not create IKEA. It was a Swede with dreams of cheap, yet high quality furniture should be available for everybody. The fact that IKEA produces more catalogs then you produce bibles it's not strange.
You have to accept that Swedish furniture is more popular then your Book of Jesus. And I find it hard to believe that there is anything satanic about IKEA.

2. You are right that Sweden is the only country in the world that have the "Mr. Gay Sweden" competition. It would be strange if another country had the same name for theirs. In Sweden, we find nothing wrong with people with the same sex falling in love. We also believe that if you love each other you can also marry. Love is love, and we are proud over that.

3. That Agneta Fältskog is responsible for Swedes having analsex is ludicrous. Let me remind you that the biggest porn industry is the American one.
People all over the world have had all types of sex for thousands of years. This is not the invention of Agneta.

4. The claim that Ingrid Bergman got all her roles due to sex. I find this hard to belive. Do you have a source for that?

5. The Swedish history of eugenics is nothing we are proud over. This was something wide spread all over the rich west and not only in Sweden. We realised that all people have the same worth and ended all the race stuff.
And Astrid Lindgren is not Danish, she's Swedish.

6. That men were castrated due for their race is unknown to me.

7. Suicide is not legal in Sweden. Therefor there are no suicide clinics here either. Even if you are paralysed and wish nothing more then your own death, the Swedish government will not help you die.

8. If porn is integrated in the religious activities, I shall emedietly apply for membership in the Swedish church. More porn for the people!

9. The conviction of pastor Åke Gren, is nothing strange at all. He was talking bullshit about gays in the name of God, and was therefor punished for it.

10. I agree that SAAB didn't make the best of cars, that's why the most of us drives Volovo's instead. We have one of the lowest death in traffic ratio in the world. We can thank our low speed limits and excellent driving skills for that. And in a country where it's winter 8 months per year, it's impossible and dangerous the raise the speed limits.

And by the way, You do now that you have a big Danish flag instead of the Swedish one in the text, right?

Hope you all learned something reading this.
Don't be shy to ask questions about Sweden, Swedes and their lifestyle.

Best atheist regards//
Micke

[nhagyavi]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

But God does show Himself every day friend. Just walk outside and marvel at His majestic creation, I am sure even Sweden has some tree's and flowers?

And I do not "hear voices" in my head friend, that would make me a crazy person

The voice of God leads our actions.

If now God created the trees and flowers, then he must even have created bacteria, insects, the air, clouds, lava, stars, the other planets in our solar system and other planets and galaxies in the universe, and so on. He must be lightning fast to create all this in just 7 days(?). World fastest creature that are even the most deadly and shyest creature of all times!

Please answer me this question: is it a lie to say that we are made of, among other bacteria and hydrogen? If this is a lie, can you please explain why it's a lie?

[Didymus Much]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

If they were lying, the lie will come out eventually...

When will the lie come out? When you find out the truth. When will you find out the truth? When you read the Bible.

...I haven't readed the Bible. But I have heard that it's a very good book ...

Would a good book instruct people to KILL disobedient children, anyone who follows a different faith (or none), and non-virgin brides who have been paid for (among many others)? The Bible does. Read it yourself and find out the truth.

...Yes. The only different between you and me are that you have readed the Bible and I haven't. That doesn't you a better person than me...

I never claimed I was better than you on that basis.

...So you think that I'm an idiot because I want to believe in something that are written in another book than the Bible?..

If you believe dragons, unicorns, elves, hobbits, etc. are real just because a book tells you they are, then yes, you're an idiot.

...I haven't readed the Bible because I don't read any books these days. But when I did read books I didn't read the Bible because I wasn't interested in it. It's just yet another fantasy book and there's plenty of books in that genre.

No other book has 2.5 BILLION people think that it's the word of God (that commands them to KILL witches, apostates, atheists, rape victims [and rapists, too, but only in certain cases], etc.). If you think that falls under the category of "just another fantasy book", then you are living in denial.

The Bible COMMANDS Christians to KILL people like you (if they don't, they're going to go to Hell). Anyone who says differently either hasn't read the Bible, or they're lying to you.

[nhagyavi]

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When will the lie come out? When you find out the truth. When will you find out the truth? When you read the Bible.

I have already find the truth

Would a good book instruct people to KILL disobedient children, anyone who follows a different faith (or none), and non-virgin brides who have been paid for (among many others)? The Bible does. Read it yourself and find out the truth.

So you want to kill ALL the disobedient children?! O.o What are you for something?!

If you believe dragons, unicorns, elves, hobbits, etc. are real just because a book tells you they are, then yes, you're an idiot.

Exactly! Dragons, unicorns, elves, hobbits, goblins, and so on does not exists! Either do God. Think about it; he have NEVER shown himself for us and yet millions of people believe in him. Other creatures like dragons and elves have NEVER shown themselves. Why? They do not exists. Just in our heads.

No other book has 2.5 BILLION people think that it's the word of God (that commands them to KILL witches, apostates, atheists, rape victims [and rapists, too, but only in certain cases], etc.). If you think that falls under the category of "just another fantasy book", then you are living in denial.

The Bible COMMANDS Christians to KILL people like you (if they don't, they're going to go to Hell). Anyone who says differently either hasn't read the Bible, or they're lying to you.

And there it comes ones more why I truly and deeply HATE religion!

[Didymus Much]

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I have already find the truth ...

How can you claim to know what the truth is about what the Bible says IF YOU'VE NEVER READ THE BIBLE?

...So you want to kill ALL the disobedient children?! O.o What are you for something?!...

Look under my name (at the top left of all my posts). What does it say there?

...Exactly! Dragons, unicorns, elves, hobbits, goblins, and so on does not exists! Either do God. Think about it; he have NEVER shown himself for us and yet millions of people believe in him...

So because we're never seen something, it doesn't exist?

Have you ever seen an atom? Black holes? Dark matter? Oxygen, hydrogen, helium, carbon dioxide? The future?

What about people who lived before the microscope was invented? They'd never seen bacteria, therefore bacteria didn't exist then?

...And there it comes ones more why I truly and deeply HATE religion!

Read the Bible. Please.

[nhagyavi]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

How can you claim to know what the truth is about what the Bible says IF YOU'VE NEVER READ THE BIBLE?

I rely on the things the researchers and astronomers find and telling us what they have found. They if someone can at least SHOW us what's going on and what's the truth is.

Look under my name (at the top left of all my posts). What does it say there?

So you was just joking? I really hope so.

So because we're never seen something, it doesn't exist?

Have you ever seen an atom? Black holes? Dark matter? Oxygen, hydrogen, helium, carbon dioxide? The future?

What about people who lived before the microscope was invented? They'd never seen bacteria, therefore bacteria didn't exist then?

Yes. I have both felt and seen oxygen, seen black holes and so on. But I haven't seen anything that can make God something to believe on.

The bacteria is microscopic and can therefore only be seen through a microscope. The people who lived before the microscope was invented, didn't believe in bacteria but now we can see it. Matter in fact, 99% of our body contains bacteria so we are 1% human. We can even set our self on fire if we meditate hard enough, because of the high amount of sulfur and hydrogen in our bodies.

Read the Bible. Please.

Why?

[Didymus Much]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

I rely on the things the researchers and astronomers find and telling us what they have found. They if someone can at least SHOW us what's going on and what's the truth is...

Which has exactly 0 to do with what's in the Bible, which is what this discussion is about.

...So you was just joking? I really hope so...

About the contents of the Bible? Never.

...Yes. I have both felt...

That's NOT what I asked. You're changing the subject again.

...and seen oxygen, seen black holes and so on...

You saw a colourless gas? What did it look like? Air?

You saw a black hole? What did it look like?

You've seen the future? What are Saturday's Lotto numbers?

...The bacteria is microscopic and can therefore only be seen through a microscope. The people who lived before the microscope was invented, didn't believe in bacteria but now we can see it...

But your claim was that if we can't see something, it doesn't exist. They couldn't see it, so if you lived then, bacteria wouldn't exist.

...We can even set our self on fire if we meditate hard enough, because of the high amount of sulfur and hydrogen in our bodies...

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA. Prove it.

[nhagyavi]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

About the contents of the Bible? Never.

Then I don't want to talk to you or any people that are reading the Bible and do what it says anymore. Good bye, murderers!

[Didymus Much]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

Then I don't want to talk to you or any people that are reading the Bible and do what it says anymore. Good bye, murderers!

Yet 1/2 hour later, you're still here (the little green dot beside your name is lit).

Can you not appreciate the difference between someone telling you what the Bible says and them saying it's the truth?

[nhagyavi]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

Yet 1/2 hour later, you're still here (the little green dot beside your name is lit).

Can you not appreciate the difference between someone telling you what the Bible says and them saying it's the truth?

I was waiting for a answer that hopefully proved that you didn't meant that you wrote earlier. Sadly, I was wrong

I can appreciate the difference but you can't. You are just too brainwashed to understand reality. A single fantasy book is not the whole world. The words in the Bible is not worth more than these words I'm writing down to you now.

Didymus Much; I am your father! You shall obey everything I say to you! Kill all those people that doesn't are on your side!

And yet you follow them -.- Can you see what I mean now?