Maybe Putin Did Not Poison That Jerk

[Johny Joe Hold]

Suddenly there is so much sanctimonious blather about Putin's enemy, Aleksei Navalny, being sick of apparent poisoning. He was quickly flown from Russia to Germany for medical treatment.

This accusation is ridiculous because it is obvious Navalny has enemies. This is the second time someone has tried to kill him with poison. If Putin was responsible for the first failed try the staff who failed would have been fired and better people put in their place. With Navalny still alive it is obvious Putin had nothing to do with this.

The Western World, including the U.S., needs to stop demonizing Putin. He is the President's friend and that makes him a friend of our country.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/21/opinion/navalny-trump-putin-russia.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Maybe Putin Did Not Poison That Jerk

Just consider the source - the New York Slimes (aka Fake News). The guy just might have eaten some bad Borscht - or it might have been the Salmon Mousse.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: Maybe Putin Did Not Poison That Jerk

Suddenly there is so much sanctimonious blather about Putin's enemy, Aleksei Navalny, being sick of apparent poisoning. He was quickly flown from Russia to Germany for medical treatment.

Well wouldn't that be a coup for the liberal agenda - a Russian democrat flying to the West to get "so-called" the best medical treatment. No, in fact Comrade Navalny was held in a Russian hospital to sober up.

He is a well-known criminal with many business fraud charges despite the fact those he defrauded say they were not aware of any fraud. That's the invisible power of the deep state plain and clear. Nobody will talk.

He is seemingly obsessed with Mr. Putin who he apparently has an (illegal) gay crush on and has spent his entire life in pursuit of him. For illegal gay sex, what else? He consistently polls at less than 1%. The whole think reeks of Obama's obsession with Donald Trump.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Maybe Putin Did Not Poison That Jerk

I feel that this sums up a lot of what President Putin is suffering.

It appears that anyone who looks as if he might have some ideas to help Mr Putin's Russia suffers some horrible accident.

Just as some football team must end up at the bottom, some world leader must end up with the most dead ideas-men.

Mr Putin is massively popular in Russia. He has been President, Prime Minister, and President again and is now set to be honored by the people for his selfless services by being made President for Life.

Politicians are popular, not when they sit in Ivory Towers and spout theory and good wishes in the moments when their faces are not in the feeding trough: They are popular when they reach out to the people, take the temperature of what is really needed, offer the people popular, imaginative, projects, and dismiss a corrupt establishment made of lazy, inflexible bureaucrats with their own agenda and appoint trusted servants untainted by the "Bubble". A model perfected by our own Mr Trump.

Mr Putin attempts to do just this have been cursed by unexpected deaths.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Maybe Putin Did Not Poison That Jerk

This accusation is ridiculous because it is obvious Navalny has enemies. This is the second time someone has tried to kill him with poison.

To be poisoned once may be regarded as a misfortune; to be poisoned twice looks like carelessness.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Maybe Putin Did Not Poison That Jerk

Not far from Bracknell is a road called The Devil's Highway. I was reminded just how unlikely it is that a poisoner (almost certainly employed by Beelzebub) would fly his victim to a German hospital? Surely the whole idea is that one's victim does NOT recover. And having shot your target down that highway even if he managed to board a Siberian aircraft it's pretty remote out there, even worse than Berkshire, would anyone notice a stray missile?

No, the whole idea is preposterous. They're a bit gung-ho over there from what I've heard and election campaigns get quite intense. Is it more likely that a candidate would be mixing up some nerve compound but make a mistake than that he would be targeted by someone with a solid majority already?

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Maybe Putin Did Not Poison That Jerk

I feel that this sums up a lot of what President Putin is suffering.

It appears that anyone who looks as if he might have some ideas to help Mr Putin's Russia suffers some horrible accident.

Mr Putin attempts to do just this have been cursed by unexpected deaths.

I agree. What good does it do any of us, either in Russia or the U.S., to speculate on who poisoned this whining dissident? Putin and Trump need to get on with their building of nations and not be bothered with this little diversion.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Maybe Putin Did Not Poison That Jerk

Probably I don't know what I'm talking about but it occurred to me that tolerating opposition is a sign of healthy government. Perhaps the eponymous president here represents the State rather than the Government (Russia also has a prime minister) but the point remains. There is a robust opposition in Russia and although sedition would not be tolerated they stand in elections and have political parties.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-15939801

[Mr Putin's] party currently controls 315 of the 450 seats in the State Duma

That's from when he was Prime Minister. The salient question: Who Controls The Other 135 Seats?

Answer: assorted opposition parties. Who else? Mr Trump tolerates assorted freak shows, communists, independents, they all get a guernsey. Anyone can throw their hat in the ring and citizens vote for the ones they like. The one with the most votes wins. Ancient Rome accepted dissent as part of healthy government:

John 19:4 Pilate therefore went forth again, and saith unto them, Behold, I bring him forth to you, that ye may know that I find no fault in him.

Jesus may have held dissenting views but clearly was not seditious. If He had been, would Pilate declare Him faultless under Roman law? Sedition and dissent are two different things. The Bible presents Israelites as thoroughly rejecting God, after which reason departed. The Romans moved in and squashed them. Again in the ancient world, Aristophanes wrote some pretty savage stuff and challenged norms.

http://classics.mit.edu/Aristophanes/frogs.html

[ATTACH]29427[/ATTACH][ATTACH]29428[/ATTACH]

Athenians and Romans had strong societies and robust political systems where new ideas could be discussed.
The trick is not to ruin political opposition but to identify sedition.