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  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
    • 78556

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    Liberal Red Cross Accuses America of Torture!

    I have always been suspicious of the so-called "Red Cross" because their name sounds papist. THIS latest story convinces me that they are on the side of the terrorists.


    Red Cross: America practiced torture

    Red Cross Described ‘Torture’ at CIA Jails

    The International Committee of the Red Cross concluded in a secret report that the Bush administration’s treatment of al-Qaeda captives “constituted torture,” a finding that strongly implied that CIA interrogation methods violated international law, according to newly published excerpts from the long-concealed 2007 document.

    The report, an account alleging physical and psychological brutality inside CIA “black site” prisons, also states that some U.S. practices amounted to “cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment.” Such maltreatment of detainees is expressly prohibited by the Geneva Conventions.
    [...]

    A copy of the report was obtained by Mark Danner, a journalism professor and author who published extensive excerpts in the April 9 edition of the New York Review of Books, released yesterday.
    [...]

    Danner said the organization’s use of the word “torture” has important legal implications.

    “It could not be more important that the ICRC explicitly uses the words ‘torture’ and ‘cruel and degrading,’ ” Danner said in a telephone interview. “The ICRC is the guardian of the Geneva Conventions, and when it uses those words, they have the force of law.”

    He discounted the possibility that the detainees fabricated or embellished their stories, noting that the accounts overlap “in minute detail,” even though the detainees were kept in isolation at different locations.

    Human rights groups echoed his assessment.

    “These reports are from an impeccable source,” said Geneve Mantri, a counterterrorism specialist at Amnesty International. “It’s clear that senior officials were warned from the very beginning that the treatment that detainees were subjected to amounted to torture. This story goes even further and deeper than many us of suspected. The more details we find out, the more shocking this becomes.”

    - Source: Joby Warrick, Peter Finn and Julie Tate, Washington Post, Mar. 16, 2009 — Summarized by Religion News Blog

    Tales from torture’s dark world

    On a bright sunny day two years ago, President George W. Bush strode into the East Room of the White House and informed the world that the United States had created a dark and secret universe to hold and interrogate captured terrorists.

    “In addition to the terrorists held at Guanta’namo,” the president said, “a small number of suspected terrorist leaders and operatives captured during the war have been held and questioned outside the United States, in a separate program operated by the Central Intelligence Agency.”

    At these places, Mr. Bush said, “the C.I.A. used an alternative set of procedures.” He added: “These procedures were designed to be safe, to comply with our laws, our Constitution and our treaty obligations. The Department of Justice reviewed the authorized methods extensively and determined them to be lawful.”

    This speech will stand, I believe, as George W. Bush’s most important: perhaps the only historic speech he ever gave. In his fervent defense of his government’s “alternative set of procedures” and his equally fervent insistence that they were “lawful,” he set out before the country America’s dark moral epic of torture, in the coils of whose contradictions we find ourselves entangled still.
    [...]

    What we can say with certainty, in the wake of the Red Cross report, is that the United States tortured prisoners and that the Bush administration, including the president himself, explicitly and aggressively denied that fact.

    We can also say that the decision to torture, in a political war with militant Islam, harmed American interests by destroying the democratic and Constitutional reputation of the United States, undermining its liberal sympathizers in the Muslim world and helping materially in the recruitment of young Muslims to the extremist cause.

    By deciding to torture, we freely chose to embrace the caricature they had made of us. The consequences of this choice, legal, political and moral, now confront us. Time and elections are not enough to make them go away.

    Mark Danner, a professor of journalism at the University of California, Berkeley, and Bard College, is the author of “Torture and Truth: America, Abu Ghraib and the War on Terror.” This essay is drawn from a longer article in the new issue of The New York Review of Books, available at www.nybooks.com.

    - Source: Mark Danner, International Herald Tribune, Mar. 15, 2009 — Summarized by Religion News Blog


    Red Cross report describes “torture” at CIA jails

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The International Committee of the Red Cross concludes in a secret report that the Bush administration’s treatment of al-Qaeda captives in CIA prisons “constituted torture,” The Washington Post reported on Monday, citing newly published excerpts from the 2007 document.

    The account of alleged physical and psychological brutality inside CIA prisons overseas also states that some U.S. practices amounted to “cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment,” the newspaper reported.

    The secret report strong implies that the United States violated international law prohibiting torture and maltreatment of prisoners, the newspaper said.
    [...]

    Many of the details of alleged mistreatment had been reported previously, but the ICRC report is the most authoritative account and the first to use the word “torture” in a legal context, The Washington Post said.

    - Source: Reuters, May 16, 2009 — Summarized by Religion News Blog
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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  • Nobar King
    Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
    Christ's Guardian
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2007
    • 23748

    #2
    Re: Liberal Red Cross Accuses America of Torture!

    Of course they are. Weren't they in Iraq treating Iraqi casualties?
    May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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    • barneyhilliard
      Forum Member
      Forum Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 96

      #3
      Re: Liberal Red Cross Accuses America of Torture!

      Of course they are the terrorists. Consider the Hurricane Katrina debacle. While President Bush and FEMA were working tirelessly to help the victims, the Red Cross was running actually shoving people's heads back under the water. There really should be an investigation -- but the Obamists will likely cover it up.
      HUNTING ATHEISTS SINCE 1989.

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      • Larry Lee
        Predestinated Servant of Jesus Christ by the Will of God
        True Christian™ Theologian
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2006
        • 4464

        #4
        Re: Liberal Red Cross Accuses America of Torture!

        It's understandable that a baby Christian might be shaken by the information contained in the Red Cross "report", but thankfully, the Lord gives us guidance in His Word on how to handle the kind of scurrilous accusations the Red Cross makes:

        "For many bare false witness against Him, but their witness agreed not together" (Mark 14:56).

        Exactly. Godly President Bush has already refuted the Red Cross testimony when he told us that, "These procedures were designed to be safe, to comply with our laws, our Constitution and our treaty obligations. The Department of Justice reviewed the authorized methods extensively and determined them to be lawful."

        Is there any higher witness than our President in these matters? I think not.
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        • Nobar King
          Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
          Christ's Guardian
          True Christian™
          • Sep 2007
          • 23748

          #5
          Re: Liberal Red Cross Accuses America of Torture!

          I watched the author of the NYT article about the torture, Mark Danner, this morning on C-Span. He went on and on with his America hating propaganda, denouncing the Godly Marines, and hiding behind the Geneva conventions.
          May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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          • Ezekiel Bathfire
            Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
            Christ's Rottweiler
             
            • Jan 2008
            • 22898

            #6
            Re: Liberal Red Cross Accuses America of Torture!

            The difficulty, of course, lies in the definition of torture. Basically, anything that makes the subject somewhat uncomfortable may be classed as torture. It must be extremely uncomfortable for mudslimes to be confronted with irrefutable proof that God loves America and that their entire lives have been given over to the worthless cause of the moon-god.

            We must regrettably accept that few mudslimes have the strength of character to admit voluntarily past idolatry, paganism and rejection of the Lord. In the few instances where the alleged discomfort has resulted in the subject experiencing a terminal situation, I’m sure that they were calling out for God and thus, in their sincerity, would be forgiven and reach heaven. As this is the goal of all right-thinking people, of what may they complain?
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            Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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            • Pastor Isaac Peters
              Senior Pastor
              Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
              Always Biblically correct
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2006
              • 10639

              #7
              Re: Liberal Red Cross Accuses America of Torture!

              So what? Remember how David treated the POW's in Rabbah:

              2 Sam. 12:31: And he brought forth the people that [were] therein, and put [them] under saws, and under harrows of iron, and under axes of iron, and made them pass through the brickkiln: and thus did he unto all the cities of the children of Ammon. So David and all the people returned unto Jerusalem.

              But God (Who is not a whiny liberal — praise His holy name!) didn't mind:

              1 Kings 15:5: Because David did [that which was] right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any [thing] that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.
              This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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