[Johnnyboy]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Now hold on there fella,

You people seem to preach that it was the fault of the parents that a child would be born handicapped! we are all born without sin. so how can you respond to that?

The trollometer is going off the scale with this guy.

[James Hutchins]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Ok Fellas your now dealing with Andy,

the question my brother was earlier asking, the catch 22, what if you were to have a child born handicapped. would you put your love to the child or hold true to your values and despise the child?

That was the question you people have yet to answer, and you cannot say you will never have a chance of that happening, because we all do!

This is not the same question your brother Vince stated earlier.
We believe if God hates it, then we shall too. What this means is, no special accomodations. Treatment is the same for all. If a person cannot take care of themself, they might die. God made them deforemed to die a slow death, so be it.

[branch]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Actually My brother did ask that earlier of you look through the posts. So you would allow an innocent to die? you people sicken me. for a church which God favours you don't cherish life do you? That's utterly disgusting. If I have a handicapped child I would give it all my love and make sure it was happy, not to let it suffer. You people are sick how could you agree to that!

[James Hutchins]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Now hold on there fella,

You people seem to preach that it was the fault of the parents that a child would be born handicapped! we are all born without sin. so how can you respond to that?

It is the fault of someone.

For a baby, it is usually due to the sins of the parents. It could also be due to the sins of a sibling, grandparent or even God just being PO'd.
When a person is crippled later in life, then the cripple may of sinned and there by felt the wrath of God if it was not brought down by others.

[James Hutchins]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Actually My brother did ask that earlier of you look through the posts. So you would allow an innocent to die? you people sicken me. for a church which God favours you don't cherish life do you? That's utterly disgusting. If I have a handicapped child I would give it all my love and make sure it was happy, not to let it suffer. You people are sick how could you agree to that!

You feel this way because you are a wreck of a human and would die in a month if not for your constant leching off of others. No pride in being a mooch.
God gives life, He takes it away. No biggie.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Ok Fellas your now dealing with Andy,

the question my brother was earlier asking, the catch 22, what if you were to have a child born handicapped. would you put your love to the child or hold true to your values and despise the child?

That was the question you people have yet to answer, and you cannot say you will never have a chance of that happening, because we all do!

Personally, I'd be heartbroken if my child was born incorrectly. I would know it was my own fault and it would be a sign that I had committed a horrible sin. Thankfully this is all hypothetical, since none of us here at LBC has ever gone against God's wishes in such a way. Yes, a cripple child is a sign you need to set yourself right with the Lord.

As for the cripple kid himself, of course I would love him as a father should love his child. I'd make no allowances for him, I'd treat him as any other child. I'd teach him the laws of the Lord, and that if he himself does not love and serve God he suffer for all eternity. When he does something wrong, I will punish him with a firm hand. I'd make sure he understands he is the way he is because of a divine punishment. Always I would make sure to pray along with telling him to pray to be cured, and if he continues to not be cured until adulthood, than it must be a sign God actually does hate the child as much as he hates me.

[James Hutchins]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Ah, HB, you said the same thoughts as I, but as usual, you say them in a softer tone. You have the gift. But I am a bottom line guy, straight to the point. I call a spade a spade.

[branch]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Yeah God does give is life, but you should as loving parents should show your love to that child and if it dies in its sleep, then thats fine, but to despise it and make it suffer. HOW DARE YOU! You people make me sick, I have had a near death experience as a child, but the Lord saved me and with my parents love I Cherish life. You are all disgusting no decent human being would agree to this, NONE! You are Not decent, YOUR BEASTS!

[James Hutchins]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Yeah God does give is life, but you should as loving parents should show your love to that child and if it dies in its sleep, then thats fine, but to despise it and make it suffer. HOW DARE YOU! You people make me sick, I have had a near death experience as a child, but the Lord saved me and with my parents love I Cherish life. You are all disgusting no decent human being would agree to this, NONE! You are Not decent, YOUR BEASTS!

We do not make people suffer. God does. I do not make my children sick when they have a cold. I do not toss them from a tree upon the ground and break a limb.
You nearly dying as a child was a taunt for your parents, to make them wisen up. Apparently, they did not, hence the CP.

[angels]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Yeah God does give is life, but you should as loving parents should show your love to that child and if it dies in its sleep, then thats fine, but to despise it and make it suffer. HOW DARE YOU! You people make me sick, I have had a near death experience as a child, but the Lord saved me and with my parents love I Cherish life. You are all disgusting no decent human being would agree to this, NONE! You are Not decent, YOUR BEASTS!

branch. My father is very ill. For a long time I pitied him.But pity is not the way to go. Maybe it's my fault my father is ill. But I am sure that pity and coddling is the wrong way to go.
You think the people here are hard. Have you actually read the posts properly?.
I am a decent human being, trying to live to God's will. The family here care. But sweet talking is not the way God wants us to be.
I understand though, the truth hurts doesn't it.

[branch]

Re: God Hates Cripples

God made them deforemed to die a slow death, so be it.

This reads to a NORMAL person, that you would do anything to help that child, that is a form of suffering or can you not see that simple concept?

[Professor Bessemer]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Son, why all the negative energy? We are only here trying to help you and your family reject your God mocking habits and come to Jesus!

Whether you are a retarded, a cripple, or you have been stricken with the cancer, God can Save you! All ills and deformities can cured by God when Godless sinners like you follow a few simple suggestions!

Constant prayers, diligent KJV 1611 Bible study, and generous tithing to God's favorite Church™ Landover Baptist always lead to miracles from the Lord! Praise!

[Meek and Humble]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Ah, HB, you said the same thoughts as I, but as usual, you say them in a softer tone. You have the gift. But I am a bottom line guy, straight to the point. I call a spade a spade.

I feel we must always temper justice with mercy. I guess I'm just an old softy.

[branch]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Oh Professor, this isnt negative, its a simple logic, all children deserve life and love, not left to suffer and die. And converting to your church would not do anything as I already believe in God and his Son Jesus Christ. so no point there.

I just cant accept how you people cannot show love and compassion to these people and give them a chance! I could never allow a handicapped baby, an innocent to die! Thats purely wrong, you would put all of your energy into helping it every step of the way, or am I wrong to do this? And Angel what's wrong with loving and helping your Father you cant just give up, how do you think he feels, knowing his own flesh and blood has abandoned him in a sense?

He doesn't Need God, he needs you. and that's all he wants!

[Meek and Humble]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Exactly, the crippled think they don't need God, when in fact God is their only hope