[Brother Temperance]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

I have serious problems with the title of this thread. Perhaps sometimes a man can impregnate his own daughters and there's no wrong-doing involved, but to simply sum the whole situation up as "NOT rape!" obscures the very real suffering of the many fathers who find themselves forced to impregnate their own daughters. I think we should all take a moment to stop and pray for all the poor, innocent fathers who find themselves the drunken victims of a vicious daughter-rape.

[Samuel Coleridge]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

I had come here to tell you how wrong you were, but for the life of me, I cannot find where it says you cannot uncover your own daughters nakedness.

Leviticus 18
4Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your God.
5Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.
6None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.
7The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
8The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.
9The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover.
10The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own nakedness.
11The nakedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
12Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman.
13Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister: for she is thy mother's near kinswoman.
14Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's brother, thou shalt not approach to his wife: she is thine aunt.
15Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
16Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness.
17Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.
18Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.


Surely, there is something against it.

[Mundwode]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Precisely. Also, you claim to follow the Bible to the letter. Yet just now you interpreted something which wasn't clearly said in the Bible. Lot may have been a just man, but that still does not mean impregnating your own daughter is right. Not unless it says so in the Bible, which it doesn't. We have a lot of characters who were just yet they did not impregnate their daughters, are we because of this to assume that impregnating your daughter is not right? No, because it does not say so in the Bible. But because it says Levicitus 18:6 "‘No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD." it is not right. Also if there was no opinion on the matter, then we would need to follow this:
Romans 13:1
Romans 13:2
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."

And in this case it would still be wrong.
Do not make assumptions, follow the Bible and what it says, instead. Only because you wish it said something you'd like does not mean it does.

[Samuel Coleridge]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Levicitus 18:6 "‘No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD." it is not right. Also if there was no opinion on the matter, then we would need to follow this

Yes, this makes sense as to why not. I looked and looked as to why your own daughter wouldn't be specifically mentioned, but I guess this is it.

I suppose all the rules must have taken place because of the places they were broken in the Bible?

6None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.
Lot's daughters.

8The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.
Reuben did this to his father's wife. Gen. 35:22

15Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
Judah did this. 1 Chronicles 2; Genesis 38.

18Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.
Both Jacob/Israel and Esau did this.

[Mundwode]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

I'm sorry, I'm not sure where you're going with this.

[Percival B. Perkins]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Precisely. Also, you claim to follow the Bible to the letter. Yet just now you interpreted something which wasn't clearly said in the Bible. Lot may have been a just man, but that still does not mean impregnating your own daughter is right. Not unless it says so in the Bible, which it doesn't. We have a lot of characters who were just yet they did not impregnate their daughters, are we because of this to assume that impregnating your daughter is not right? No, because it does not say so in the Bible. But because it says Levicitus 18:6 "‘No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD." it is not right. Also if there was no opinion on the matter, then we would need to follow this:
Romans 13:1
Romans 13:2
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."

And in this case it would still be wrong.
Do not make assumptions, follow the Bible and what it says, instead. Only because you wish it said something you'd like does not mean it does.

The United States liberal agenda has turned many astray here, Read that passage again:

Romans 13:1-2 1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

The United States is in a state of political flux for power, Rebellion as we know it come a long way from the ways of our confederate forefathers. Rebellion and resistance is not fought on battlefields anymore. It's fought in courts, in schools, and in politkill rally. This affects Real Christian Values in the home and loins of upstanding Christian Fundamentalist Men.

Accept the Lord in your home and know his power true. You will know it when you see the gleem in your 13 year old daughters eye as she breastfeeds your newborn son.

Now, about this DNA malarchy. The Lord is your Shepard, a good shepard tends to his flock. Haven't you ever been fooled by a magician?

Acts 13 : 6 And when they had gone through the isle unto Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew, whose name was Bar-jesus

Don't let some money-grubbing trickster with a fake abomination pull the wool over your eyes. The sheep was of the same mother, they fooled the lab results with mirrors and different stages of sheep fetus. The DNA theory is unproven.

[Beyondthesmegma]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Hahaha your not disproving DNA with that statement, in fact, your actually helping me by saying DNA is real...Thank you!

DNA has been proven. Cranky Old Man, are you also going to say that atoms and molecules don't exist too, just because you can't see them with your eyes? Is that how far your ignorance has taken you? Ignoring basic scientific facts, I see. Let me guess. I bet your going to say that germs don't exist, just because they can't be seen with the naked eye. Well guess what, let's assume by YOUR logic that anything that cannot be seen by the naked eye doesn't exist. So would it be true that God does not exist, just because he cannot be seen. You are a world class hypocrite. In fact, there is a thread on this forum about "gay germs".

I HAVE assumed direct control.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

I HAVE assumed direct control.

Don't be silly. I see God everywhere just by looking around. I have Bible next to me and God wrote that.

How about that direct control thing? You should stop posting while drunk.

[Beyondthesmegma]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Don't be silly. I see God everywhere just by looking around. I have Bible next to me and God wrote that.

How about that direct control thing? You should stop posting while drunk.

I have made fools of those on the forum. Their confidence, their resolve is gone. They must awaken and realize that their ignorance has led them astray. Bigots, like you, trick yourselves into believing that you are superior. In a world of almost 7 billion humans, will you existence matter? No. I have direct control. When I face your useless arguments, I see you are blind out of your own ignorance.

God did not write the Bible. Man wrote the Bible. Get back to reality.
Grow up.

I don't think a drunk person (like you, no offense) could type paragraphs in almost perfect grammar, much less use a computer.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

I have made fools of those on the forum. Their confidence, their resolve is gone. They must awaken and realize that their ignorance has led them astray.

Aw, thank you for your persecution. You are just so naive that it is almost cute.

Could you tell me where did my confidence or my resolve went? So far you have only made fool out of yourself. That is very common for teenaged girls.

You see, you think you have control of your life. You think that choices that you make are yours only to make. This however is not the case. Western society gives you little freedom to think that you have control, but that's it. I call it unique snowflake syndrome

You have to go to school, you have to go to work, you have to get money, you have to eat, you have to survive, you have to breath. You have to follow the rules set by the people around you. You can try to fight it screaming and kicking, but it is vain. You have zero control. World will just go on no matter what you do. You won't have any effect on world. You will be forgotten and no one will miss you. You are just one insignificant ant in Gods plan.

You think you are special, but fact is, even in these forums we see dozens of people like you every week. Even here you don’t have any control. You must follow our rules for posting, or you loose your privilege to post here. Most of these unique snowflakes are even much smarter than you and still they don't have any effect on anything, but Jesus has effect on them. Some of these people sees the light and comes to us after rough start.

Romans 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

It was Jesus who guided you here.

Yours in Christ,

Alphonse

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

DNA has been proven. Cranky Old Man, are you also going to say that atoms and molecules don't exist too, just because you can't see them with your eyes? Is that how far your ignorance has taken you? Ignoring basic scientific facts, I see. Let me guess. I bet your going to say that germs don't exist, just because they can't be seen with the naked eye. Well guess what, let's assume by YOUR logic that anything that cannot be seen by the naked eye doesn't exist. So would it be true that God does not exist, just because he cannot be seen. You are a world class hypocrite. In fact, there is a thread on this forum about "gay germs".

I HAVE assumed direct control.

You can assume what you want, you have no control. I think most of us who looked at you message saw such weak childish arguments that we just moved on to find someone more intelligent to converse with. The issue wasn't confidence or resolve it was just boredom.

YiC

Jack

[Percival B. Perkins]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

I have made fools of those on the forum. Their confidence, their resolve is gone. They must awaken and realize that their ignorance has led them astray. Bigots, like you, trick yourselves into believing that you are superior. In a world of almost 7 billion humans, will you existence matter? No. I have direct control. When I face your useless arguments, I see you are blind out of your own ignorance.

God did not write the Bible. Man wrote the Bible. Get back to reality.
Grow up.

I don't think a drunk person (like you, no offense) could type paragraphs in almost perfect grammar, much less use a computer.

Are you trying to prove sorcery like Bar-jesus? Have you counted all the people in the world to know theres 7 billion? I think an overal ignorance about God's plan has lead you astray. I will pray for your salvation.

[Beyondthesmegma]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Are you trying to prove sorcery like Bar-jesus? Have you counted all the people in the world to know theres 7 billion? I think an overal ignorance about God's plan has lead you astray. I will pray for your salvation.

It's called fact, smart one. There is an estimated 6.801 (almost 7) billion people in the world.

[María Gálvez-Villalobos]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

It's called fact, smart one. There is an estimated 6.801 (almost 7) billion people in the world.

I'm hope I'm no holding the wrong end of the point but
Ok, since you're so sex-obsesionate whit the sex and stuffs, 7 billions of people - came from how many esperms? Asnwer to that.
YIC Mari.

[Percival B. Perkins]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Originally Posted by Percival B. Perkins
Are you trying to prove sorcery like Bar-jesus? Have you counted all the people in the world to know theres 7 billion? I think an overal ignorance about God's plan has lead you astray. I will pray for your salvation.
It's called fact, smart one. There is an estimated 6.801 (almost 7) billion people in the world.

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

First you, clear as day tell me that there's 7 billion people on God's green earth. When confronted with the truth your facts change to suit you, just like Darwin confessing on his death bed it was all a lie. what does the word "estimated" mean? As a firm believer in Christ, I can tell you it means make believe. Only God knows.