[Serenity-Millennium]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

But you've never killed a man for praising you the wrong way, so that's where the similarities end.

When did God do that?

[Nobar King]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

I am not a part of the people's temple, but I love Jim Jones with all my heart, just like JESUS told me

How about Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma bomber? Do you love him, too?

[Serenity-Millennium]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Of course! Jesus said love EVERYONE! Sometimes I don't quite think I should love people, but I have to do what Jesus said...

[Brother Lazarus]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Of course! Jesus said love EVERYONE! Sometimes I don't quite think I should love people, but I have to do what Jesus said...

I think the best way to handle this transvestite homer lesbian commie pervert Serenity is to simply ignore it. Eventually it will get frustrated and go away. Hopefully to some Catholic forum.

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus

[Serenity-Millennium]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Oh well, I still love you!

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

I think the best way to handle this transvestite homer lesbian commie pervert Serenity is to simply ignore it. Eventually it will get frustrated and go away. Hopefully to some Catholic forum.

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus

I agree. It's futile to even argue with him/her. No matter how many stupid Biblically incorrect things he/she says, once you refute him/her with correct Bible verses, it doesn't "sink in". I've already done my part telling Serenity that God doesn't love everybody and shown Bible verses which support that, as well as other people doing the same thing, and this person just doesn't get it.

I am inclined to think Serenity is just some programmed Bot which spouts of randomly-picked phrases like "God loves us all!", and "Jesus said everyone is going to heaven". No sense in trying to argue with a bot.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

When did God do that?

See here.


Leviticus 10:1 And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the LORD, which he commanded them not.
2 And there went out fire from the LORD, and devoured them, and they died before the LORD.

Then, after GOD kills Aaron's sons for worshipping Him in a way He didn't specifically command them to:

Leviticus 10:6 And Moses said unto Aaron, and unto Eleazar and unto Ithamar, his sons, Uncover not your heads, neither rend your clothes; lest ye die, and lest wrath come upon all the people: but let your brethren, the whole house of Israel, bewail the burning which the LORD hath kindled.

If God kills someone, even for an apparently innocuous reason like worshipping Him the wrong way, and even if it's your son, and you get upset about it, He just might kill you too. Praise Him!
See also the story of Korah. You do know the story of Korah, don't you?

[Serenity-Millennium]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

I agree. It's futile to even argue with him/her. No matter how many stupid Biblically incorrect things he/she says, once you refute him/her with correct Bible verses, it doesn't "sink in". I've already done my part telling Serenity that God doesn't love everybody and shown Bible verses which support that, as well as other people doing the same thing, and this person just doesn't get it.

I am inclined to think Serenity is just some programmed Bot which spouts of randomly-picked phrases like "God loves us all!", and "Jesus said everyone is going to heaven". No sense in trying to argue with a bot.

I am not a bot as far as I know. You can find exhaustive arguments for my beliefs here: http://www.tentmaker.org/

[gospel]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

ur all nuts!!!! i dont play games but if u cant keep ur kids from playing these games, then ur piffleing pathetic piffle i dont care language ban me piffle piffle piffle ill drink ill do my wife in the¨+++foul language removed+++ and ill use birth control u psychotic sobs

[Wide-Open]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Another fine example of how tolerant "tolerant" people are.

[Nobar King]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

ill do my wife in the¨+++foul language removed+++ and ill use birth control

If I was going to stick my hoo hoo in her doo doo, I'd use a rubber, too.

[DrAbo]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

This game is for deranged moral perverts, no doubt.

No wonder I love this game!

[Nicholas]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Is it possible to separate real life from this game or does its inherent evil make it unplayable?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Is it possible to separate real life from this game or does its inherent evil make it unplayable?

That is the exact problem with this game. It is inherently evil and it forms inside the mind making it impossible to seperate reality from fantasy. When the Columbine shooters did their massacre, they honestly thought they were playing a video game.

What happens is repetitive playing of the game starts forming unconscious ideas that creep out into normal life. The person, if they are weak in the love of Christ, will be totally consumed by the video game. The video game becomes real and reality becomes a video game. This is essentially what schizophrenia is.

[timeshifter]

Re: Oblivion: Video Game Promoting WITCHCRAFT, SATANISM, & POLYTH

Ok, if I may point a few things out... and let me start with this. I was born on Fort Hood, to Christian parents. Moved to Virginia shortly thereafter (as in, before I was two), and from there on, I was a part of the church. My dad went to Bible school, and challenged many a pastor (and usually won). I know the scripture fairly well, and I feel that I understand what God had in mind when He tells us He wants us to follow Him. With that said....

You're a lunatic. Why? Let's start:

1) "It is a "Role-Playing Game" for the computer, very similar to the well-known Satanic Dungeons & Dragons."

"Computer", being a digital medium that provides easy access to *all* content, not just what you want. Bear that in mind. There are a multitude of Christian games available for the computer, as well. And D&D? Please tell me you're joking. This is a bunch of nerds with pencils, paper, and dice, and you're going to tag them as "satanic"?? This is role-playing, not Ouija. That's like me saying what you do for recreation is an abomination to God's will. Ridiculous, right?

2) "You can pick various "races" for your character, including several demonic looking characters called "elves". With their pointed ears and eerie non-human appearances, it allows children to pretend they are a demon themselves."
So Legolas was also a demon? If I recall correctly, Lord of the Rings was a story of great peril and tribulation against the evil of the world, a story of friendship, fellowship (you guys should be intimately familiar with that one), and the battle between right and wrong. You guys should love that story! I know I do, as does everybody I know. Also, wasn't it Jesus who said Jews and Gentiles alike were welcome into His kingdom? Also, "Man looks at the outside, but the Lord looks at the heart"? That ring a bell? Not judging a book by its cover? Any of this ringing a bell?

3) "The game is chockful of blasphemous magic and witchcraft."
Name one fantasy game that isn't. That's the point. It's intentionally set in a very different reality from our own. If you draw parallels, that's your problem, not mine.

"The player is able to perform a variety of spells such as hurling fire from one's hands, turning oneself invisible, forcing others' against their will to obey and listen to the character, and conjuring up demons from Hell to fight for the player."

Call me crazy, but I think the idea of hurling fire from my hands is pretty freaking sweet. "Forcing" others? Speechcraft, or in reality, would be known as "Are you a nice person?" Even in the game, Conjuration is considered a "black art", so why are you making a fuss? The game allows it, but by no means encourages it.

" In fact, magic and witchcraft are a major part of the game and it's difficult to play the game without resorting to these Satanic means."

Yeah, well, my character is an assassin (meaning I kill bad people that the officials are too scared to deal with), so my array of magic is fairly limited... mostly my magic is used to heal myself in the event my sneaking fails me. Doesn't seem so demonic, does it?

4) "The game makes no mention of God or Jesus Christ, instead it pushes a mythology of "Nine gods". You can go to heretical chapels and actually pray to these gods in this game and they heal you!"

Greek mythos has a dozen gods, and you're getting riled up over a game? Give it a few minutes, let the absurdity sink in.

5) "There is a realm called "Oblivion" which is definitely just Hell with a different name. You are required to go through this Hell environment during the game."
.....and destroy, because they're the portals of Evil into the world. Seriously. Do your research next time. Didn't Jesus descend into Hell to battle Satan for the keys to eternal life?

6) "Thieving and stealing are promoted in the game. You are allowed to pickpocket other people and steal possessions. One questline of the game actually REWARDS the player for this sinful behavior!"

Yeah, it's called the "Thieves' Guild" for a reason. Oh, and if you aren't careful, the guards will catch you and throw you in jail. Action, reaction. You do bad, you get punished. Again, sound familiar?

7) "You can do quests for these demons called "Daedra". By doing these quests, these demons reward you. This tells our children that by serving demons they will get rewarded."

What was your motivation to become a pastor? Based on your knowledge of your subject matter, it clearly wasn't the proclaiming of the truth of the Bible. Go to work. You do what your boss asks you to, you get rewarded. It's life, get used to it.

8) "Alcohol in the form of beer, wine, and brandy is available to the player and can be drunk."

I'm tempted to not even say anything, but I have to. Jesus turned water into wine. Alcoholic drinks were the only safe drink in olden days, because it was sterile. Don't drink to excess. HUGE difference from "don't drink". Communion: bread and wine. Don't even start with alcohol. You have less of a case there than any other point you've provided.

9) "This game promotes astrology. Upon creating a character, you are forced to choose a "birthsign". More occult ideas pushed upon the impressionable player."

Once again, you're making a big deal over something happening in a game, yet ignoring the fact that it happens even more in reality. Open your eyes.

10) "There are vampires in the game and a few of them are portrayed as "good guys"."

Once again, you're judging a book by its cover. You should know better.


In summary: Oblivion is an incredible game. If you knew anything about the work required to create such a masterpiece, you'd know that. I'm a professional programmer by trade, and I can tell you, I am absolutely astonished at what that game pulls off. And I completely realize that: it's a game. You people go crazy about my virtual realms, but don't even bother to fix your real ones? You are among the biggest hypocrites I have ever seen. Lucky for you, it isn't my place to judge.

Two more things:
a) "BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured"
*facepalm x2*

b) You can download The Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall for free! Legally! The series was so good, they're giving the older games away for free. Hmm...