[Nobar King]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

I was spanked as a child and it didn't hurt me. I don't have any pre-natal memories of discipline, but I'm sure I deserved it.

[new christian]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

Discipline has only become an issue in the last 10 years or so, strangely enough morals have dropped ten fold as a result.....

[Dirk]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

Discipline has only become an issue in the last 10 years or so, strangely enough morals have dropped ten fold as a result.....

I think the morals were dropped first, thus we had to increase the disciplinairy act even more!

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

Discipline has only become an issue in the last 10 years or so, strangely enough morals have dropped ten fold as a result.....

Although I agree with you that as discipline dropped so have morals, it goes a lot further back than 10 years. I would say it started in the 50's in the subcultures with the beatniks, became more mainstream by the late 60's and has just spiralled since then.

[biza the godmocker]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

Oh my gosh...
This HAS to be a joke. Please tell me you people don't really beat your wives and children. PLEASE. That's abusive and illegal. What's wrong with you? I'm literally crying at the moment because I'm terrified of you psychopaths.

It's true
In Sweden we have a law that you can't hit your children cause it's abusive and illegal. Go beat up someone in your own size.

Beating women? ''You don't hit a girl'' it's simple as that!

[Dirk]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

Beating women? ''You don't hit a girl'' it's simple as that!

A woman is not a girl, so your argument flaws!

[GOD=life]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

Go beat up someone in your own size.

That's illogical.

Once my children are my size, they'll have moved out and started their own families.

[Colbert Mcpherson]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

In Sweden we have a law that you can't hit your children cause it's abusive and illegal.

And look at what a godless hellhole Sweden is. Coincidence? I think not, you barely homonoid trash.

[Dirk]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

And look at what a godless hellhole Sweden is. Coincidence? I think not, you barely homonoid trash.

[I am not god :)]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

For the life of me I cannot understand why you would want to hit an unborn child. It is completey inhumane. You people disgust me.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

For the life of me I cannot understand why you would want to hit an unborn child. It is completey inhumane. You people disgust me.

The alternative is for the child to burn in hell for all eternity. Why do you want to do that to innocent children?

[I am not god :)]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

The alternative is for the child to burn in hell for all eternity. Why do you want to do that to innocent children?

You didn't answer my question. Anyway, why would you want to harm an innocent child before it has left the womb. I was of the belief that a baby is born without sin, into a world of sin. Why would you harm that which has no sin?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

You didn't answer my question. Anyway, why would you want to harm an innocent child before it has left the womb. I was of the belief that a baby is born without sin, into a world of sin. Why would you harm that which has no sin?

Did you read the scripture? Proverbs 23:13-14 "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell."

God is very clear here. Either you hit the child with a rod or it goes to hell. Since hell is a very bad place don't you think saving the innocent child from that is worth some effort?

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

You didn't answer my question. Anyway, why would you want to harm an innocent child before it has left the womb. I was of the belief that a baby is born without sin, into a world of sin. Why would you harm that which has no sin?

You've never actually read the Bible, have you.

Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Our conception is a sin.

Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Of course this is only before we are saved

1st John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1st John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

[I am not god :)]

Re: Start hitting your child with a rod 16 weeks before birth!

Did you read the scripture? Proverbs 23:13-14 "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell."

God is very clear here. Either you hit the child with a rod or it goes to hell. Since hell is a very bad place don't you think saving the innocent child from that is worth some effort?

If thou beatest him with a rod he shall not die? what nonsensical drivel is that? So if you beat your child he becomes immortal? surely immortality is a form of witchcraft, which sends you to hell?

Also it may very well say hit your child with a rod, but please direct me to the part where it says that you should beat a foetus with a rod. Yes by all means punish your child when he/she does something wrong, but why beat them from before the start of their life? That is abuse, not salvation.