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Default Day 82. 1 Samuel 13-15 - 11-27-2007, 07:04 PM

1 Samuel 13-15

We now get to one of my favorite sections of the entire Bible (KJV1611). Saul and Samuel. Think of them kind of like Arthur and Merlin (only Samuel is a prophet and not a hellbound wizard).

Today we get:

Jonathan smiting Philistines
Saul and Jonathan smiting Philistines
More Philistine smiting
Agag the Amalekite

1 Samuel 13

In Saul's second year of kingship...

2 Saul chose him three thousand men of Israel; whereof two thousand were with Saul in Michmash and in mount Bethel, and a thousand were with Jonathan in Gibeah of Benjamin: and the rest of the people he sent every man to his tent.

Jonathan is his son, in case you didn't know that.

3 And Jonathan smote the garrison of the Philistines that was in Geba, and the Philistines heard of it. And Saul blew the trumpet throughout all the land, saying, Let the Hebrews hear.

Jonathan smote an entire garrison of Philistines. He's a great leader and warrior.

This angered the Philistines, so they all got together to destroy the Israelites.

5 And the Philistines gathered themselves together to fight with Israel, thirty thousand chariots, and six thousand horsemen, and people as the sand which is on the sea shore in multitude: and they came up, and pitched in Michmash, eastward from Bethaven.

That's a lot of people. There must have been hundreds of millions of people living in the fertile crescent area at that time.

6 When the men of Israel saw that they were in a strait, (for the people were distressed,) then the people did hide themselves in caves, and in thickets, and in rocks, and in high places, and in pits.

Back then, it seemed that when you were scared of an overwhelming superior military force, you hid in caves. Perhaps, it's a regional thing, since that's where Al Queda hides these days.

You don't see our leaders hiding in secret bunkers on days when bad things happen, no, they are all out in the open, NOT in undisclosed locations, leading the fight.

7 And some of the Hebrews went over Jordan to the land of Gad and Gilead. As for Saul, he was yet in Gilgal, and all the people followed him trembling.

It's like those hippies during Vietnam running to Canadia.

So Saul offered a burnt offering to the LORD. Which when Samuel heard about, was quite angry.

11 And Samuel said, What hast thou done? And Saul said, Because I saw that the people were scattered from me, and that thou camest not within the days appointed, and that the Philistines gathered themselves together at Michmash;

12 Therefore said I, The Philistines will come down now upon me to Gilgal, and I have not made supplication unto the LORD: I forced myself therefore, and offered a burnt offering.


Saul doesn't seem to do offerings to the LORD well.

13 And Samuel said to Saul, Thou hast done foolishly: thou hast not kept the commandment of the LORD thy God, which he commanded thee: for now would the LORD have established thy kingdom upon Israel for ever.

14 But now thy kingdom shall not continue: the LORD hath sought him a man after his own heart, and the LORD hath commanded him to be captain over his people, because thou hast not kept that which the LORD commanded thee.


Once Samuel picked Saul to be king, it seems that he resented him from that day forward.

19 Now there was no smith found throughout all the land of Israel: for the Philistines said, Lest the Hebrews make them swords or spears:

Of course, the joos would have been Schmitt's.

20 But all the Israelites went down to the Philistines, to sharpen every man his share, and his coulter, and his axe, and his mattock.

21 Yet they had a file for the mattocks, and for the coulters, and for the forks, and for the axes, and to sharpen the goads.


So the joos took their stuff to the Philistine schmitts to sharpen. Today we still see that arms factories are some of the first places to be destroyed when you take over a land.

22 So it came to pass in the day of battle, that there was neither sword nor spear found in the hand of any of the people that were with Saul and Jonathan: but with Saul and with Jonathan his son was there found.


So the king and his son were the only two people with actual weapons. The rest went to war with pitchforks and axes, as though they were an unruly mob out to get frankenstein!

1 Samuel 14

1 Now it came to pass upon a day, that Jonathan the son of Saul said unto the young man that bare his armour, Come, and let us go over to the Philistines' garrison, that is on the other side. But he told not his father.


Apparently, even though he had already destroyed a Philistine garrison, the Philistines didn't recognize him.

6 And Jonathan said to the young man that bare his armour, Come, and let us go over unto the garrison of these uncircumcised: it may be that the LORD will work for us: for there is no restraint to the LORD to save by many or by few.

Jonathan is a good Godly young man!

Jonathan devises a plan.

9 If they say thus unto us, Tarry until we come to you; then we will stand still in our place, and will not go up unto them.

10 But if they say thus, Come up unto us; then we will go up: for the LORD hath delivered them into our hand: and this shall be a sign unto us.


So, Jonathan and his boy let the Philistines know they are there.

12 And the men of the garrison answered Jonathan and his armourbearer, and said, Come up to us, and we will shew you a thing. And Jonathan said unto his armourbearer, Come up after me: for the LORD hath delivered them into the hand of Israel.

Exactly what that thing is, we aren't told. Perhaps they were gonna show off their uncircumcisions?

13 And Jonathan climbed up upon his hands and upon his feet, and his armourbearer after him: and they fell before Jonathan; and his armourbearer slew after him.

So the armourbearer is a fighter and not just a guy walking around with a shield to protect the actual fighter guy.

14 And that first slaughter, which Jonathan and his armourbearer made, was about twenty men, within as it were an half acre of land, which a yoke of oxen might plow.

I'd assume it was like in the MATRIX, where NEO killed all those agent Smiths (or should they be Agent Schmitts).

This scared the Philistines, for some reason, and they started fighting each other.

16 And the watchmen of Saul in Gibeah of Benjamin looked; and, behold, the multitude melted away, and they went on beating down one another.


It was probably the guys who wanted to stay and fight versus the cowards who decided to run. Desertion back then was probably punishable by death.

Saul then numbers the people left, notices Jonathan and the armourbearer weren't there, and calls for the ark.

20 And Saul and all the people that were with him assembled themselves, and they came to the battle: and, behold, every man's sword was against his fellow, and there was a very great discomfiture.


They kept on killing each other. Like a civil war or something.

21 Moreover the Hebrews that were with the Philistines before that time, which went up with them into the camp from the country round about, even they also turned to be with the Israelites that were with Saul and Jonathan.

Remember, the joos are a pusillanimous group of people. They have a tendency to turn their back on God after a couple of days. When an invading army comes in, they are quick to ally themselves with them. But as soon as they realize THEIR people have the upperhand, they remember that they were joos all along.

The joos won a great battle that day.

24 And the men of Israel were distressed that day: for Saul had adjured the people, saying, Cursed be the man that eateth any food until evening, that I may be avenged on mine enemies. So none of the people tasted any food.

That's not a really good strategy. When fighting a war, it's best to have a full calorie load for the day and not be on some kind of starvation diet. That's why MRE's have more than 1,200 calories.

27 But Jonathan heard not when his father charged the people with the oath: wherefore he put forth the end of the rod that was in his hand, and dipped it in an honeycomb, and put his hand to his mouth; and his eyes were enlightened.

Well, looks like we are going to have an Abraham and Isaac situation here.

Someone then tells Jonathan about the curse.

29 Then said Jonathan, My father hath troubled the land: see, I pray you, how mine eyes have been enlightened, because I tasted a little of this honey.

30 How much more, if haply the people had eaten freely to day of the spoil of their enemies which they found? for had there not been now a much greater slaughter among the Philistines?


See, Jonathan knew that it's best to have energy when smiting, than to be running on fat stores.

31 And they smote the Philistines that day from Michmash to Aijalon: and the people were very faint.

32 And the people flew upon the spoil, and took sheep, and oxen, and calves, and slew them on the ground: and the people did eat them with the blood.


Eating with the blood, isn't that an abomination?

Leviticus 7:27 Whatsoever soul it be that eateth any manner of blood, even that soul shall be cut off from his people.

Yes it is.

33 Then they told Saul, saying, Behold, the people sin against the LORD, in that they eat with the blood. And he said, Ye have transgressed: roll a great stone unto me this day.

34 And Saul said, Disperse yourselves among the people, and say unto them, Bring me hither every man his ox, and every man his sheep, and slay them here, and eat; and sin not against the LORD in eating with the blood. And all the people brought every man his ox with him that night, and slew them there.


To make amends, they slew LOTS of animals.

36 And Saul said, Let us go down after the Philistines by night, and spoil them until the morning light, and let us not leave a man of them. And they said, Do whatsoever seemeth good unto thee. Then said the priest, Let us draw near hither unto God.

Hmmm, several of the other times that "seemeth good unto thee" is used, that means there's gonna be a raping.

37 And Saul asked counsel of God, Shall I go down after the Philistines? wilt thou deliver them into the hand of Israel? But he answered him not that day.

He was probably still pissed about the eating of the blood.

39 For, as the LORD liveth, which saveth Israel, though it be in Jonathan my son, he shall surely die. But there was not a man among all the people that answered him.

The people liked Jonathan. Saul, it seems, just wants to be adored by the people, but he always seems to mess up. Kind of like Clinton. He thinks he's doing a good thing, but he just can't get it right. Someone else always does a little better.

They then cast lots to see who ate on the day of no eating.

First it was Saul and Jonathan against the people, obviously it came up Saul and Jonathan. Then it was Saul versus Jonathan, and it came up Jonathan.

43 Then Saul said to Jonathan, Tell me what thou hast done. And Jonathan told him, and said, I did but taste a little honey with the end of the rod that was in mine hand, and, lo, I must die.

That's a real stand up kinda guy there. Knowing he broke the law and accepting responsibility. How many people today will say "I accept full responsibility" and then it's just a slap on the wrist, or forced retirement (General Betrayus). Meanwhile, his men are dieing!

44 And Saul answered, God do so and more also: for thou shalt surely die, Jonathan.

He couldn't just say, sorry, it must be done, he cursed him FURTHER.

45 And the people said unto Saul, Shall Jonathan die, who hath wrought this great salvation in Israel? God forbid: as the LORD liveth, there shall not one hair of his head fall to the ground; for he hath wrought with God this day. So the people rescued Jonathan, that he died not.

Saul probably resented Jonathan from that point on.

47 So Saul took the kingdom over Israel, and fought against all his enemies on every side, against Moab, and against the children of Ammon, and against Edom, and against the kings of Zobah, and against the Philistines: and whithersoever he turned himself, he vexed them.


PRAISE JESUS!!! Saul kicked ASS!!!

49 Now the sons of Saul were Jonathan, and Ishui, and Melchishua: and the names of his two daughters were these; the name of the firstborn Merab, and the name of the younger Michal:

The girls are important, remember their names Merab and Michal.

1 Samuel 15

Samuel goes to see Saul.

2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.

3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.


Genocide at it's finest. Not just killing of the men and women, but the infants, and ALL the livestock.

4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.

Why weren't those "men of Judah" listed in the footmen? I'll have more for you on that on a later date.

5 And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley.

6 And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye shewed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites.


Innocents were spared, PRAISE JESUS!!!

7 And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.

8 And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.


PRAISE JESUS, Saul almost did what he was told.

9 But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly.

Well, ok, he barely did what he was told.

God then said to Samuel.

11 It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the LORD all night.

Yeah, sure it grieved Samuel. He was an antagonist to Saul's kingdom from the day he anointed him.

Who does God repent to? When God says "I'm sorry" who does he ask forgiveness of? Why does an all knowing God, install someone as king, when He knows that He's going to not like the decision later?

Friends, someone asked if God could make a rock so heavy he couldn't lift it. It seems, God probably could, but then he'd feel sorry about it, and not fix it.

13 And Samuel came to Saul: and Saul said unto him, Blessed be thou of the LORD: I have performed the commandment of the LORD.

Sure you did Saul... Sure you did. As though you've EVER done anything right during Samuel's watch.

14 And Samuel said, What meaneth then this bleating of the sheep in mine ears, and the lowing of the oxen which I hear?

Sam says, if you did everything you were told, then WHY THE HELL DO I HEAR FRIGGIN COWS!!!???!!!???

15 And Saul said, They have brought them from the Amalekites: for the people spared the best of the sheep and of the oxen, to sacrifice unto the LORD thy God; and the rest we have utterly destroyed.

Saul, again wrongly, wants to make sacrifices and offerings to God.

22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.

Let this be a lesson to everyone. When God tells you to kill everyone and everything, you do it. God would RATHER, you do exactly what He says, than you do kind of what he says, and try to bribe your way with offerings and sacrifices later.

If God tells you to do something, you'd better DAMNED (under penalty of damnation) well do it!

23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

Samuel is a bitter man.

24 And Saul said unto Samuel, I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the LORD, and thy words: because I feared the people, and obeyed their voice.

25 Now therefore, I pray thee, pardon my sin, and turn again with me, that I may worship the LORD.


Saul asks for forgiveness. Samuel, doesn't give it. (Neither does God).

32 Then said Samuel, Bring ye hither to me Agag the king of the Amalekites. And Agag came unto him delicately. And Agag said, Surely the bitterness of death is past.

Agag is like, "why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends?" It's really easy to try to put the past behind you, when you've just seen everyone you know be killed.

33 And Samuel said, As thy sword hath made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women. And Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the LORD in Gilgal.

PRAISE JESUS!!! Modern military chaplains aren't allowed to carry weapons. REAL followers of the LORD have swords, and are ready and willing to chop up their foes into chunks!

35 And Samuel came no more to see Saul until the day of his death: nevertheless Samuel mourned for Saul: and the LORD repented that he had made Saul king over Israel.

Why did Samuel mourn for Saul? He never really offered any support to him. Why did the all knowing LORD repent?

So what have we learned today?

1. God will repent for making decisions.
2. Saul just can't do much right.
3. Dicing your enemies is a great tactic.

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Default Re: Day 82. 1 Samuel 13-15 - 11-27-2007, 10:54 PM

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So what have we learned today?

1. God will repent for making decisions.
2. Saul just can't do much right.
3. Dicing your enemies is a great tactic.
4. Follow all the Lord's commands word-for-word, don't interpret them. Trying to do what you think is right and following a loose interpretation of God's Commands is as bad as being a witch.


O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.


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3. Dicing your enemies is a great tactic.

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Default Re: Day 82. 1 Samuel 13-15 - 11-29-2007, 06:05 PM

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20 But all the Israelites went down to the Philistines, to sharpen every man his share, and his coulter, and his axe, and his mattock.

21 Yet they had a file for the mattocks, and for the coulters, and for the forks, and for the axes, and to sharpen the goads.


So the joos took their stuff to the Philistine schmitts to sharpen. Today we still see that arms factories are some of the first places to be destroyed when you take over a land.

22 So it came to pass in the day of battle, that there was neither sword nor spear found in the hand of any of the people that were with Saul and Jonathan: but with Saul and with Jonathan his son was there found.


So the king and his son were the only two people with actual weapons. The rest went to war with pitchforks and axes, as though they were an unruly mob out to get frankenstein!
Pitchforks, axes and coulters, Brother. The Lord's no fool:

"There is that speaketh like the piercings of a sword (Proverbs 12:18)."

The Israelites had Ann Coulter on their side, and thus their victory was assured.


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