[fritzc]

Actually the Bible doesn't condone slavery. These verses are out of context. Deuteronomy 24:7 If someone is caught kidnapping a fellow Israelite and treating or selling them as a slave, the kidnapper must die. You must purge the evil from among you. <<<inappropriate link removed>>>

[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by fritzc

Actually the Bible doesn't condone slavery. These verses are out of context. Deuteronomy 24:7 If someone is caught kidnapping a fellow Israelite and treating or selling them as a slave, the kidnapper must die. You must purge the evil from among you. <<<inappropriate link removed>>>

Hi sweetie, and welcome to our forum!

The Bible not only condones slavery but also gives very detailed instructions on how to deal with slaves, both Saved and heathen/foreign.

First of all, there is a big difference between kidnapping a person and selling him/her illegally, and between selling a person you do have the legal right to sell.

Here are the rules how to deal with a Hebrew slave:

Exodus 21:2-4
2 If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.
3 If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him.
4 If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself.

The seven year rule does not apply to women:

Exodus 21:7-10
7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.
9 And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters.
10 If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.

Neither this rule apply to heathen slaves, whom you own forever including their offspring:
Leviticus 25:44-46
44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.

It is also OK to enslave people captured during a war:

Deuteronomy 20:13-14
13 And when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee.

And going into more detail into female captives:

Deuteronomy 22:10-17
10 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13 And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
14 And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.
15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:
17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.

It is OK to beat your slaves unless they die within a day or two of the beating:

Exodus 21:20-21
20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.
21 Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.

It is OK to punish your slave even if he didn't know that he was doing something wrong:

Luke 12:47-48
47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

God commands slaves to obey their masters:

Ephesians 6:5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
1 Timothy 6:1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.

I hope that was helpful, dear.

[Alvin Moss]

Originally Posted by fritzc

Actually the Bible doesn't condone slavery. These verses are out of context. Deuteronomy 24:7 If someone is caught kidnapping a fellow Israelite and treating or selling them as a slave, the kidnapper must die. You must purge the evil from among you. <<<inappropriate link removed>>>

Fritz, from your aggressive ignorance, I must assume you are a public school man. I pray that Sister Basillisa has been able to be of assistance. Now, why not tell us about your time with Jesus and try to listen more than you speak. We will save you if we can, but it is difficult without your cooperation.

It is our rule that newcomers go to the introduction forum and tell us of your devotion to Jesus. We want to know your congregation, who your Pastor is and your credit score. We are friendly here and interested in fellowship with other Christians and those who seek salvation.

Good Bless!

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

I am trembling with excitement, Brothers and Sisters in ! In one more week Mr. Trump will be elected president and by this time next year we'll be able to own Biblically-appropriate slaves! always knows what He is doing, especially when He raised Mr. Trump up to save our nation!

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Mary Whitford

I am trembling with excitement, Brothers and Sisters in ! In one more week Mr. Trump will be elected president and by this time next year we'll be able to own Biblically-appropriate slaves! always knows what He is doing, especially when He raised Mr. Trump up to save our nation!

Thank ! It's been too long coming! Finally, a nation that honors Christ by honoring the Holy Bible in all Its glory!!!

[Anne Sayne]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Mary Whitford

I am trembling with excitement, Brothers and Sisters in ! In one more week Mr. Trump will be elected president and by this time next year we'll be able to own Biblically-appropriate slaves! always knows what He is doing, especially when He raised Mr. Trump up to save our nation!

I cannot WAIT!

[whiterules46]

I do agree 100% on everything that has been said on bringing back slavery..

Rev. Jim Osborne makes total sense..

..and I would not mind shaking his hand and pledging my support..


I know it would benefit this beautiful country a great deal, if slavery was once again started, and increased in the entire U.S.A. . The blacks could then begin to obey and serve the white man's needs once again, the way things were meant to be. They could then work the hard labor for their rightful masters, who, in turn, will make sure all blacks remain loyal and obedient. I love my country and want to see it flourish.

[H. Montague Worthington]

This is an old thread (2009), but a timeless subject. And I think it's clear that President Trump's resounding election is an emphatic mandate from the American people demanding the repeal of the 13th, 14th, 15th, 17th, 19th, 23rd, 26th and the immediate nationwide re-institution of slavery.

[Roland]

Originally Posted by whiterules46

I do agree 100% on everything that has been said on bringing back slavery..

Rev. Jim Osborne makes total sense..

..and I would not mind shaking his hand and pledging my support..

I know it would benefit this beautiful country a great deal, if slavery was once again started, and increased in the entire U.S.A. . [...]

Hello whiterules46,

How do you envision your life as a ¨slave¨? You do understand that such is your most likely role as unsaved trash (1 Peter 2:18)? Please be so kind to give us some insight.

Kind regards,

Roland

[Alvin Moss]

Let's not be hasty. Have we fully examined the effect on righteous society of constant exposure to Negroes and Negroe behavior? I believe that the effect of rap music alone would be more detrimental than all of the good effects put together.

[Brother Harold Porter]

Originally Posted by Alvin Moss

Let's not be hasty. Have we fully examined the effect on righteous society of constant exposure to Negroes and Negroe behavior? I believe that the effect of rap music alone would be more detrimental than all of the good effects put together.

That's the beauty of bringing back Negro slaves, Brother Moss. Once they are on the auction block, by January 21st, they won't be allowed to have any boom boxes or that awful gangster rapping music.

Nor will there be any tolerance for crack cocaine, sherm sticks or malt liquor.

Just an honest contract between the master and slave for hard work, and the peaceful evenings when the slave returns to his shack and feeds his wife and children with fried chicken, collard greens and red velvet cake or watermelon. Provided the rest of his family pulled their share for the day, of course.

It will be a new day when ALL benefit from fair labor!

In Christ

[whiterules46]

I believe in fair labor, and in the reinstitution of slavery, it is all so very clear, Brother Porter.. the way it is really supposed to be..that is the way to make America Beautiful Again!

thank you for being one of the voices of TRUTH