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  • #31
    Re: Hello.

    Originally posted by Can you justify that View Post
    Good question. Ever hear of the big bang? Again, I doubt it, so here you are;

    The big bang is a theory that a bunch of chemicals and materials in a huge ball, septillions of times bigger than the biggest thing you could imagine. It all exploded, and sent chunks of rock and chemical floating around the universe. Some chemicals formed and created stars, some stars died and created black holes, some things crashed into one another, halting the explosive speeds of some rock and material, and keep in mind that all this material is HUGE. So when one crashes into another, they slowly stop moving, some stars catch slow moving rocks in it's pull, and therefore creates a planet. Then other life forms, which were also in the big bang mix hit the planet, that say, was attached to a meteor, and created the life that we have today.
    Of course I have heard of the Big Bang. Of course scientists are always changing what happened during the Big Bang, just like all the other theories they come up with. Now Stephen Hawking is coming up with some other theory.

    The real truth is, God created the world.
    Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
    Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
    Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
    Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
    Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
    Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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    • #32
      Re: Hello.

      Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
      So you do not want to follow laws of religion. You said "That's also what makes Atheism such a special religion". So you do not want to follow any laws.

      Who are you, some James Dean type who wants to be a rebel without a cause.
      Not at all. I just like being free, not having to abide to any rules other than what you're expected to as the law states is much easier than having extra laws and having false hope for something out there and a good afterlife.

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      • #33
        Re: Hello.

        Originally posted by Can you justify that View Post
        Good question. Ever hear of the big bang? Again, I doubt it, so here you are;

        The big bang is a theory....blahblah blah
        That's all that needs to be said. It is MERE THEORY not a REAL ANSWER.



        YIC

        Mrs Phebe Dewitt.




        There's Jesus here,
        Just see what He offers me....
        Down here my sins forgiven,
        Up there a home in heaven
        Praise God, That's the way for me!!

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        • #34
          Re: Hello.

          Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
          Of course I have heard of the Big Bang. Of course scientists are always changing what happened during the Big Bang, just like all the other theories they come up with. Now Stephen Hawking is coming up with some other theory.

          The real truth is, God created the world.
          You act like there's something wrong with theories. Really, think about it. No God. No one to tell you how you were formed, what species you're defined as, in maybe some animal kingdom with millions of species of animals there may have been, there are many possibilities. Lots of things you don't know about. That's what theories do. If enough evidence is there to explain it, then it's seen as what it is as long as it makes enough sense. God isn't getting us anywhere. Science is. Eventually, with Science, we will be able to migrate to new planets and solar systems, and maybe one day conquer the universe with our species. Otherwise, with the belief of God, we're just going to rot here on Earth and everyone will die. Seems a lot better right?

          And no, that's only your opinion on how the world was created. You have no proof.

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          • #35
            Re: Hello.

            Originally posted by Can you justify that View Post
            Not at all. I just like being free, not having to abide to any rules other than what you're expected to as the law states is much easier than having extra laws and having false hope for something out there and a good afterlife.
            Now lets clear something up.

            1. You claimed atheism is a religion.
            2. You follow state laws written by atheists.

            Therefore you are following religious laws.
            Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
            Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
            Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
            Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
            Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
            Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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            • #36
              Re: Hello.

              Originally posted by Mrs. Phebe Dewitt View Post
              That's all that needs to be said. It is MERE THEORY not a REAL ANSWER.



              YIC

              Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

              God is just a theory, too. The only proof you have is how many people believe in him and the Bible, which could have EASILY been written by someone ages ago.

              If you haven't made the connection yet, theories help us understand life. Without science, we would be very primitive. Theory has helped us advance. Why don't you think about that?

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              • #37
                Re: Hello.

                Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
                Now lets clear something up.

                1. You claimed atheism is a religion.
                2. You follow state laws written by atheists.

                Therefore you are following religious laws.
                1. Definitions of Religion on the Web: A religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

                So yes, by the definition of religion, Atheism is a religion.

                2. Don't be smart with me, I meant I don't want to follow the rules set by OTHER religions, with Gods. Again, Atheism is a SPECIAL religion. You choose your path. There are no laws for Atheism, I was talking about the Justice System.

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                • #38
                  Re: Hello.

                  Originally posted by Can you justify that View Post
                  You act like there's something wrong with theories. Really, think about it. No God. No one to tell you how you were formed, what species you're defined as, in maybe some animal kingdom with millions of species of animals there may have been, there are many possibilities. Lots of things you don't know about. That's what theories do. If enough evidence is there to explain it, then it's seen as what it is as long as it makes enough sense. God isn't getting us anywhere. Science is. Eventually, with Science, we will be able to migrate to new planets and solar systems, and maybe one day conquer the universe with our species. Otherwise, with the belief of God, we're just going to rot here on Earth and everyone will die. Seems a lot better right?

                  And no, that's only your opinion on how the world was created. You have no proof.
                  I have proof God created the world.

                  Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth

                  As for your science theories, all they are doing is trying to prove how the world works. Guess what! It is proving how God has made everything works.

                  Did you know aliens do exist, they are just people who live illegally in a country. Not some other planet in some galaxy far far far away.
                  Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
                  Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
                  Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
                  Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
                  Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
                  Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Hello.

                    Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
                    I have proof God created the world.

                    Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth

                    As for your science theories, all they are doing is trying to prove how the world works. Guess what! It is proving how God has made everything works.

                    Did you know aliens do exist, they are just people who live illegally in a country. Not some other planet in some galaxy far far far away.
                    1. That's from the BIBLE. You can't use your own belief as your proof. You have to use something in which everyone believes in order for your point to be valid. That's just some text in a book.

                    Oh, but I guess you're right. It's true because some book says so.

                    2. It is most certainly not proving how "God created the heaven and the earth," it is proving how it REALLY was formed. You're implying the "Big Bang," which is a theory, is what God is, and that's all he is. If theories like that explain how God created everything, then God = Science and nothing more. Nothing less.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Hello.

                      Errr... Just because it's written in the bible that god created all, that means it's true? Humans have all the bad things in them like greed, hatred, etc. The bible was written by a human, right? So who's to say the bible writer was evil, and wanted to gain something by making a fairytale?

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                      • #41
                        Re: Hello.

                        Originally posted by Can you justify that View Post
                        1. Definitions of Religion on the Web: A religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

                        So yes, by the definition of religion, Atheism is a religion.

                        2. Don't be smart with me, I meant I don't want to follow the rules set by OTHER religions, with Gods. Again, Atheism is a SPECIAL religion. You choose your path. There are no laws for Atheism, I was talking about the Justice System.
                        You are just confusing yourself here. Now you say you do not want to follow your own atheist laws, because in doing so you would be following religious law.

                        If there is no law for atheism, then way is that to be an atheist you cannot believe in God. To believe in God would then be breaking your atheist law.
                        Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
                        Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
                        Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
                        Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
                        Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
                        Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Hello.

                          Originally posted by Moogitar View Post
                          Errr... Just because it's written in the bible that god created all, that means it's true? Humans have all the bad things in them like greed, hatred, etc. The bible was written by a human, right? So who's to say the bible writer was evil, and wanted to gain something by making a fairytale?
                          So you want to say that God Almighty, creator of the known universe, is an evil bastard?
                          Who Will Jesus Damn?

                          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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                          • #43
                            Re: Hello.

                            Originally posted by Can you justify that View Post
                            1. That's from the BIBLE. You can't use your own belief as your proof. You have to use something in which everyone believes in order for your point to be valid. That's just some text in a book.

                            Oh, but I guess you're right. It's true because some book says so.

                            2. It is most certainly not proving how "God created the heaven and the earth," it is proving how it REALLY was formed. You're implying the "Big Bang," which is a theory, is what God is, and that's all he is. If theories like that explain how God created everything, then God = Science and nothing more. Nothing less.
                            1. Using your own logic, since everyone does not believe in the big bang, then the big bang is not valid.

                            Have you ever looked at the chapters in the Bible. It is a collection of different sources. Like an encyclopedia. Again using your logic all encyclopedia's would be wrong because all the information came from the same text.

                            2. God does not equal science. God is the almighty, the creator of Heaven and earth. Science is not.
                            Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
                            Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
                            Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
                            Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
                            Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
                            Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Hello.

                              Originally posted by Can you justify that View Post
                              1. Definitions of Religion on the Web: A religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

                              So yes, by the definition of religion, Atheism is a religion.

                              2. Don't be smart with me, I meant I don't want to follow the rules set by OTHER religions, with Gods. Again, Atheism is a SPECIAL religion. You choose your path. There are no laws for Atheism, I was talking about the Justice System.
                              You miss the entire point. There's what you know and what you show. You get so wrapped up in words in some so-called science book that you miss the forest for the trees. You seem to think that valid knowledge only comes from the scientific method. What science declares as 'truth' changes all the time. The Revealed Word™ of the Lord God does not.

                              What you need to focus on is what you KNOW IN YOUR HEART. Why is that invalid to you? I'll wager that you have never once in your adult life dropped to your knees in humble supplication to the Lord Jesus Christ, opened your heart to Him, asked Him to enter your heart and life and take command. If you had done that you would immediately see how silly all your words have been. This is the open secret all True Christians™ know - and you can too.

                              I'll pray you take that leap of faith!
                              Leviticus 13:44 He is a leprous man, he is UNCLEAN: the priest shall pronounce him utterly UNCLEAN; his plague is in his head.

                              2 Kings 6:25 And there was a great famine in Samaria: and, behold, they besieged it, until an ass's head was sold for fourscore pieces of silver, and the fourth part of a cab of dove's dung for five pieces of silver.



                              King James Bible v1611

                              Good Enough For JESUS....Good Enough For Me !!

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                              • #45
                                Re: Hello.

                                Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
                                You are just confusing yourself here. Now you say you do not want to follow your own atheist laws, because in doing so you would be following religious law.

                                If there is no law for atheism, then way is that to be an atheist you cannot believe in God. To believe in God would then be breaking your atheist law.
                                Okay, sure, the "what makes you Atheist" is the only rule. Boo hoo. That's just the unspoken rule. Come on.

                                1. Using your own logic, since everyone does not believe in the big bang, then the big bang is not valid.

                                Have you ever looked at the chapters in the Bible. It is a collection of different sources. Like an encyclopedia. Again using your logic all encyclopedia's would be wrong because all the information came from the same text.

                                2. God does not equal science. God is the almighty, the creator of Heaven and earth. Science is not.
                                1. I wasn't saying the Big Bang was the proof that Atheism is the right religion. Don't put words in my mouth. And sure, okay, it came from a bunch of different people. But maybe those persons were just a group that was sick of the killing and convinced naive people to believe their story by writing a huge book. Think about that. Be open minded for once.

                                2. Thank you for reiterating what I said you were implying with your poor logic.

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