[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

[slice it where you like all you get is baloney]

You have no idea at all what you (or anyone else) might be talking about do you?

When the Japanese bombed Darwin (Australia) did the military decline to respond except on behalf of those who contributed most to the economy? Of course not! The Japanese were blasted into atoms. When they attacked America the outcome was no less certain. When Hitler attacked England did the Poms only defend the Queen? Not at all! Every guttersnipe every black marketeer every pimp & every milkman was equally defended. I know that. You don't. I didn't have to Gooooooogle anything. You so need to. Do you actually know what a Navy is? An Air Force?

No.

You don't.

Get a life.

Get out of mine.

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Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

You have no idea at all what you (or anyone else) might be talking about do you?

When the Japanese bombed Darwin (Australia) did the military decline to respond except on behalf of those who contributed most to the economy? Of course not! The Japanese were blasted into atoms. When they attacked America the outcome was no less certain. When Hitler attacked England did the Poms only defend the Queen? Not at all! Every guttersnipe every black marketeer every pimp & every milkman was equally defended. I know that. You don't. I didn't have to Gooooooogle anything. You so need to. Do you actually know what a Navy is? An Air Force?

No.

You don't.

Get a life.

Get out of mine.

ARRRGGHHH!!!!!

The rich have more to defend and protect!
Imagine you have some money with you and you wanted to buy protection for it. if you only had 21$ then a 20$ safe that was guaranteed to stop ALL of all thefts still wouldn't be worth it even if their was a 20% chance of someone trying to steel the money. If you had $10,000,000... then even a $100 with the same protection power would be worth it even if there was only a 1% chance of someone tying to steel the money.

Rich people have more to lose from theft and war, so protection is worth a LOT more to them.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

Rich people have more to lose from theft and war, so protection is worth a LOT more to them.

Nonsense, they all have 1 life. Stop focusing on money and start figuring out what is important in life! Jesus can help you with that!

John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

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Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

This is still biased because whether a person is rich or poor, they still get the same service. The government in your analogy would be killing (or whatever) the bandits in an equal way. So the service of defense should not be based on income as the action taken by the government is the same despite personal success.

A sliding tax is un-American as it punishes success and reinforces "enabled" and "privileged" living. Keep in mind, everyone who is rich was -- at one point -- poor (unless they inherited their money but that is completely irrelevant).

People with rich parents have a HUGE advantage over people with poor parents. Better education, private tutoring in subjects they have problems in. Little difficulty in affording college e.t.c.
It's not impossible, but it's very difficult to go from being poor to being very rich. It's quite rare, and many of the celebrated example are missing a lot of the truth. "6 rags to riches stories that are b*******" By cracked.

A everyone pays the same tax would even mean the US would go bankrupt. (700 billion of military alone, +160 billion interest!)
Or it would bankrupt the poor.
Jus to pay off the interest and the military spending a poll tax would mean each working american would have to pay out an amount equivalent to a third of the income of a minimum wage worker.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

People with rich parents have a HUGE advantage over people with poor parents. Better education, private tutoring in subjects they have problems in. Little difficulty in affording college e.t.c.
It's not impossible, but it's very difficult to go from being poor to being very rich. It's quite rare, and many of the celebrated example are missing a lot of the truth. "6 rags to riches stories that are b*******" By cracked.

A everyone pays the same tax would even mean the US would go bankrupt. (700 billion of military alone, +160 billion interest!)
Or it would bankrupt the poor.
Jus to pay off the interest and the military spending a poll tax would mean each working american would have to pay out an amount equivalent to a third of the income of a minimum wage worker.

Generally speaking, privately educated individuals do not have "subjects they have problems in" because they are not taught by PC communard relativists. The question of whether there should even be a US (or Australian or English) government has nothing to do with whom the military defends or how it is funded. All are defended equally. Criminals still get banged up in the joint. Prostitutes still get "business" and heathens still get to spout their nonsense.

Whether a State goes bust or some local Council sells off their lamp-posts on a (ludicrous) lease-back scheme has nothing - NOTHING AT ALL - to do with the military, and if for example Canada sells their roads to Australia and the Aussies sell their trains to Japan.. who cares? I don't! I'm absolutely certain that we can all make our own roads/trains/lamp-posts and if some meretricious junk politician thinks otherwise she can jump off a cliff any time with my full support.

Do you really think that if our secularist "governments" went down the gurgler we could not defend ourselves? Buy a tank. Come over here. See what happens be assured your future will get erased so fast you'll wish you were back in Pyongyang afrighted with a hell of ugly devils.

England

America

Almost two-thirds of the world's 946 billionaires made their fortunes from scratch, relying on grit and determination, and not good genes.

Fifty of these self-made tycoons are college or high school dropouts. The most famous billionaire dropout is Microsoft's Bill Gates, who finally got his honorary degree from Harvard University in June, 30 years after quitting the prestigious school to sell software. ''I did the best of everyone who failed,'' joked the world's richest man in his official graduation address. With failure like that, who needs success?

And finally, some heathen:

People with rich parents have a HUGE advantage over people with poor parents. Better education, private tutoring in subjects they have problems in. Little difficulty in affording college e.t.c.
It's not impossible, but it's very difficult to go from being poor to being very rich. It's quite rare,

No it isn't, it's quite common. More usual is the reverse path from riches to rags: such as is exemplified by this monstrous duet.

Perhaps you might compare the US welfare spend vs US military budget before posting further?

Yes, I would do so.

Nutter

[Father Maurice Lester]

Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

Perhaps America needs something to quickly solve her finance shortages.


I suggest a Fat Tax!


It will cut across socioeconomic lines and really help with health-care costs.


"If you ain't fit you pay for it."


This would also help promote fasting during Lent.



Can you imagine the tax bill Freehold would get?




Bless you, my circumferrentially challenged cultists,
Father Mo





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[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

Perhaps America needs something to quickly solve her finance shortages.


I suggest a Fat Tax!


It will cut across socioeconomic lines and really help with health-care costs.


"If you ain't fit you pay for it."


This would also help promote fasting during Lent.



Can you imagine the tax bill Freehold would get?




Bless you, my circumferrentially challenged cultists,
Father Mo





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How unusual that a catholic priest brings the subject around to estimating the girth of things!

As Rev. Flint pointed out God does support those who prosper and although I have no opinion about prosperity theology it is clear from reading The Bible that papist hegemony is receiving its just reward Jeremiah 10:21.

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Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

http://www.cracked.com/article_16989_6-inspiring-rags-to-riches-stories-that-are-bullshit.html

Bill gates is the first one.

Also, the thing is, rich people still have a large advantage. Like I said, better education, able to afford university.
When I got a D in my geography mock G.C.S.E, my parents got me lesson at a tutoring place. I got an A in the real exam. When they saw that at a young age i was very good at maths, they took me to a tutoring center to help unleash my potential. I got just under an A* when I then did my maths G.C.S.E at the age of 10.

People with billionaires as parents have a good chance of becoming a billionaire themselves. While for the average person it takes a miracle.

And in my example I have told you, a rich person has more to lose, so protection is more valuable to them. Would you pay more to have $50,000 protected then $50. Would you? And no, you're completely and utterly missing the point if you answer "Jesus will protect it".

[A Follower]

Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

Still going on about the rich needing more protection... Tell me why I see far more police in poor neighborhoods. Tell me why far more crime takes place amongst the poor. Tell me why so many more poor are criminals.

Rich people aren't criminals, nor do they get targeted by criminals because they are rich. They are rich because they are Christian, God provides for them and God protects them from crime. That's why there is far less police in rich gated communities than in the ghettos. And that's why it is unfair for the rich to pay more taxes when they get less police in return.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

IMMA NO GET A FREE RIDE AND OTHERS DO IT SO UNFAIR ME JEALOUS! WAAAAAAAAAA! ME SHOUT!

Someone here really needs a bit of manly Jesus love!

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

People with rich parents have a HUGE advantage over people with poor parents. Better education, private tutoring in subjects they have problems in. Little difficulty in affording college e.t.c.
It's not impossible, but it's very difficult to go from being poor to being very rich. It's quite rare, and many of the celebrated example are missing a lot of the truth. "6 rags to riches stories that are b*******" By cracked.

A everyone pays the same tax would even mean the US would go bankrupt. (700 billion of military alone, +160 billion interest!)
Or it would bankrupt the poor.
Jus to pay off the interest and the military spending a poll tax would mean each working american would have to pay out an amount equivalent to a third of the income of a minimum wage worker.

The bottom line here is that the more the poor are taxed the more likely they will be to vote Republican to keep their taxes low – and Jesus would like that. The more the poor sponge off the rich in income redistribution schemes the more likely they will vote Democrat – and Jesus does not like that.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

pay more

The point is that whatever someone might be prepared to pay, the actual protection costs the same (whatever a cop earns x 1). It doesn't take any more effort to shoot someone stealing a gold-plated Rolls Royce (even if it has the optional diamond encrustation kit) than it does to shoot someone stealing a 1¢ jelly-*bean on a skateboard.

Of course it's worth more to the Rolls Royce owner but it doesn't cost more.

*Is that racist? (I said "bean"). I've never seen a Mexican - we don't let them into Australia.
(although there's probably a few banged up on some island near by)
(but not TOO near)

[Bible Student]

Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

The point is that whatever someone might be prepared to pay, the actual protection costs the same (whatever a cop earns x 1). It doesn't take any more effort to shoot someone stealing a gold-plated Rolls Royce (even if it has the optional diamond encrustation kit) than it does to shoot someone stealing a 1¢ jelly-*bean on a skateboard.

Of course it's worth more to the Rolls Royce owner but it doesn't cost more.

*Is that racist? (I said "bean"). I've never seen a Mexican - we don't let them into Australia.
(although there's probably a few banged up on some island near by)
(but not TOO near)

To be fair Sister MitzaLizalor, here in the US it probably does cost more to shoot the Rolls Royce thief. This is why.

Most police officers here in the US are union members. Many of them are hugely overweight from all those donuts and coffee breaks. Since most municipalities are going broke here, the police cars are in severe disrepair. Now the Rolls thief has a much faster vehicle to escape in than the beanie guy on a skateboard. And unfortunately most police put in overtime to catch the Rolls robber.

I understand however that Freehold has solved these problems. I don't know the details because as you can see I live here far, far away from Freehold

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

To be fair Sister MitzaLizalor, here in the US it probably does cost more to shoot the Rolls Royce thief. This is why.

Most police officers here in the US are union members. Many of them are hugely overweight from all those donuts and coffee breaks. Since most municipalities are going broke here, the police cars are in severe disrepair. Now the Rolls thief has a much faster vehicle to escape in than the beanie guy on a skateboard. And unfortunately most police put in overtime to catch the Rolls robber.

I understand however that Freehold has solved these problems. I don't know the details because as you can see I live here far, far away from Freehold

Yes - thank you for clarifying the position concerning Rolls Royces. I noticed that their new 9litre V16 model is getting a bit more popular and I'd imagine it to have quite good performance.

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Re: Is a Flat Tax Unfair for Wealthy Americans?

The point is that whatever someone might be prepared to pay, the actual protection costs the same (whatever a cop earns x 1). It doesn't take any more effort to shoot someone stealing a gold-plated Rolls Royce (even if it has the optional diamond encrustation kit) than it does to shoot someone stealing a 1¢ jelly-*bean on a skateboard.

Of course it's worth more to the Rolls Royce owner but it doesn't cost more.

*Is that racist? (I said "bean"). I've never seen a Mexican - we don't let them into Australia.
(although there's probably a few banged up on some island near by)
(but not TOO near)

THAT'S NOT THE POINT!

There getting more out of police and defense because they have more to defend, which means that thier getting more value out of it.

To a follower.

http://www.theamericanview.com/?id=649

To WilliamJenningsBryan

Actually progressive taxes mean that the poor pay only a small percentage of their money, they would have so much to gain if they voted Democrat.