[Nobar King]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

All you need to do to see the light of God is pick up your Bible. Have you ever done that?

[Ao Saves]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

I have read parts of the New Testament, but the parts that appeal to me - and the parts that appeal to everyone, I think - are not the parts that I see being touted here. My question is not "How can I become a Christian?" because to me, that's not something I need to do in order to live a fulfilling life. My question is, "Why do you express so much animosity toward people who are simply trying to understand?"

To me, the fanaticism, the fire-and-brimstone, only serves to illuminate the Exit sign, and it alienates me from you. I believe that religion is designed to bring people together, not drive them apart. I don't see that happening here, and I have to wonder why.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

I have read parts of the New Testament, but the parts that appeal to me - and the parts that appeal to everyone, I think - are not the parts that I see being touted here. My question is not "How can I become a Christian?" because to me, that's not something I need to do in order to live a fulfilling life. My question is, "Why do you express so much animosity toward people who are simply trying to understand?"

Let's put it this way, Hitler picked and chose from the Bible.

To me, the fanaticism, the fire-and-brimstone, only serves to illuminate the Exit sign, and it alienates me from you. I believe that religion is designed to bring people together, not drive them apart. I don't see that happening here, and I have to wonder why.

If you were a TRUE Christian(tm) you wouldn't let anything stand in the way of you reaching Christ. Your' nature would be like ours, you would HAVE to be part of Landover Baptist.

[Nobar King]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

I have read parts of the New Testament, but the parts that appeal to me - and the parts that appeal to everyone, I think - are not the parts that I see being touted here.

Read: I haven't read the Bible, but I know which parts are best, even better than you.

My question is not "How can I become a Christian?" because to me, that's not something I need to do in order to live a fulfilling life. My question is, "Why do you express so much animosity toward people who are simply trying to understand?"

Who is trying to understand? I have to answer to ungrateful gothtards and atheists and defend my Church.

To me, the fanaticism, the fire-and-brimstone, only serves to illuminate the Exit sign, and it alienates me from you. I believe that religion is designed to bring people together, not drive them apart. I don't see that happening here, and I have to wonder why.

Which religion?

[Ao Saves]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

Let's put it this way, Hitler picked and chose from the Bible.

So did Mother Teresa.

If you were a TRUE Christian™ you wouldn't let anything stand in the way of you reaching Christ. Your' nature would be like ours, you would HAVE to be part of Landover Baptist.

How very Calvinist of you...

[Ao Saves]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

Read: I haven't read the Bible, but I know which parts are best, even better than you.

You misread, then. I don't know it very well, but what I do know talks about love, compassion, forgiveness. This is the core of every major religion, whether it be Judaism, Christianity, Islam, or Hinduism. Even Wicca is founded on the golden rule, "Do no harm".

Who is trying to understand? I have to answer to ungrateful gothtards and atheists and defend my Church.

It's a sign of insecurity to defend your beliefs by attacking those of others. Certainly there are trolls (who ought to be ignored, rather than provoked), but there are also numerous atheists and agnostics who simply want to have a conversation. Telling these people that they're going to hell, calling these people monkey-worshipers, stops that conversation before it's even begun. It offers no promise of salvation, only a self-important elitist condemnation of what is ultimately a preference for a different kind of hat.

Which

religion?

ALL religion, in design and intent, is at its core a means to bring people together, to unite people and comfort them, not divide them and incense them to slaughter. If you believe your religion is there to prove that you are better than everyone else, that it is an excuse to condemn, attack, or harm those who do not share it, then you are no better than Hitler except in the scope of your crimes.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

When I say "true agnostic", I mean someone who embodies fully what it means to be agnostic.

You embody fully what it means to be agnostic? Your life must be a sorry one indeed. When you get up in the morning, do you spend hours staring at an empty cereal bowl because you're agnostic as to whether you prefer cornflakes or Frosties?

I have read parts of the New Testament, but the parts that appeal to me - and the parts that appeal to everyone, I think - are not the parts that I see being touted here.

We "tout" the whole of God's Word; we don't mutilate His Message.

My question is not "How can I become a Christian?" because to me, that's not something I need to do in order to live a fulfilling life. My question is, "Why do you express so much animosity toward people who are simply trying to understand?"

You're asking the wrong question. Start asking us how you can become a Christian, and we'll be able to reach an agreement.

So did Mother Teresa.

And she's now burning in Hell. Praise Jesus.

You misread, then. I don't know it very well, but what I do know talks about love, compassion, forgiveness. This is the core of every major religion, whether it be Judaism, Christianity, Islam, or Hinduism. Even Wicca is founded on the golden rule, "Do no harm".

Can every major religion get you into Heaven? No. Only we can do that. Don't look at the supposed similarities between religions, look at what makes them different - the fact that we can offer Salvation through Jesus Christ, and all others fail.

It offers no promise of salvation, only a self-important elitist condemnation of what is ultimately a preference for a different kind of hat.

Friend, that hat can doom those who wear it to an eternity of unbearable suffering in the Lake of Fire. We condemn Beelzebub's hat for a very good reason.

ALL religion, in design and intent, is at its core a means to bring people together, to unite people and comfort them, not divide them and incense them to slaughter.

Stuff and nonsense. Our religion was designed by God to redeem sinners and give them a chance of salvation; all others were designed by Satan to mislead nitwits into voluntarily choosing eternal damnation.

If you believe your religion is there to prove that you are better than everyone else, that it is an excuse to condemn, attack, or harm those who do not share it, then you are no better than Hitler except in the scope of your crimes.

Friend, we follow God's word. Are you saying that Jesus was no better than Hitler?

[Ao Saves]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

Ah, I see the problem.

You believe it is better to follow the rules of a millennia-old handbook than it is to be a good person.

By all means, enjoy your afterlife. May it be populated with misers and lawyers, and not one saint. I'll take my kind uncertainty (and my bowl of what may or may not be cereal) over your bigoted fanaticism.

[JennyD]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

ALL religion, in design and intent, is at its core a means to bring people together, to unite people and comfort them, not divide them and incense them to slaughter.

Please demonstrate this assertion using Scripture.

In fact, demonstrate it using the Koran, if you prefer. You know, the Religion of Pieces?

[Ao Saves]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

The assertion isn't a religious one, but an anthropological one.

But I'm not going to get anywhere with you. You think it's a sin to question authority, which in your eyes already condemns me to an eternity of eating worms. I'm not looking to be brainwashed into this glorified Cult of God, and I'm not about to make Loving Donations to what amounts to the KKK. I'd tell you to have a nice day, but it seems to be against your religion to do so. So instead I'll tell you to go to hell.

From a non-believer, I imagine that's a compliment.

For the record, JennyD, I do know Pastor Ezekiel is a staff member. That's what horrifies me.

-Ao, out.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

Brethren and Sistern,
I revisited the title of this thread “Are You an Atheist” and Jesus planted a thought in my mind, A Godly voice (of well-modulated male tones and a mild Kansas accent) proclaimed unto me, “Bathfire, what if the Unsaved Trash and those who do not accept me, those who float like so many used condoms on the sewage pits of life, are embarrassed to take up Landover’s offer? What if they are ashamed that they have no faith?”

Thus advised, I cracked open KJV 1611 and the verse that faced me was,

M'r:10:14: But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.”

Now the unbelievers have the mental abilities of children, so the message was clear. We at Landover must make greater efforts to appeal to them at their own level.

• Use small words; do not confuse them with words like, “Anti-triclavianism” or “Supralapsarianism”
• Realise that they are of inferior intellect and easily fooled by interweb pages on “science so-called” 1Tm:6:20: O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
• Remind them ONLY AFTER you have gained their confidence that Jesus is going to kill the SOBs who don’t accept each and every word of His Glorious Preaching (Luke 19:27)
• I hesitate to say this, but use text-speech; you know use ‘4’ for ‘for’ and 8 for ‘ate’ – I can’t do this but you younger ones can – so do it. Pastor Bizzle-Rizzle (Is that his name?) in the GOP thread is a good example.

Listen up! This is Easter, a time of re-birth! Let the spirit of Landover be reborn! As The Word is God, let the Word be Spread!

PS Who let that cooter “AO Saves” onto these Godly boards?

[JennyD]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

The assertion isn't a religious one, but an anthropological one.

But I'm not going to get anywhere with you. You think it's a sin to question authority, which in your eyes already condemns me to an eternity of eating worms.

No, an eternity burning in the lake of fire. If you read your Bible, you'd know that.

You made a statement about ALL religions and their purposes. Please demonstrate this statement, using their foundational documents, not your Anthropology 101 liberal view of the potential function of religion.

Alternately, use your anthropology and demonstrate how any major world religion has unified a group of people without setting them apart as "different" from the "outsiders". In a genuine anthropological view, the purpose of religion is to reinforce TRIBAL IDENTITY, and separate US from THEM.

You know nothing about the Bible, about religion in general, or even about basic anthropology, yet you spout insults against Christians as though you possess even an inkling of comprehension.

Pathetic. Do your homework before you come back, little boy.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

Ah, I see the problem.

You believe it is better to follow the rules of a millennia-old handbook than it is to be a good person.

It seems that your idea about what it takes to be a "good person" differs from ours. We believe that the only way to be a truly good person is to follow the Holy Word of God, word-for-word, as He commands.

God does not change. If you have a problem with the Holy Bible, then by all means take it up with Him.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

You believe it is better to follow the rules of a millennia-old handbook than it is to be a good person.

If you mean that we believe that it's better to follow the inerrant Word of God than to follow trendy secular notions of what it means to be a good person, then yes, we do believe that. Without the Bible, how do you even know what it means to be a good person? Even the most cursory study of history will show that absent a firm grounding in the Bible, conceptions of what a "good person" is are subjective and ever-changing.

By all means, enjoy your afterlife.

Likewise.

[Sixtha (Quarantined)]

Re: Are You an Atheist?

You people crack me up, and amaze me.

It's hard to believe, I'm not going to question your beliefs (I've read enough posts on this forum to understand that anything I say is wrong, and anything you say is the absolute truth in the universe), there's no point in wasting time on that. I'm just going to speak my mind about what I think since the first time I saw this site:

I had a homework at school once, to read this book called "Anticrhist" from a german philosopher called Fredriech Nietzsche.
In that book, he pretty much criticized all religions, I'm not going to waste your time with a full review. What I'm trying to say is that the book was written in like.. 1900? 1890? And what I can hardly believe is that there's still people like you in the world, people who can't decide on anything else but the few pages of a book.

It's like you guys came from the 1800's or something. I tought the world was getting better. I guess there will always be these kind of people, anywhere humanity goes, the need to believe in something bigger than us, that watches us and protect us.

It's hard to accept a reality where you are completely alone in the universe. Don't blame you on that.

Cheers.