[Biologist]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Travelling around the globe is impossible, since the earth is not spherical.

The earth is round like a disc. So you could fly around the disc.

With that being said, it is totally impossible since planes cannot carry that large amount of fuel.

You say travelling around the world is impossible? How do you explain these:

http://www.roundtheworldflights.com/

http://www.earthrounders.com/

http://travel.latimes.com/articles/la-tr-spano24dec24

http://www.bootsnall.com/rtw/

http://www.wikihow.com/Travel-Around-the-World

[Lisa H]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

You say travelling around the world is impossible? How do you explain these:

Spherical earther links removed

Are you deaf! Did you hear what I said, I will repeat it again for you.

Travelling around the globe is impossible, since the earth is not spherical.

The earth is round like a disc. So you could fly around the disc.

With that being said, it is totally impossible since planes cannot carry that large amount of fuel.

You can fly around the disc of the earth. But a plane cannot travel that long distance because it cannot carry that much fuel.

[nogodbutanime]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I signed up just to reply to this thread:

1) Jump!
Now, scientists claim that Earth is spherical and rotating at a speed of between 700-1000 miles per hour, depending on your latitude. This is a very high rate of speed. You can disprove this nonsense by simply jumping up as high as you can. Really, it's that simple. What happens when you jump? You come straight down to where you were. But, if the Earth were indeed spinning at such a fast speed, wouldn't you land hundreds of feet away?

If you were to stand in the flat bed of a truck going 75 mph, and jump straight up, what would happen? You wouldn't fall straight down. You would fall out of the truck. That's because trucks move, the Earth doesn't. This experiment proves the Earth is fixed in space and doesn't move.

Ok. You don’t understand the difference between velocity and acceleration. Let’s change your experiment slightly to demonstrate the difference and ignore wind resistance:
Stand inside a bus (with all windows and doors closed) going 75 mph steady. Now jump! You will land exactly where you jumped. The reason or this is because your velocity, the buses velocity, and the atmosphere inside the bus are all going at the SAME velocity.
Now standing inside a bus (again, all windows and doors closed) while the bus is speeding up. Then jump! Now you will not land at the same point because the bus is accelerating (changing in velocity).

2) Blow!
Since if the Earth is supposedly a sphere, it naturally comes to assume what would happen to people below the equator, like in Australia? Since they are underneath the sphere, wouldn't they fall off? This is where scientists come up with mumbo-jumbo like "gravity" and "centrifugal force" to explain away their theories. So, the scientists want you to think that because the earth is so much more massive than people or things, that people will naturally "stick" to the bottom of the earth because of gravity.

This can be disproved very simply. Get a balloon and inflate it as big as possible. It will be a spherical shape. Now, take a piece of paper and try to rip, tear, or cut the tiniest speck of paper possible. This paper represents a human being, much smaller in mass to the balloon, which represents the Earth. Now try and place the small piece of paper to the underside of the balloon. What happens? It falls off!

That's right. Even though the balloon is so much bigger in mass, it cannot hold the tiny paper. So if the Earth was a sphere, no one could live below the equator because they would fall off.
Ok in this case, you do not understand what mass is. When you inflate a balloon, its volume increases but its mass remains the same. Volume is the “space” something takes up in the world. Mass is the amount of “stuff” something is. A solid rock has much more mass then a balloon of the same volume.


This experiment is not particle to do at home, but it has been done in labs. The proper way to do the mass is to hang a spring off something then bring a HUUUUUUUUGGGEEEE pile of something very heavy under it, like led. Now the spring will stretch sliiiiiiiiightly more.


3) Get High!
Ok, this one you really can't do at home, but you can do it out in the world. Stand on the ground and look around you. What's the farthest you can see? Maybe it's a building, tree, or mountain. Now, find some place very close to it where you can get a much higher vantage point. (This also works if you're on a jet and about to take off.) Notice how in the higher place you can see much farther? You can see more of the world the higher you get. This shows the world is flat because the higher you go, the easier it is to see over obstacles. At the same time, it shows the world cannot be spherical. Because if the world was curved, the far distance would forever remain out of view because of the Earth's curvature. It would eternally be over the horizon.

If the Earth was a sphere, it would not matter how high you went, you would still see the same thing. Since this is not the case, the Earth is flat.


These experiments are all confirmed by creation scientists as being 100% accurate. If you're skeptical of the flat Earth, why don't you do these experiments so you can see truth with your own eyes.

A lot of your assumptions are wrong there. I would just scrap this entire experiment, so for this one I have a very simple counter example.
Do you know anybody who owns a sail boat that sails on the ocean? I had a teacher in high school who owned one. Watch them go boating sometime, and they will go further and further away from you until they become hidden by the horizon. Now the water remains sea level the entire distance between you and the boat so there is nothing but the curvature of the earth to block your view.

QED

[Meek and Humble]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

blah blah blah

Too long, didn't read. All of these ridiculous claims have been already refuted repeatedly. I don't feel like repeating myself.

proofs the Earth is not a Globe

9. As mariners take to sea with them charts constructed as though the sea were a level surface, however these charts may err as to the true form of this level surface taken as a whole, it is clear, as they find them answer their purpose tolerably well - and only tolerably for many ships are wrecked owing to the error of which we speak - that the surface of the sea is as it is taken to be, whether the captain of the ship "supposes" the Earth to be a globe or anything else. Thus, then, we draw, from the common system of "plane sailing," a practical proof that Earth is not a globe.

10.- That the mariners' compass points north and south at the same time is a fact as indisputable as that two and two makes four; but that this would be impossible if the thing, were placed on a globe with "north" and "south' at the centre of opposite hemispheres is a fact that does not figure in the school-books, though very easily seen: and it requires no lengthy train of reasoning to bring out of it a pointed proof that the Earth is not a globe.

[Joe-XXXXXL]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Too long, didn't read. All of these ridiculous claims have been already refuted repeatedly. I don't feel like repeating myself.

All you had to do was read the last bit. The rest of it was just from the very first post.

A lot of your assumptions are wrong there. I would just scrap this entire experiment, so for this one I have a very simple counter example.
Do you know anybody who owns a sail boat that sails on the ocean? I had a teacher in high school who owned one. Watch them go boating sometime, and they will go further and further away from you until they become hidden by the horizon. Now the water remains sea level the entire distance between you and the boat so there is nothing but the curvature of the earth to block your view.

QED

Now go and reply to it again now that you've read what he said.

[Princess Nuada]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

So all the shows in Discovery Channel about the Earth is fake ? OMG I've been watching too much television .

Prince Nuada

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

So all the shows in Discovery Channel about the Earth is fake ? OMG I've been watching too much television .

Prince Nuada

Try reading the bible, hippie.

[BIG BEN WALLACE]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I signed up originially just to spread satan's wrath but then I see this thread and just have to reply in all seriousness.

1) Jump!
nogodbutgod:

Ok. You don’t understand the difference between velocity and acceleration. Let’s change your experiment slightly to demonstrate the difference and ignore wind resistance:
Stand inside a bus (with all windows and doors closed) going 75 mph steady. Now jump! You will land exactly where you jumped. The reason or this is because your velocity, the buses velocity, and the atmosphere inside the bus are all going at the SAME velocity.
Now standing inside a bus (again, all windows and doors closed) while the bus is speeding up. Then jump! Now you will not land at the same point because the bus is accelerating (changing in velocity).

This.

2) Blow!
There are two concepts you do not understand here: gravity and relativity.

First, gravity. The paper falls away from the balloon because the entire mass of the earth is pulling the paper towards it with its gravity. Newton's law of universal gravitation states that every massive particle in the universe attracts every other massive particle with a force which is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. The equation F = G(m1*m2/r2) can be used to find the gravitational force between two objects; where F is the magnitude of the gravitational force between the two point masses, G is the gravitational constant, m1 is the mass of the first point mass, m2 is the mass of the second point mass, and r is the distance between the two point masses. Crunch the numbers and the earth wins that fight every time.

Second, relativity. In brief: you (falsely) assume that north is 'up' on a spherical object and south is 'down'. We are floating in space where there is no up, down, left, or right. It's all relative to the observers perspective.

3) Get High!

Here is an easy experiment. Fly in an airplane and look out a window. One can actually see the curvature of the earth.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Here is an easy experiment. Fly in an airplane and look out a window. One can actually see the curvature of the earth.

That is an optical illusion caused by the airplane window. If you open up the window and look outside without it, you can clearly see Earth is flat.

[GOD=life]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

There are two concepts you do not understand here: gravity and relativity.

You are the one who doesn't understand. Gravity is fictional and has never been observed or proven. The force that keeps everything on earth is called "intelligent pulling".

First, gravity. The paper falls away from the balloon because the entire mass of the earth is pulling the paper towards it with its gravity.

Then put both of them on a flat surface. Or how about if we have a bowling ball and a marble on the same flat surface? According to Newtonian Physics, there should be sideways movement as result of attraction between the two objects. Earth's gravity has no effect because that only exerts a downward component which is negated by the surface. And yet, countless experiments confirm that they do NOT move toward eachother. Thus, we disprove that gravity exists to keep us on earth.

The equation F = G(m1*m2/r2) can be used to find the gravitational force between two objects

Okay, let's do it your way. In that formula, you have to take the distance between centers of the objects. That means that 'r2' is the radius of earth, or 6378.1 km. The mass of the earth is 5.9742 × 10^24 kg. G, the gravitational constant, is: 6.67428 x 10^-11 m^3 kg^-1 s^-2. Let's run the numbers then for an object on the surface of the earth: we arrive at approximately 62.500 N/kg!!

We can survive maybe up to 20 N/kg, not much more! But your formula arrives at 300x as much.

Maybe you need to go back to school........... ?

[Lisa H]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Here is an easy experiment. Fly in an airplane and look out a window. One can actually see the curvature of the earth.

I have, and there is no curvature. Next time you fly avoid the drinks trolley.

[nogodbutanime]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Okay, let's do it your way. In that formula, you have to take the distance between centers of the objects. That means that 'r2' is the radius of earth, or 6378.1 km. The mass of the earth is 5.9742 × 10^24 kg. G, the gravitational constant, is: 6.67428 x 10^-11 m^3 kg^-1 s^-2. Let's run the numbers then for an object on the surface of the earth: we arrive at approximately 62.500 N/kg!!

We can survive maybe up to 20 N/kg, not much more! But your formula arrives at 300x as much.

Maybe you need to go back to school........... ?

uhhhhhhhhhhh your math sucks.

for one, its not r2 its r^2. and r is in meters.

F = G M m / r^2

divide both sides by little m

F/m = a = G M / r^2

M is in kg, and r is in meters.

btw 62.5 is only tree times as much as 20 N/kg or m/s^2

[Lisa H]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

uhhhhhhhhhhh your math sucks.

for one, its not r2 its r^2. and r is in meters.

F = G M m / r^2

divide both sides by little m

F/m = a = G M / r^2

M is in kg, and r is in meters.

btw 62.5 is only tree times as much as 20 N/kg or m/s^2

Does not alter the fact the earth is flat.

[GOD=life]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

uhhhhhhhhhhh your math sucks.

You're right, I made one minor mistake: I wrote 62.500 where it should have been 62,500. Dot, comma. Tomato, tomato.

F = G M m / r^2

Aha, now you're suddenly changing the formula to suit your argument! According to your logic, the original formula would have been: F = G(m^1 * m^2 / r^2) or F = G * m^3 / r^2, where you presumably take the mass of the biggest object because the smaller one is negligible in comparison.

But really, that's typical for pseudo-science: change the formula to suit whatever you want to "prove". The Bible never changes, nor does it have to.

btw 62.5 is only tree times as much as 20 N/kg or m/s^2

See explanation above.

You did prove one thing: on a spherical earth, the gravitational pull would be so great that something would be flat: us.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

@nogodbutanime

Gravity is garbage. It was only invented by people who falsely claimed the Earth was a sphere, so as to cover up the fact that people would otherwise fall off.

If you take a sphere of jello, it will collapse into a flat circle. If there were gravity, the Earth would become flat - therefore even inventing gravity confirms the Earth MUST be flat.

Happy Christmas, sinner.