[Joe-XXXXXL]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

2) Blow!
Since if the Earth is supposedly a sphere, it naturally comes to assume what would happen to people below the equator, like in Australia? Since they are underneath the sphere, wouldn't they fall off? This is where scientists come up with mumbo-jumbo like "gravity" and "centrifugal force" to explain away their theories. So, the scientists want you to think that because the earth is so much more massive than people or things, that people will naturally "stick" to the bottom of the earth because of gravity.

This can be disproved very simply. Get a balloon and inflate it as big as possible. It will be a spherical shape. Now, take a piece of paper and try to rip, tear, or cut the tiniest speck of paper possible. This paper represents a human being, much smaller in mass to the balloon, which represents the Earth. Now try and place the small piece of paper to the underside of the balloon. What happens? It falls off!

That's right. Even though the balloon is so much bigger in mass, it cannot hold the tiny paper. So if the Earth was a sphere, no one could live below the equator because they would fall off.

Your forgetting that the paper is still close to the earth, therefore the paper will still be affected by the Earth's gravity.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

OK, go up a tall building and do the experiment; the paper will be proportionally nearer the balloon than the earth.

[proving myself wrong]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

We know the Earth is flat because the Bible tells us so. But for those of you skeptical, close-minded types that flat out refuse to accept the overwhelming Biblical evidence, I have designed some experiments you can do at home that will show you, before your very eyes, that the world is indeed flat, and not spherical as some crazy scientists proclaim. It's amazing how many people blindly believe in a spherical Earth, without ever having seen it for themselves! I intend to change that.


1) Jump!
Now, scientists claim that Earth is spherical and rotating at a speed of between 700-1000 miles per hour, depending on your latitude. This is a very high rate of speed. You can disprove this nonsense by simply jumping up as high as you can. Really, it's that simple. What happens when you jump? You come straight down to where you were. But, if the Earth were indeed spinning at such a fast speed, wouldn't you land hundreds of feet away?

If you were to stand in the flat bed of a truck going 75 mph, and jump straight up, what would happen? You wouldn't fall straight down. You would fall out of the truck. That's because trucks move, the Earth doesn't. This experiment proves the Earth is fixed in space and doesn't move.


2) Blow!
Since if the Earth is supposedly a sphere, it naturally comes to assume what would happen to people below the equator, like in Australia? Since they are underneath the sphere, wouldn't they fall off? This is where scientists come up with mumbo-jumbo like "gravity" and "centrifugal force" to explain away their theories. So, the scientists want you to think that because the earth is so much more massive than people or things, that people will naturally "stick" to the bottom of the earth because of gravity.

This can be disproved very simply. Get a balloon and inflate it as big as possible. It will be a spherical shape. Now, take a piece of paper and try to rip, tear, or cut the tiniest speck of paper possible. This paper represents a human being, much smaller in mass to the balloon, which represents the Earth. Now try and place the small piece of paper to the underside of the balloon. What happens? It falls off!

That's right. Even though the balloon is so much bigger in mass, it cannot hold the tiny paper. So if the Earth was a sphere, no one could live below the equator because they would fall off.


3) Get High!
Ok, this one you really can't do at home, but you can do it out in the world. Stand on the ground and look around you. What's the farthest you can see? Maybe it's a building, tree, or mountain. Now, find some place very close to it where you can get a much higher vantage point. (This also works if you're on a jet and about to take off.) Notice how in the higher place you can see much farther? You can see more of the world the higher you get. This shows the world is flat because the higher you go, the easier it is to see over obstacles. At the same time, it shows the world cannot be spherical. Because if the world was curved, the far distance would forever remain out of view because of the Earth's curvature. It would eternally be over the horizon.

If the Earth was a sphere, it would not matter how high you went, you would still see the same thing. Since this is not the case, the Earth is flat.


These experiments are all confirmed by creation scientists as being 100% accurate. If you're skeptical of the flat Earth, why don't you do these experiments so you can see truth with your own eyes.

Yours in Christ,

Rev. Jim Osborne

This is a question that has been asked for many years, and there are some very intuitive, and some not-so-intuitive answers.

To start with... there's a horizon, meaning that the surface that one is observing from is not an infinite plane. On the clearest of days, the only restriction to one's range of sight is the horizon. There can be two explanations for this - one, that the Earth at some point just stops, as if you were looking off the edge of a table. The other is that the Earth is round. Hundreds of years ago, before the invention of the compass or sextant, precise navigation for ships was difficult, even with the stars. Ships that ventured past sight of land were often lost, and thus it was generally believed that the world simply *stopped* at the end of the horizon. With the invention of the compass, and improved map-making, people began to dare more, and with the return of Columbus from his trans-Atlantic voyage, the concept of the Earth as flat was shattered.

Further proof of the Earth being round came after the voyage of Columbus. When Newton discovered and measured the force of gravity, that number could then be tested anywhere the theory was known. Since the force of gravity is roughly the same everywhere on the globe, it could be surmised that the Earth must be spherical. If the Earth were not round, whole hemispheres would have different atmospheric pressure and significantly different sea levels. Also, pictures taken of the Earth in the last 50 years have proved absolutely conclusively that the Earth is round. These are just the arguments that don't require much physics knowledge to explain, there are others that are more technical, but I think that the simplest arguments are the best.

Answered by: Frank DiBonaventuro, B.S., Physics grad, The Citadel, Air Force officer


(1) Departing boats gradually sink below the horizon, as do buildings on the shore from the viewpoint of the sailors. Admittedly this only proves the earth is round right where you are — the frisbee hypothesis.


(2) "The sphericity of the earth is proved by the evidence of … lunar eclipses," Aristotle says. "For whereas in the monthly phases of the moon the segments are of all sorts — straight, gibbous [convex], crescent — in eclipses the dividing line is always rounded. Consequently, if the eclipse is due to the interposition of the earth, the rounded line results from its spherical shape" Of course a frisbee, properly angled, would make a round shadow too. But if the frisbee rotated while the eclipse was in progress, the curvature of its shadow would change. The earth's does not.


(3) The constellations shift relative to the horizon as you move north and south around the globe, something that could only happen if you were standing on a sphere. (You may have to draw a few diagrams to convince yourself of this.) Given sufficient world travel combined with careful observation on your part, the frisbee hypothesis becomes well-nigh insupportable. I suppose this doesn't qualify as a home experiment, but I never said science would be easy.


— Cecil Adams


Richard Barrans Jr., Ph.D.
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Three arguments come to mind. All of these date back to Greek times or
earlier.

1. During lunar eclipses, the projected shadow of the earth on the moon is
always round. If the earth were flat, then this projection will not always
be circular (it could degenerate to a line!). But this is never observed,
regardless of the time of the lunar eclipse. Aristotle (384-322 BCE) wrote
about this. The third point, below, is also credited to Aristotle.

2. Eratosthanes (276-195(?) BCE) did a famous experiment on measuring the
angle of the sun at noon in Alexandria, Egypt, and in Syrene. Finding the
difference in the angles and knowing the distance between the two points,
the circumference can be calculated. He calculated the circumference in
stadia, which we do not know the conversion to our present day measure.

3. If you travel north or south a signigicant distance, you will see a
different set of stars at night. This will not happen on a flat surface.

Introductory astronomy texts deal with this topic. A good reference is
George Abell _Exploration of the Universe_

The next question is: "Prove that the earth is moving."

Nathan A. Unterman
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I presume your teacher won't accept hearsay evidence (evidence
collected by someone else and told to you), such as testimony from
astronauts or folks who have traveled around the world by boat,
airplane or balloon.
So here are the standard facts observable by anyone which your
teacher would find difficult to explain with a flat Earth hypothesis:



(1) When ships put out to see, they sink below the horizon gradually.
This suggests that the Earth's surface curves away and downward from
wherever you stand. It's hard to observe this effect on land, because
mountains and trees and so forth get in the way when something moves
away from you before it dips below the horizon.

(2) If you climb higher, you can see further. On top of a mountain or
lighthouse, or in an airplane, you can see things that are invisible
-- below the horizon -- when you are on the ground. For example, if
you watch the Sun set, and at the very moment when the Sun is just
below the horizon you climb quickly up a hundred feet, you will see
the Sun again. It is hard to explain why you can see further when you
climb higher unless the Earth's surface curves downward away from you
wherever you stand.

(3) The Earth casts a shadow on the Moon during a lunar eclipse. The
shadow is round.

(4) When the Sun is directly overhead in any place, it is NOT directly
overhead at the same time in any place a few hundred miles away:

Sun's rays are parallel because the Sun is very far away.
If you were to put a stick in the ground sticking straight up at noon
in New York City, then telephone a friend in Chicago to ask him to
also put a stick in the ground sticking straight up, he would see a
shadow, and you would not. This is hard to explain unless ``straight
up'' (away from the Earth's surface) points in different directions
when you are at different places on the Earth's surface. That is, the
Earth is not flat.

(5) If you travel North, you can see stars at night which you never
saw before. Since there are so many stars, you only need to travel a
hundred miles or so. The new stars are stars that were hidden below
the horizon before you walked North. How could this be true if the
Earth were flat?

(6) There are tides in the oceans, which you can see at the shore,
that repeat every 24 hours or so. If the Earth were flat, then there
would be no tides, because the tides depend on their being a
substantial distance between the near and far sides of the Earth, from
the point of view of the Moon. This is kind of complicated, however.

Grayce
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That is easy.
Observation of the Earth from outside the planet shows it to be round,
nearly spherical.
I am sure that your teacher is trying to motivate you to think.
By the way, if you look at the stars, the sun, and the moon, you do not see
any of them to be non-round. Since you observe them at different times and
from different angles, it seems plausible to say that they are round. Why
should the Earth be an exception?
Dr. Ali Khounsary
Advanced Photon Source
Argonne National Laboratory
Argonne, IL 60439
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Aug 19th, 2008 | By mooeypoo | Category: Articles, Astronomy, Party Trick
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(1) The Moon

Now that humanity knows quite positively that the Moon is not a piece of cheese or a playful god, the phenomena that accompany it (from its monthly cycles to lunar eclipses) are well-explained. It was quite a mystery to the ancient Greeks, though, and in their quest for knowledge, they came up with a few insightful observations that helped humanity figure out the shape of our planet.
Aristotle (who made quite a lot of observations about the spherical nature of the Earth) noticed that during lunar eclipses (when the Earth’s orbit places it directly between the Sun and the Moon, creating a shadow in the process), the shadow on the Moon’s surface is round. This shadow is the Earth’s, and it’s a great clue on the spherical shape of the Earth.
Since the earth is rotating (see the “Foucault Pendulum” experiment for a definite proof, if you are doubtful), the consistent oval-shadow it produces in each and every lunar eclipse proves that the earth is not only round but spherical – absolutely, utterly, beyond a shadow of a doubt not flat.
Refer to the following image from Wikipedia for more details on what happens during a lunar eclipse:
Click for the Original

(2) Ships and the Horizon

If you’ve been next to a port lately, or just spreached down a beach and stared off vacantly into the horizon, you might have, perhaps, noticed a very interesting phenomenon: approaching ships do not just “appear” out of the horizon (like they should have if the world was flat), but rather emerge from beneath the sea.
But – you say – ships do not submerge and rise up again as they approach our view (except in “Pirates of the Caribbean”, but we are hereby assuming that was a authentic movie). The reason ships appear as if they “emerge from the waves” is because the world is not flat: it’s round.
Imagine an ant walking along the surface of an orange, into your field of view. If you look at the orange “head on”, you will see the ant’s body slowly rising up from the “horizon”, because of the curvature of the Orange. If you would do that experiment with a long road, the effect would have changed: The ant would have slowly ‘materialized’ into view, depending on how sharp your vision is.

(3) Varying Star Constellations

This observation was originally made by Aristotle (384-322 BCE), who declared the Earth was round judging from the different constellations one sees while moving away from the equator.

After returning from a trip to Egypt, Aristotle noted that “there are stars seen in Egypt and [...] Cyprus which are not seen in the northerly regions.” This phenomenon can only be explained with a round surface, and Aristotle continued and claimed that the sphere of the Earth is “of no great size, for otherwise the effect of so slight a change of place would not be quickly apparent.” (De caelo, 298a2-10)
The farther you go from the equator, the farther the ‘known’ constellations go towards the horizon, and are replaced by different stars. This would not have happened if the world was flat:

(4) Shadows and Sticks

If you stick a stick in the [sticky] ground, it will produce a shadow. The shadow moves as time passes (which is the principle for ancient Shadow Clocks). If the world had been flat, then two sticks in different locations would produce the same shadow:

But they don’t. This is because the earth is round, and not flat:

Eratosthenes (276-194 BCE) used this principle to calculate the circumference of the Earth quite accurately. To see this demonstrated, refer to my experiment video about Eratosthenes and the circumference of the earth – “The Earth’s curvature is tasty!“.
(5) Seeing Farther from Higher

Standing in a flat plateau, you look ahead of you towards the horizon. You strain your eyes, then take out your favorite binoculars and stare through them, as far as your eyes (with the help of the binocular lenses) can see.
Then, you climb up the closest tree – the higher the better, just be careful not to drop those binoculars and break their lenses. You then look again, strain your eyes, stare through the binoculars out to the horizon.
The higher up you are the farther you will see. Usually, we tend to relate this to Earthly obstacles, like the fact we have houses or other trees obstructing our vision on the ground, and climbing upwards we have a clear view, but that’s not the true reason. Even if you would have a completely clear plateau with no obstacles between you and the horizon, you would see much farther from greater height than you would on the ground.
This phenomena is caused by the curvature of the Earth as well, and would not happen if the Earth was flat:


(6) Ride a Plane

If you’ve ever taken a trip out of the country, specifically long-destination trips, you could notice two interesting facts about planes and the Earth:

• Planes can travel in a relatively straight line a very long time and not fall off any edges. They can also, theoretically (and some do, though with stops along the way), circle the earth.
  Correction (Courtesy of Klaynos, from scienceforums.net): Apparently, planes can circle the Earth without stopping!
• If you look out the window on a trans-Atlantic flight, you can, most of the times, see the curvature of the earth in the horizon. The best view of the curvature used to be on the Concorde, but that plane’s long gone. I can’t wait seeing the pictures from the new plane by “Virgin Galactic” – the horizon should look absolutely curved, as it actually is from a distance.

(A picture of the curved horizon from a Concorde plane can be seen here).
(7) Look at Other Planets

The Earth is different from other planets, that much is true. After all, we have life, and we haven’t found any other planets with life (yet). However, there are certain characteristics all planets have, and it will be quite logical to assume that if all planets behave a certain way, or show certain characteristics – specifically if those planets are in different places or were created under different circumstances – our planet is the same.
In other words: If so many planets that were created in different locations and under different circumstances show the same property, it’s likely that our own planet has the same property as well. All of our observations show planets are spherical (and since we know how they’re created, it’s also obvious why they are taking this shape). Unless we have a very good reason to think otherwise (which we don’t), our planet is very likely the same.
In 1610, Galileo Galilei observed the moons of Jupiter rotating around it (click here to see a beautiful video reconstruction of his observations). He described them as small planets orbiting a larger planet – a description (and observation) that was very difficult for the church to accept as it followed a geocentric model where everything was supposed to revolve around the Earth. This observation also showed that the planets (Jupiter, Neptune, and later Venus was observed too) are all spherical, and all orbit the sun.
A flat planet (ours or any other planet) would be such an incredible observation that it would pretty much go against everything we know about how planets form and behave. It would not only change everything we know about planet formation, but also about star formation (as our sun would have to behave quite differently to accustom a “flat earth” theory), what we know of speeds and movements in space (like planets orbits, and the effects of gravity, etc). In short, we don’t just suspect that our planet is spherical. We know it.
(8) The Existence of Timezones

The time in New York, at the moment these words are written, is 12:00pm. The sun is in the middle of the sky (though it’s hard to see with the current cloud coverage). In Beijing, where Michael Phelps is likely getting ready for yet another gold medal, it’s 12:00am, midnight, and the sun is nowhere to be found.
In Adelaide, Australia, it is 1:30am. More than 13 hours ahead. There, the sunset is long gone – so much so, that it’s soon going to rise up again in the beginning of a new day. Here’s a list showing what time it is around the world when it is 12:00pm in New York city.

This can only be explained if the world is round, and rotating around its own axis. At a certain point when the sun is shining on one part of the Earth, the opposite side is dark, and vise versa. That allows for time differences and timezones, specifically ones that are larger than 12 hours.
Another point concerning timezones, the sun and flat/spherical Earth: If the sun was a “spotlight” (very directionally located so that light only shines on a specific location) and the world was flat, we would have seen the sun even if it didn’t shine on top of us (as you can see in the drawing below). The same way you can see the light coming out of a spotlight on a stage in the theater, even though you – the crowd – are in the dark. The only way to create two distinctly separate timezones, where there is complete darkness in one while there’s light in the other, is if the world is spherical.

(9) The Center of Gravity

There’s an interesting fact about mass: it attracts things to it. The force of attraction (gravity) between two objects depends on their mass and the distance between them. Simply said, gravity will pull toward the center of mass of the objects. To find the center of mass, you have to examine the object.
Consider a sphere. Since a sphere has a consistent shape, no matter where on it you stand, you have exactly the same amount of sphere under you. Imagine an ant (perhaps the same one from the previous point) walking around on a crystal ball. Assuming the crystal ball is polished, the ant’s only indication of movement would be the fact it’s moving its feet. The scenery (and shape of the surface) would not change at all.

Consider a flat plane. The center of mass of a flat plane is in its center (more or less – if you want to be more accurate, feel free to do the entire [shriek] integration [shriek] process), and the force of gravity will pull a person toward the middle of the plain. That means that if you stand on the edge of the plane, gravity will be pulling you toward the middle, not straight down like you usually experience.
I am quite positive that even for Australians an apple falls downwards, but if you have your doubts, I urge you to try it out – just make sure it’s nothing that can break or hurt you. Just in case gravity is consistent after all.

Further reading about the center of mass and about distribution of mass can be found here. And if you are brave enough to handle some equations (not involving integration), you can learn some more about Newton’s Law of Universal Gravitation.
(10) Images from Space

In the past 60 years of the space exploration era of humanity’s history, we’ve launched satellites, probes and people to space. Some of them got back, some of them still float through the solar system (and almost beyond it) and transmit amazing images over to our receivers on Earth.
Here’s a list of some of the pictures we’ve seen from space throughout the years:
October 24, 1946: A group of scientists in the New Mexico desert saw the first grainy photo of the Earth. The photograph was taken from a height of 65 miles (104.6 kilometers) by a 35-millimeter motion picture camera riding on a V-2 missile.
August 14, 1959: First crude photo of the Earth from the Explorer VI satellite. The photo showed a sun-lit area of the Pacific ocean and cloud coverage. It was taken from about 17,000 miles (27,350 kilometers) above the surface.
(Image Courtesy of the NASA GRIN Website)
June 5, 1966: Astronaut Eugene Cernan took this amazing picture of Gemini 9 and the Earth during his EVA (Extravehicular Activity). The spacecraft itself and Cernan’s “umbilical” (the cord that keeps him connected to the spacecraft’s systems) are visible on top of a beautiful background of the Earth.
(Image Courtesy of the NASA GRIN Website)
August 23, 1966: First view of Earth from the Moon. This picture was taken by Lunar Orbiter I when the spacecraft was on its 16th orbit and was just about to pass behind the Moon. (Image Courtesy of the NASA GRIN Website)
December 29, 1966: A spectacular view of the rising Earth from the Moon, taken by the crew of Apollo 8 after coming out from the other side of the Moon, approximately 239,000 miles (384,000 kilometers) from Earth.
(Image Courtesy of the NASA GRIN Website)
December 1, 1968: Photo of Earth from Apollo 8. This photograph was taken by an 80-mm lense, at a point very close to the Moon.
(Image Courtesy of the NASA GRIN Website)





Now... Can we put this matter to rest?

[Joe-XXXXXL]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

OK, go up a tall building and do the experiment; the paper will be proportionally nearer the balloon than the earth.

You really think going to the top of a building will be high enough?

[Lisa H]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Now... Can we put this matter to rest?

I am impressed with your copy and paste skills. Next time if you refer to a web page, use a link like this. http://www.smarterthanthat.com/astro...h-is-not-flat/

I hope your are going to pay the author of the document all amount dues for using their material. God does not want you to steal things.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I am not disputing the word of God, but rather I'm convinced of his truth by his ability to create things beyond our understanding. I do not condemn those who try to discover God's world (scientists); rather, I am saddened that they refuse to believe that God had a hand in their discoveries, but someday they will realize that folly. I am not Catholic, but Catholics are Christians too, and disrespect towards God's children is not very Christian. I shall pray for your misplaced soul as well. God is Forgiving.

Job 26:7, 26:10
Isaiah 40:21-22
Proverbs 8:27

Papists are not Christians. Read the evidence HERE.


And kindly stop derailing this thread.

[A Follower]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

[lots of nonsense]

I won't answer every point you make in detail (because first of all you copied and pasted them anyway and didn't put any thought or work into your post and second because you repeat yourself a lot).

You seem to use three different approaches to substantiate your unGodly ball-earther claims.
1. The earth is round therefor what I say must be true.
2. Earth is round because with specific assumptions we can proof that.
3. Falsified evidence

Point 1: you use this in the gravity is the same everywhere, ships disappear from the bottom on up on the horizon and timezones.

This is a mixture of circular reasoning and making things up because you think they have to be true.

In reality ships do not disappear from the bottom on up on the horizon. They get smaller and disappear when they are too far away to see. This is because at increased distances things take up a smaller part of our field of view, until they are smaller than can be seen.

You are welcome to verify this at any harbor or using a websearch. For example http://www.google.com/images?q=ship+horizon shows many ships on the horizon, but not one of them is missing the hull.

The gravity not being the same all over earth is also an example of faulty reasoning, because it is based on the requirement that the theory of gravity is correct, and the theory of gravity is based on earth (and the sun and stars and the moon being round as well). For reasonable people there is no reason to not think God can make things fall at the same speed on every place on earth.

You claim timezones require a round earth, but that is obviously ridiculous. Timezones only require that it is light at different times at different places. This can be better explained through a sun that is not infinitely strong is circling earth lighting different parts at different times of the day than the false scientologist explanation of a round earth that is spinning super-fast but instead of having centrifugal force it magically pulls people up and down without those people ever knowing they're upside down.

2. Examples of your use of this fallacy are when discussing the position of stars and constellations as well as when you point to the angle of sun light proving the ball-shape of earth.

The assumption you make here is that the sun and the stars are infinitely far away, without this assumption the conclusions are worthless.

If you think of the sun being less than infinitely far away the sun will also shine at different angles at different places at the same time. The exact same reasoning you use to prove the earth is round can also be used to measure the distance to the sun on a flat earth. Now how to determine which use of angles is correct? Well that is easy, if the sun was infinitely far away then it would have to be infinitely bright and infinitely large to be able to be seen. And if it had infinite size and brightness it would fill the entire sky and not a small portion. Clear proof you are wrong. Also if the sun were any less than infinitely far away but the earth were still round then there would have to be a wedge shape missing from earth, because the angles have to account for both distance and curvature, which they can't.

Stars and constellations are similar, you think they are infinitely far away and can be seen from any distance, which simply cannot be true, something that is far away appears small, and something that is very far away simply cannot be seen, because it does not take up enough space in our field of view. An alternative (correct) explanation is of course that the stars are affixed to a dome shape covering earth, with the stars moving along the dome for time keeping, exactly as Genesis 1:14 says.

3. Your use of falsified evidence is most obvious in the photography section.

It is well known that nearly all of NASA's photographs are altered or even created from scratch.
For example the alleged hubble space photo's are created by mixing and matching many different and likely unrelated pictures, removing any stars that move faster than their predictions allow, coloring things that have no color and many more things, just so they can beg for billions of dollars more subsidies and grants.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/origins/hubb-nf.html

Similar things happen when they have to show pictures of a helio-centric solar system, again they have to photoshop moons around planets so people will believe in rockets and satellites and all that nonsense.

http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2010/10/oh-my---yet-ano.html

[proving myself wrong]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Ah... So this is how God loves his people. By calling them names... I.E. Unsaved trash, godmocking fool.

Did God not call us to be like him in every way? Please, tell me where once in the Bible it shows Jesus calling someone names. Does it not say verbatim in the Bible to call no man a fool? ((Matthew 5:22) - "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.") Truly you are doing Gods work by calling myself along with hundreds of others trash and a fool. Am I not Gods creation like you? Show me in the Bible where God called his creation Trash.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Ah... So this is how God loves his people. By calling them names... I.E. Unsaved trash, godmocking fool.

Did God not call us to be like him in every way? Please, tell me where once in the Bible it shows Jesus calling someone names. Does it not say verbatim in the Bible to call no man a fool? ((Matthew 5:22) - "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.") Truly you are doing Gods work by calling myself along with hundreds of others trash and a fool. Am I not Gods creation like you? Show me in the Bible where God called his creation Trash.

Woah, first off, quote the right Bible.

Matthew 5: 22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.


When you have a reason to be angry, you should say the truth. That's what Jesus did.


Matthew 23: 17Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?


Matthew 23: 19Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?


Luke 11: 40Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?


Luke 24: 25Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:


And not just him, but also Paul.



Romans 1: 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,


1 Corinthians 15: 36Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:


Galatians 3: 1O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?


Ephesians 5:15See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,


And King David:


Psalm 14: 1The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.


Psalm 53: 1The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.


Psalm 5: 5The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.


And King Solomon:


Proverbs 26: 4Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
5Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.


Jesus often went around calling people things like a generation of vipers, hypocrites, wicked, adulterous, Satan, faithless, perverse, fools, serpents, killers of the prophets, dogs, sinful, sons of the devil, thieves, robbers, and much more.


As for Jesus calling people trash. Consider this. The word Jesus uses that is translated "hell" in English, is the Hebrew word Gehenna. Gehenna was a dump outside of Jerusalem, where garbage was sent to be burned. Jesus compared souls damned to hell with garbage. Jesus considers unsaved people trash.

[Lisa H]

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Ah... So this is how God loves his people. By calling them names... I.E. Unsaved trash, godmocking fool.

Did God not call us to be like him in every way? Please, tell me where once in the Bible it shows Jesus calling someone names. Does it not say verbatim in the Bible to call no man a fool? ((Matthew 5:22) - "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.") Truly you are doing Gods work by calling myself along with hundreds of others trash and a fool. Am I not Gods creation like you? Show me in the Bible where God called his creation Trash.

You are not to concerned about the parts of Bible that talk about stealing;

Exodus 20:15 You shall not steal.
Deuteronomy 5:19 You shall not steal.
Leviticus 19:11 You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie to one another.
Matthew 19:18 He said to Him, “Which ones?” Jesus said, “ ‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’

[hot4god]

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I feel foolish... I was wrong this whole time.

My God, forgive me.

[Meek and Humble]

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I feel foolish... I was wrong this whole time.

My God, forgive me.

Another soul saved?

[proving myself wrong]

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The attached image should help you understand how the Earth, Hell, and the Heavens are laid out in relation to each other. Thank you to Heathen_Basher for the image, which was originally posted here.


You didn't have to fly "a weird way" because God prevents airplanes from flying to close to the edge. He gently nudges the planes into such a shallow curve it isn't noticeable to the pilots or passengers.

That`s so wired... I found this exact same map in the back of my bible also. Thank you for adding such a highly detailed scientific diagram.

Well I figured out the problem, the diagram is wrong. The clouds would have to be below the ocean above earth. Really, how can you see clouds through an ocean.

[proving myself wrong]

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What a HYPOCRITE. He claims that the earth is flat but he clearly has a picture of a round earth oh his banner. You are missing half the globe, and there is a shadow indicating that the earth is round. That sure is some clever planning.

[Bob4God]

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What a HYPOCRITE. He claims that the earth is flat but he clearly has a picture of a round earth oh his banner. You are missing half the globe, and there is a shadow indicating that the earth is round. That sure is some clever planning.

Have you considered taking this up with the graphic design intern who can't follow directions, rather than complaining to us?