[praisescience]

792 round about. If your working was so well founded, why are you the first person to have done it. Why aren't people agreeing with you. You are using the maths in the wrong context and getting the wrong result.

[GOD=life]

Originally Posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben

and I can't do it instantly on command

Careful pastor, it always causes atheists to throw a fit when Christians don't do act like the little puppies they kick for fun...

[GOD=life]

Originally Posted by reneding

pastor billy ... I think you are the most ignorant person in the world

I think I speak on behalf of all of the 15000+ members of this forum when I say that no one cares what you think. You come here uninvited, unsaved and uneducated. Learn some manners first, child.

[praisescience]

You're all comletely deluded. I wonder why your Pastor is the only guy to think of this. If god existed, he wouldn't have created such an asshole.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by reneding

pastor billy ... I think you are the most ignorant person in the world

Why, because I think for myself instead of automatically and uncritically accepting conventional wisdom?

Originally Posted by praisescience

792 round about.

YOU'RE a MATHEMATICIAN?


Not even close. Does tan(Θ) = opposite / adjacent mean anything to you?

tan(53.6) = Opposite / 4052.2
1.356 = Opposite / 4052.2
Opposite = 5494.8

SOMEBODY (you) really ought to read this whole thread rather than continue to make himself look more and more foolish.

Originally Posted by praisescience

If your working was so well founded, why are you the first person to have done it.

Is it automatically false because it's new?

Originally Posted by praisescience

Why aren't people agreeing with you.

Is truth determined by majority rule?

Originally Posted by praisescience

You are using the maths in the wrong context and getting the wrong result.

So you keep asserting, but a foul-mouthed kid on the internet screaming "YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE I WAS TOLD TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE" and calling names doesn't disprove anything. Show me where I'm wrong.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Jamesy]

Originally Posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben

Wein's Displacement Law:
Peak Wavelength in meters = displacement constant / temperature in Kelvin

Okay.

Yellow light has a wavelength between 570nm and 580nm, so we'll solve for 575nm. Since we are working with nanometers rather than meters, we'll simplify the math by multiplying the displacement constant by 10^9.

575 = 2897768.5/T
575 * T = 2897768.5
T = 2897768.5/575
T = 5039.6° K (8611.6° F)

So the sun is about 5039.6° Kelvin.

The sun is roughly 13,600,000, You're doing it wrong because you've got the wrong value for the displacement constant. You really should check these things.

Now, the average temperature of the earth is 59° F, or about 288° K. The mean temperature gradient of the troposphere is 6° K/km, so let's solve for the distance.

d = (5039.6 - 288)/6
d = 791.9 km (491.1 miles)

No... d=(13.6m - 288 /6)
d= 13599712km ( 8 450 469 miles)

Besides, this is not how you work out how far away something is, you mong.

[GOD=life]

Btw, look up what "Poisoning the well" actually means. It is pre-emptive, which does not apply here. The pastor merely asked his accuser for actual proof instead of being referred to authority figures.

Why not tell the bees that according to science, it is aerodynamically impossible for them to fly

Also why not tell Einstein to forget about his theory of relativity because all the scientists at the time thought it was junk.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

The point of the trigonometry lesson was this.

I am at 36.4 N latitude. On noon on the equinox, the sun is directly over the equator due south of me. This means that me, the equator, and the sun form a right triangle, with the line between me and the equator forming the adjacent side, the line between the equator and the sun forming the opposite side, and the line between the sun and me forming the hypotenuse.

At noon on the equinox, the sun shines down into my well at an angle of 53.6° (Θ), and my well is 4052.2km from the equator. Applying the formula tan(Θ) = opposite / adjacent and solving for the opposite side, we see that the line between the sun and the equator is 5494.8km.

Now, how have I used math in the wrong context here?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Jamesy]

The point of the trigonometry lesson was this.

I am at 36.4 N latitude. On noon on the equinox, the sun is directly over the equator due south of me. This means that me, the equator, and the sun form a right triangle, with the line between me and the equator forming the adjacent side, the line between the equator and the sun forming the opposite side, and the line between the sun and me forming the hypotenuse.

At noon on the equinox, the sun shines down into my well at an angle of 53.6° (Θ), and my well is 4052.2km from the equator. Applying the formula tan(Θ) = opposite / adjacent and solving for the opposite side, we see that the line between the sun and the equator is 5494.8km.

...I honestly don't know where to start...

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

The sun is roughly 13,600,000, You're doing it wrong because you've got the wrong value for the displacement constant. You really should check these things.

According to NASA,

The part of the sun that we see has a temperature of about 5500 degrees C (10,000 degrees F).

You really should check these things.

This is a long thread and a lot of ground has already been covered. Including your "objection".

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[klaangen]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

Okay.


The sun is roughly 13,600,000, You're doing it wrong because you've got the wrong value for the displacement constant. You really should check these things.


No... d=(13.6m - 288 /6)
d= 13599712km ( 8 450 469 miles)

Besides, this is not how you work out how far away something is, you mong.

well, piffle me you are correct sir... and i should know, I´m a salesman...

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

...I honestly don't know where to start...

You should start from the observable data and using established scientific laws to see where they lead, instead of just believing whatever you've been told and working backwards looking for ways to prove your preconceived notions.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Jamesy]

THIS IS NOT HOW MATHS WORK

http://www.astro.washington.edu/cour...nes/rung3.html

FFS. You don't know a thing about how to do maths

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

THIS IS NOT HOW MATHS WORK

http://www.astro.washington.edu/cour...nes/rung3.html

FFS. You don't know a thing about how to do maths

Did you just do a web search and post a link to the first thing you found to rebut me? Do you even understand what your link says?

Why don't you explain in your own words what is wrong with how I calculated the distance to the sun, without letting Google do your thinking for you.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Jamesy]

Originally Posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben

Did you just do a web search and post a link to the first thing you found to rebut me? Do you even understand what your link says?

Why don't you explain in your own words what is wrong with how I calculated the distance to the sun, without letting Google do your thinking for you.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Um... How does where I got something from change how valid it is?

http://www.astro-tom.com/getting_sta...n_distance.htm

Look, that explains it in detail. Just explain how it's wrong and don't resort to "HERP DERP YOU FOUND FROM GOOGLE >:B".

[GOD=life]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

You don't know a thing about how to do maths

Which is why you link to other sites instead of constructing your own argument? Is this how you pass math tests? Do you give your teacher a link to a site too?

Listen to the pastor. Say it in your own words.

[Indica~]

Thank you for one of the most humorous threads I have ever read. I emailed it to my physics professor as a joke and I'm pretty sure your math single handedly persuaded the christians taking the class to become aetheists.



Did anyone else catch the "Diversity and Tolerance Pastor" responses? This site can't be serious! Go back to school, learn about the beautiful and wonderful world around you and then maybe you won't be so terrified of intelligent people.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

Um... How does where I got something from change how valid it is?

http://www.astro-tom.com/getting_sta...n_distance.htm

Look, that explains it in detail. Just explain how it's wrong and don't resort to "HERP DERP YOU FOUND FROM GOOGLE >:B".

I will explain it, but first I asked you to explain how my applied trigonometry is wrong, and you don't seem to be able answer. All you can do is post links.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[James Hutchins]

Pastor, he is merely a brit. You know their educational system is sorely lacking after the influx of mooslimes and how they had to allow their standards to plummet to accommodate the lesser minds. Now it all one big cesspool, I am afraid.

I have tested everyones calculations ( I am no astro physicist but I do have a couple of degrees from Princeton, one is in science) and I find the good Pastor's are correct and totally valid. I have nothing to gain or lose by making this independent observation.
The other calculations have a lot of assumed and never verified values.

[Indica~]

Ok so you guys are a satire group! That explains so much. God damn your hilarious! Good job!