Caught my son masturbating, what should I do?

**Pastor Ezekiel** · 12-03-2011, 06:20 PM

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Originally posted by science rules View Post

Where does it say that. How can I even accept any faith that degrades others for having different beliefs.

Unless you worship Jesus, you are damned to hellfire. The Bible is crystal clear on this point.

Romans 16:17
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

2 John 1:9-11
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds

Matthew 13:38-42
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Revelation 3:16
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

1Corinthians 9:11
I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

Deuteronomy 13:6-10
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die.

2 Chronicles 15:13
Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

Matthew 10:14
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

**MitzaLizalor** · 12-03-2011, 08:02 PM

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Originally posted by science rules View Post

Where does it say that. How can I even accept any faith that degrades others for having different beliefs. I know many, many Christians and they accept people unlike themselves as equal.

I know many people who claim to be "Christians" and yet reject not only the Virgin Birth but the existence of Jesus altogether: there was no such person, they advise me.

Now you might think that they have just cooked up some sort of "god" in their own mind or perhaps dissociated a part of their cognitive machinery and ascribe "divinity" to its pronouncements, something like this:

. . . . A} these thoughts are mine
. . . . B} these other thoughts I will call "god"
. . . . C} walks down to the shops and sees youth engaged inappropriately with sheep

Now The Bible is quite clear what should happen Leviticus 20:15 but you do not accept The Bible so what should you do?

depending on the sexual orientation
. . . . you were born with
. . . . that is in your genes
. . . . you have been conditioned to accept as normal

you might respond in different ways, according to the print-out from your "god":
. . . . although you don't want to join in "god" tells you to respect the youth's lifestyle and value his contribution to society
. . . . you think the sheep is very attractive and "god" says that boy/sheep/science rules relationships are fine
. . . . . .and in fact you should be able to get married
. . . . because you have been brainwashed into believing that sheep are not suitable life partners - after all they can't produce
. . . . . .the next generation of either sheep or humans in such a relationship - you feel revolted and start to vomit

Where does the information produced by your "god" come from?

Some people think that it is the product of received values, the things you have been taught perhaps or the value system implicit in the attitudes and opinions of parents, the law &/or respected persons (such as tribal elders or friends). Others might suggest you have just "internalised" the "values" of some group you work with, having the means to feed or house you or to make you rich.

But can't you see that you'd just be going 'round in circles? Those "respected persons" would simply be other individuals who already held the same values - otherwise they would not be respected. In your case that "god" seems to be a pot-pourri of conflicting opinions that you're too lazy or too obtuse to weed out so you go through life adopting mutually exclusive positions and passing judgement on anyone who disagrees with you.

CONFLICT

Here are some examples of where you are conflicted.
You believe that there is some sort of "christian god" and yet disregard everything He actually says. The central Truth of real Christianity is that Jesus Christ is the perfect sacrifice who gave His life so that we might be redeemed, and no doubt you are familiar with this verse:

John 3:16 For God so loued ye world, that he gaue his only begotten Sonne: that whosoeuer beleeueth in him, should not perish, but haue euerlasting life.
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The reason why a sacrifice is required in the first place is because sin has separated us from God resulting in the certainty of DEATH and HELL unless we make the sacrifices commanded by God to reunite us with Him but the Levitical Law was imperfect therefore God Himself provided the perfect sacrifice, as prophecied by Abraham:

Genesis 22:8 And Abraham said, My sonne, God will prouide himselfe a lambe for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.
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That is what Christians believe: Jesus is the Christ, that is where the name Christian comes from. God still requires sacrifice but instead of the blood of rams and bulls Christians claim the blood of Jesus and that is what it means to be saved. God explains that people who seek some other path to salvation II Chronicles 15:13 or who worship some other "god" are to be killed. That is not my idea, or something dreamed up by internalised value systems and dissociated cognition, it is The Word Of God.

DEUTERONOMY 17
2 If there bee found among you within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giueth thee, man or woman that hath wrought wickednes in the sight of the Lord thy God, in transgressing his couenant,
3 And hath gone and serued other gods, and worshipped them, either the Sunne, or Moone, or any of the hoste of heauen, which I haue not commanded,
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and inquired diligently, and behold, it be true, and the thing certaine, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man, or that woman (which haue committed that wicked thing) vnto thy gates, euen that man, or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones till they die.
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People who are not Christians are not covered by any sacrifice and therefore lie outside the New Covenant (the old covenant is defunct so nobody is covered by that any more) and whether or not you actively worship other (false) "gods" you are certainly not "seeking the Lord God of Israel" because you disregard His Word and furthermore claim that what He has said IS FALSE. God puts it like this:

I John 5:10 Hee that beleeueth on the Sonne of God, hath the witnesse in himselfe: he that beleeueth not God, hath made him a liar, because he beleeueth not the record that God gaue of his Sonne.
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No-one who rejects God's Word is a Christian. Start reading HERE..

**pervertforlife** · 12-04-2011, 05:38 AM

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

First you can start by spelling Caught right. You ignorant pile of trash.

Secondly you can join him in the fun.

**smellyLesbian** · 12-19-2011, 01:50 PM

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Originally posted by Brother Alex View Post

It says so in the KJV1611 Holy Bible.

Yes I do and I don't blindly believe so. I only believe what God Himself has written in the KJV1611 Holy Bible and you must be seriously retarded to question God's true word.

Well at least we know where you're going.

If god himself wrote the bible, why do you quote matthew, or john? God never wrote anything. Delusional power hungry pricks wrote a book that made them either look pathetic or strong. A child like story was created and then sifted through by power hungry churchmen, kings, and uneducated courtsmen. They used the book to their benefit. Including king james. He was like any other power hungry king who used gods name to retain his power. This gave you your "book of facts". The bible was written hundreds of years after jesus was no longer on earth. Have you ever played "telephone"? One person starts a chain and whispers something in someone elses ear. That person whispers what they heard in someone elses ear. The last person in the chain says aloud what they heard. It is never the sentence that the first person started with. Now, apply that kind of human error to the hundreds of years and hundreds of people that the story of the bible went through. The bible cannot be trusted. Now on the subject of masturbating, if a human male doesnt have some kind of release, it often becomes uncomfortable and psychologically detrimental. It causes irritabillity and depression. In the middle ages, the sexual repression led to doctors inventing the first dildo in order to give female patients release from hysteria. Yes, without orgasm, for both men and women, it can lead to hysteria. So not only is it natural, but sometimes a necessity.

Crucify me. Sadists.

**Jack O'fagan** · 12-19-2011, 02:16 PM

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Originally posted by smellyLesbian View Post

If god himself wrote the bible, why do you quote matthew, or john? God never wrote anything. Delusional power hungry pricks wrote a book that made them either look pathetic or strong. A child like story was created and then sifted through by power hungry churchmen, kings, and uneducated courtsmen. They used the book to their benefit. Including king james. He was like any other power hungry king who used gods name to retain his power. This gave you your "book of facts". The bible was written hundreds of years after jesus was no longer on earth. Have you ever played "telephone"? One person starts a chain and whispers something in someone elses ear. That person whispers what they heard in someone elses ear. The last person in the chain says aloud what they heard. It is never the sentence that the first person started with. Now, apply that kind of human error to the hundreds of years and hundreds of people that the story of the bible went through. The bible cannot be trusted.

Can you back ANY of this up with scripture?

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Now on the subject of masturbating, if a human male doesnt have some kind of release, it often becomes uncomfortable and psychologically detrimental. It causes irritabillity and depression. In the middle ages, the sexual repression led to doctors inventing the first dildo in order to give female patients release from hysteria. Yes, without orgasm, for both men and women, it can lead to hysteria.

Wrong! Harlots such as yourself started to use these disgusting devices long before that. If you have a dildo fixation as least know where your favorite 'toy' originated.

Ezekiel 16:16 And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: the like things shall not come, neither shall it be so. 17Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them,

YIC

Jack

**MitzaLizalor** · 12-20-2011, 12:25 AM

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Originally Posted by

..hysteria.

you need to look up the etymology of "hysteria"

it is impossible for men to suffer from hysteria

**Pastor Ezekiel** · 12-20-2011, 04:18 AM

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Originally posted by smellyLesbian View Post

If god himself wrote the bible, why do you quote matthew, or john? God never wrote anything. Delusional power hungry pricks wrote a book that made them either look pathetic or strong. A child like story was created and then sifted through by power hungry churchmen, kings, and uneducated courtsmen. They used the book to their benefit. Including king james. He was like any other power hungry king who used gods name to retain his power. This gave you your "book of facts". The bible was written hundreds of years after jesus was no longer on earth. Have you ever played "telephone"? One person starts a chain and whispers something in someone elses ear. That person whispers what they heard in someone elses ear. The last person in the chain says aloud what they heard. It is never the sentence that the first person started with. Now, apply that kind of human error to the hundreds of years and hundreds of people that the story of the bible went through. The bible cannot be trusted. Now on the subject of masturbating, if a human male doesnt have some kind of release, it often becomes uncomfortable and psychologically detrimental. It causes irritabillity and depression. In the middle ages, the sexual repression led to doctors inventing the first dildo in order to give female patients release from hysteria. Yes, without orgasm, for both men and women, it can lead to hysteria. So not only is it natural, but sometimes a necessity.

Crucify me. Sadists.

God personally dictated the Holy Bible directly to King James, so that it would be written in American, His favorite language. Read THIS.

As for the accuracy of the Holy Bible, do you really believe that the creator of the universe would sit by and allow His pefect word to be adulterated from it's original intent?

I have a series of sermons on this very subject HERE that will answer all of your questions. I hope you'll read it.

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

**~~Sentherus~~** · 12-21-2011, 08:57 AM

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post

God personally dictated the Holy Bible directly to King James, so that it would be written in American, His favorite language. Read THIS.

As for the accuracy of the Holy Bible, do you really believe that the creator of the universe would sit by and allow His pefect word to be adulterated from it's original intent?

I have a series of sermons on this very subject HERE that will answer all of your questions. I hope you'll read it.

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

If English is gods favorite language then why was almost the entire old testament written in Hebrew?

**MitzaLizalor** · 12-21-2011, 09:26 PM

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Originally posted by Sentherus View Post

If English is gods favorite language then why was almost the entire old testament written in Hebrew?

That was so the Jews could read it too.

But they didn't.

MATTHEW 21
42 Iesus saith vnto them, Did ye neuer reade in the Scriptures, †The stone which the builders reiected, the same is become the head of the corner? This is the Lords doing, and it is marueilous in our eyes.
43 Therefore say I vnto you, the kingdome of God shall be taken from you, and giuen to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
† Psalm 118:22 ©1611

**Croucuss** · 01-04-2012, 07:33 PM

Re: Caught my son masturbating, what should I do?

The masturbating is sin! My opinion is that: masturbating are illeagal action! So the law have to ban the masturbating all the people over the world!