[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Do you believe that any beating you can give to him is as bad as what's to come for him if he continues? You say you had him praying until he went to sleep, but how can you know what he was doing or thinking of as he went to sleep? Or even as he was praying?

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Yesterday my wife was cooking dinner as usual. When the dinner was ready I went to call my younger son but when I opened the door he sat naked on his bed masturbating over a pornographic magazine! Of course I gave him a hard beating and made him pray to the LORD until bedtime. Me and my wife are in shock, I have beaten my sons all their lives but sometimes they don't seem to understand the will of God. I am very concerned about this and I simply don't know what to do. I have always given them a daily spanking before bedtime but I feel like they need more beatings so they can seriously feel God's anger.
†Should I beat them more often or is there a better way to make them understand?

Even to me it is obvious that that younger son would be praying out loud. A moment's hesitation would surely incur another beating. If his parents were downstairs or in another room or going outside they would naturally advise their profligate child to speak louder.

..(BROTHER ALEX)
†Should I beat them more often or is there a better way to make them understand?

Although I am not married I do sometimes catch males masturbating especially backstage at "art festivals" and in forests at night. Immediate action is required, and I don't care if they do call me a wowser!

But beating is the Biblical solution.

The Bible tells us that it is necessary to cause injury:

Proverbs 20
29 The glory of yong men is their strength: and the beautie of old men is the gray head.
30 The blewnes of a wound cleanseth away euill: so doe stripes the inward parts of the belly.
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God explains that it is not the beating that disciplines but the injury. That is why when One Without Sin is injured, whipped and lacerated
it heals anyone who accepts that sacrifice and when He is murdered that killing and that blood is able to remove sin altogether
(provided one accepts the efficacy of such a killing of course, which many do not even many who claim to be "Christians").
Hebrews 9:22

Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was vpon him, and with his stripes we are healed.
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Now many agnostics, pseudo-baptists, Zentards and the like will start in with the "oh but that's the Old Testament" line.

I looked at The New Testament

Not only does Peter embrace the woes of The Suffering Servant as efficacious but writes that ongoing persecution, false imprisonment and death may be expected when following God's Plan for Salvation in Jesus Christ - torments thrown at us by Satan and by those whom he inspires with filth and corruption.


I Peter 2
21 For euen hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for vs, leauing vs an example, that yee should follow his steps.
22 Who did no sinne, neither was guile found in his mouth.
23 Who when hee was reuiled, reuiled not againe; when hee suffered, hee threatned not, but committed himselfe to him that iudgeth righteously.
24 Who his owne selfe bare our sinnes in his owne body on the tree, that wee being dead to sinnes, should liue vnto righteousnesse, by whose stripes ye were healed.
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HEBREWS 12:9

Sex is one of the worst I Corinthians 6:18 and there should be ZERO TIME ELAPSED between discovering a demon possessed child masturbating and the onset of beating. It should go without saying that I offer no advice to any father (except heathen fathers who are sending their sons to HELL by in many cases actually recommending masturbation as a "natural" and therefore presumably "appropriate" activity). At any event promoting "art" there are probably women who prowl around hoping to entice young men into acts of gross and very public indecency, lying at wanton posture in hammock, sitting just above them (lewdly displayed) in tree, hiding in shrub with mirror flashing sunlight into their eyes I cannot believe the ideas Satan puts in these harlots' entrails: can't they see what will happen next? (well, yes they probably can): do they know that it leads STRAIGHT TO HELL? (unlikely I'd have thought); that is why, when caught-in-the-DISGUSTING-act, these miscreants need to be dealt with AT ONCE.

True Christian parents already know this and it is unnecessary for me to advice them even if it were appropriate (which it is not) so I have no advice for the Alex family. But when self-inventing secularist agnosticism rears up in front of me I'll smack it down every time. Their weasel words are not effective here!

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I ought to mention that females are even worse, feeling free to commence masturbation in trains, in coffee-shops & chocolate bars, on fairground rides, in picture-theatres — just about anywhere really. They require Godly men to minister to them (although I do what I can in such a situation):
Proverbs 20:27

Any whore (i.e. any unsaved or apostate woman) needs to get right with the Bishop* of her soul. Especially lesbotics.
I Peter 2:25

* that does not mean the pope

[IreneR]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

So you've chosen to introduce yourself in a thread on teenagers masturbating...

We do have an "introductions" section you know.

I'll bet your husband beats you every day.

I am very well aware there is an introduction section, but I was politely asked to introduce myself to Brother Harold.

I can also say my husband never laid hand on me. If you had read further on, you would also know he died nearly 10 years ago.

Bless you, from Aurora.

[Liam the ex-drunk]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

I am very well aware there is an introduction section, but I was politely asked to introduce myself to Brother Harold.

I can also say my husband never laid hand on me. If you had read further on, you would also know he died nearly 10 years ago.

Bless you, from Aurora.

Did you kill your husband? Is that why God punished you with a perverted son?

Yic

Liam

[Good Christian Woman]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Beatins are not enough, you must cut off his penis, as Mark 9:43 demands. It has caused him to sin.

[science rules]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Scientists are liars, science is nothing but Satan's way of turning people against the true teachings of the LORD. Masturbation is not only disgusting, but it is also against God's will. I find it very strange that your parents haven't beaten the fear of God into you. You should pray to the LORD and turn away from this filthy habit if you don't want to burn in the eternal fires of hell. May God help you.

If scientists are such liars, why can everything they say (at least the practical stuff) be proven. Why would you trust scientists who say that using a computer or driving a car is safe if you think scientists are liars? Consider that to make this post you used a computer.

Why insult the people that have worked hard to make your life today easier than the lives of people thousands of years ago. If you question that life today is easier think of all your modern amenities and the things that make them work. Think of things like: your computer, the internet, easy access to clean water, electricity, cars, your refrigerator, television, the radio, satellites... there are so many things that have been created by scientists, does the lord want you to turn away from all of these things.

If you think scientists are liars then you can't trust any innovation that was devised within the last 2000 years. Frankly, your accusation was ill thought out.

On a related note, if you dislike the scientists who came up with weapons to kill the masses, I too dislike. Nevertheless, even these scientists are not liars but advocates to violence. I challenge you create a counter-argument rather than for you to ban me.

I have been polite to you despite our differing opinions and I hope that you will have the same courtesy.

[Thomas Dalton]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

If scientists are such liars, why can everything they say (at least the practical stuff) be proven. Why would you trust scientists who say that using a computer or driving a car is safe if you think scientists are liars? Consider that to make this post you used a computer.

Why insult the people that have worked hard to make your life today easier than the lives of people thousands of years ago. If you question that life today is easier think of all your modern amenities and the things that make them work. Think of things like: your computer, the internet, easy access to clean water, electricity, cars, your refrigerator, television, the radio, satellites... there are so many things that have been created by scientists, does the lord want you to turn away from all of these things.

If you think scientists are liars then you can't trust any innovation that was devised within the last 2000 years. Frankly, your accusation was ill thought out.

On a related note, if you dislike the scientists who came up with weapons to kill the masses, I too dislike. Nevertheless, even these scientists are not liars but advocates to violence. I challenge you create a counter-argument rather than for you to ban me.

I have been polite to you despite our differing opinions and I hope that you will have the same courtesy.

This amuses me. I'm a Christian, and even I know that real scientist will never claim that everything can be proven. Why, a perfect scientist will never even boldly state there is no elephant in the room with him. It could be he missed it, or other reasons. He will state however, that it's very unlikely that there's an elephant in the room.

Try to prove any thermodynamic law. I dare you.

Science is like faith, only scientists worship Satan.

And we don't have to put all that machinery away, since Mark 16:17 states we can cast out devils!

And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils;

Then they're safe to use!

Can I ask why you dislike weapons of mass destruction? If we just had wiped out Iraq, a lot of Christian lives could have been saved!

And, Monopoly, I also don't understand why atheists come here and waste that much of their time. They must be really retarded to think they can argue with the bible.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

If scientists are such liars, why can everything they say (at least the practical stuff) be proven. Why would you trust scientists who say that using a computer or driving a car is safe if you think scientists are liars? Consider that to make this post you used a computer.

Why insult the people that have worked hard to make your life today easier than the lives of people thousands of years ago. If you question that life today is easier think of all your modern amenities and the things that make them work. Think of things like: your computer, the internet, easy access to clean water, electricity, cars, your refrigerator, television, the radio, satellites... there are so many things that have been created by scientists, does the lord want you to turn away from all of these things.

If you think scientists are liars then you can't trust any innovation that was devised within the last 2000 years. Frankly, your accusation was ill thought out.

On a related note, if you dislike the scientists who came up with weapons to kill the masses, I too dislike. Nevertheless, even these scientists are not liars but advocates to violence. I challenge you create a counter-argument rather than for you to ban me.

I have been polite to you despite our differing opinions and I hope that you will have the same courtesy.

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

[science rules]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

This amuses me. I'm a Christian, and even I know that real scientist will never claim that everything can be proven. Why, a perfect scientist will never even boldly state there is no elephant in the room with him. It could be he missed it, or other reasons. He will state however, that it's very unlikely that there's an elephant in the room.

Try to prove any thermodynamic law. I dare you.

Science is like faith, only scientists worship Satan.

And we don't have to put all that machinery away, since Mark 16:17 states we can cast out devils!

And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils;

Then they're safe to use!

Can I ask why you dislike weapons of mass destruction? If we just had wiped out Iraq, a lot of Christian lives could have been saved!

And, Monopoly, I also don't understand why atheists come here and waste that much of their time. They must be really retarded to think they can argue with the bible.

But nevertheless if something was made by satin's followers, how could it possibly be trusted. It's not that the devil is within it but it was made by the devil...

I don't think that the Iraqis would like that very much. First they have a bad government then some country kills all the civilians in the name of god. While i have not spent too much time reading the bible, I thought you don't like murder. Rather than using a weapon of mass destruction, use something that kills the government and not the people.

In response to the post directly above this one: I didn't ask for no opposition but only that you be polite in it. I am not saying don't believe in god, for that is your faith and you are free to follow it. Simply do not degrade others that don't follow your faith for that sole purpose. If scientists are liars then explain how they are liars not just accuse them.

If god created all people then they are all equal, why fight this? I may not believe in god but this seems to make sense to me.

[Born Again Bob]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Dear Friend,

If god created all people then they are all equal, why fight this? I may not believe in god but this seems to make sense to me.

It makes sense to you that someone you don't believe exists created people you do believe exist?

Makes as much sense as string theory I guess...

Yours In His Disdain,
bab

[science rules]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Dear Friend,



It makes sense to you that someone you don't believe exists created people you do believe exist?

Makes as much sense as string theory I guess...

Yours In His Disdain,
bab

Most of the people on this forum believe in god so, I thought it would be best to put things in your perspective.

[Jedediah]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

If god created all people then they are all equal, why fight this? I may not believe in god but this seems to make sense to me.

I'm not surprised that one who rejects all the Biblical and (True) Scientific evidence for God's existence and His authority over all of Creation would suffer from a complete dearth of logic. The fact that God created everyone and everything does not necessitate that all people and things are created equal. There is nothing Biblical about that supposition.

Romans 9:21
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

In fact, God makes it quite clear that not all people are created equal. Some are created to join Him in Heaven for all eternity, pressed against Jesus' bosom, singing praise songs. Others are created for the day of evil (Proberbs 16:4), to be raised from the dead only to be cast down into the lake of fire created for satan and the demons, where they will all suffer unfathomable torment for all eternity.

[science rules]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

I'm not surprised that one who rejects all the Biblical and (True) Scientific evidence for God's existence and His authority over all of Creation would suffer from a complete dearth of logic. The fact that God created everyone and everything does not necessitate that all people and things are created equal. There is nothing Biblical about that supposition.

Romans 9:21
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

In fact, God makes it quite clear that not all people are created equal. Some are created to join Him in Heaven for all eternity, pressed against Jesus' bosom, singing praise songs. Others are created for the day of evil (Proberbs 16:4), to be raised from the dead only to be cast down into the lake of fire created for satan and the demons, where they will all suffer unfathomable torment for all eternity.

Oh, I apologize for my ignorance of the contents of the bible. My point was that unless someones actions harm someone else, they should be allowed. If some scientists wants to do a study on any topic, unless it results in the harm of another it should be tolerated. This is in reference to my previous posts and to the comment: "Scientists are liars" made much earlier in this thread.

Until someone does something to harm another they are equal to everyone else who has done the same regardless of their race, gender, sexual orientation, ect.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Until someone does something to harm another they are equal to everyone else who has done the same regardless of their race, gender, sexual orientation, ect.

That's not what the Holy Bible says.


Beliefs like that will get your ticket punched to hell.

[science rules]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

That's not what the Holy Bible says.


Beliefs like that will get your ticket punched to hell.

Where does it say that. How can I even accept any faith that degrades others for having different beliefs. I know many, many Christians and they accept people unlike themselves as equal.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Cought my son masturbating, what should I do?

Where does it say that. How can I even accept any faith that degrades others for having different beliefs. I know many, many Christians and they accept people unlike themselves as equal.

I don't believe you. Please send them here so we can verify their faith, their Biblical knowledge, and their adherence to this preposterous claim of yours.

Matter of fact, if you can get 5 people that you personally know to post in this thread in the next 12 hours that can support your claim of accepting people unlike themselves as equals USING SCRIPTURE, I will gladly donate $1,000 to the Jesus-hating charity of your choosing.

Hurry now! The clock is running.

Be advised: we use IP tracking here, and the DoF has *ahem* other ways of determining the veracity of otherwise innocent-looking registrations.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

P.S. Tick tock!