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10-09-2007, 09:48 AM
Pastor Al E. Pistle's
PASTORAL THEOLOGY I. INTRODUCION.
1. Definition -- A pastor is a shepherd of God's flock.
2. Authority for the office, Eph. 4:13.
3. Difference between pastors and evangelists. (1) Evangelists bring good news, pioneers in the gospel.
(2) Evangelists win souls to Christ, and gather a flock.
(3) Pastors feed, lead, superintend, watch over it and collect tithes.
4. Of what Pastoral Theology treats. (1) Theology treats of God, his attributes and relations.
(2) Pastoral theology treats of all that concerns the flock.
(3) It embraces the whole field of pastoral relation and duty.
(4) By consequence, the reciprocal duties of pastor and flock.
5. How the office and relation is constituted. (1) He is chosen and called to the office by JESUS.
(2) If he accepts, the office and relation are constituted.
(3) Also, the reciprocal duties of pastor and flock.
(4) Installation not essential, just a sufficient salary.
(5) Expedient to secure fellowship and prevent ignorance and heresy.
6. Essential qualifications for a useful pastor. (1) Sound, earnest piety; aggressive; steady; consistent; special anointing for the work; ripe Christian experience; not a novice, for how can such lead the flock?
(2) Constant growth in grace and in the knowledge of Christ and in much deserved wealth..
(3) A constant disciple of Christ, and a pupil of the Holy Ghost.
(4) A special divine call to the work of pastor .
7. What is satisfactory evidence of a divine call to this work? (1) All men and women should have and obey a divine call.
(2) If they do not, they are not servants of God.
(3) If in this they are not conscientious, they will not amount to much.
(4) Yearning for the salvation of souls.
(5) Intense interest in the flock of Christ.
(6) Not inconsistent with providential circumstances.
(7) Or with other manifest calls of providence.
(8) Or with other manifest duties and relations.
(9) Natural possibility to fulfill its obligations.
(10) That is, health, physical and mental ability.
(11) Favoring providential circumstances.
(12) Natural gifts: Love of study; logical mind; gift of language; aptness to teach; sound education, or the means of obtaining one.
(13) Weanedness from worldly-mindedness.
(14) Strong and steady inclination to devote the life to this special work.
(15) Willingness to endure its trials and privations.
(16) The spirit and temper of Christ in this respect.
(17) Readiness to accept all its incidentals.
(18) Satisfactory inward apprehension of the will of God in regard to the path of duty.
(19) Trial of gifts that shall prove that God is with you in laboring for souls.
(20) It is generally agreed, that these are essential to satisfactory evidence of a divine call.
(21) In the same way, all persons are to have their special call evinced.
(22) In extending a call, the church certify their belief that the candidate is called of God.
(23) That having experience of his usefulness, etc.
(24) A divine call to any course of life, cannot safely be resisted or trifled with.
(25) This is true in all the callings and relations of life.
(26) If Christ calls to this work, he will be with and bless.
(27) Strong worldly inducements often overrule a divine call.
(28) Unbelief in regard to success often discourages.
(29) Counter inclinations often prevail.
(30) Stripes sure to follow, or be given up to the world.
8. Other important qualifications as exemplified by Pastor Pistle. (1) Sound common sense.
(2) Wisdom.
(3) Prudence.
(4) Self-control.
(5) Moral courage.
(6) Good manners.
(7) Well-governed temper.
(8) Physical comeliness -- not deformed bodily, perfect physique.
(9) Not given to money-making.; graciously accepts a pittance in tithes.
(10) Self-denying.
(11) Temperate.
(12) Sympathetic.
(13) Transparent.
(14) Approachable.
(15) Attributes of a leader.
(16) Good habits in all respects.
(17) Firmness, but not obstinacy.
(18) Discretion.
(19) Not given to strong prejudices.
(20) Love of peace.
(21) Naturally kind and genial.
(22) A reformer.
(23) Natural affability and frankness that will encourage frankness and transparency in his flock.
(24) Ability to keep a secret, and faithfulness in this respect.
Emeritus Professor of the Christ Jesus Chair of Theology at Landover Baptist University.
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Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth.--Psalms 58:6
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Re: SO YOU WANT TO BECOME A PASTOR! -
10-10-2007, 12:40 PM
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7. What is satisfactory evidence of a divine call to this work? (1) All men and women should have and obey a divine call.
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Satan's hackers are at it again. The nerve of them, thinking they could make a good man look like he's in favor of female pastors. That's outrageous! If God wanted female pastors, He would have made us men!
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10-10-2007, 02:19 PM
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Satan's hackers are at it again. The nerve of them, thinking they could make a good man look like he's in favor of female pastors. That's outrageous! If God wanted female pastors, He would have made us men!
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That was well picked up., sisterMM. The lord needs little 'do-ers' like your pretty self.
have you finished the laundry yet?
The devil, whose business is to pervert the truth, mimics the exact circumstance of the Divine Sacraments. He baptises his believers and promises forgiveness of sins...he celebrates the oblation of bread, and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copied certain things of those that be divine." Tertullian (155-222 AD) from The Prescription Against Heretics' Ch XL
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10-10-2007, 07:44 PM
I'd like to be a Pastor one day, but I am not sure how to go about it.
God IS the Salvation. We are his messengers, NOT his workers. We bring people TO HIM. Don't you people see that I am a retarded?
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10-10-2007, 07:50 PM
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Satan's hackers are at it again. The nerve of them, thinking they could make a good man look like he's in favor of female pastors. That's outrageous! If God wanted female pastors, He would have made us men!
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Female pastor, is kind of an honorary title.
Titus 2 tells us what the women may teach.
3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
In order to provide the women a little bit of authority, the title of pastor CAN be imposed.
However, no female pastor may tell any male True Christian™ that he probably doesn't already know.
I hope this helps.
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10-10-2007, 07:51 PM
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I'd like to be a Pastor one day, but I am not sure how to go about it.
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10-10-2007, 08:00 PM
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I'd like to be a Pastor one day, but I am not sure how to go about it.
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"You would like to"? Friend what about "He would like you to"? This isn't about your own selfish desires, it is about your Savior's?
Take our Pastor Pistol’s inspiring story of how he became a pastor; He was fighting for Jesus in Vietnam with the Godly US Marines. He had a worthless commie lined up in his sites for a head shot when a voice said to him.
“Al, Al you have done good deeds for Me here. But I need to do fight for me back home in America, My Favorite country. The road I ask you to follow will be long and hard for you Al; it will mean having a private jet, two large homes, Satan will sends large busty blondes to temp you for My sake. What do you say Al? If you say yes I will help your’ bullet pop that gooks head like a zit.”
Did Pastor Al hesitate even a second? Was there moment of doubt? No!
“Praise you Lord” Pastor Al said as he squeezed that trigger and that VC’s head exploded.
That is what it takes to be a man of God friend.
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10-10-2007, 08:11 PM
He will let me know if i can become a pastor or not when I try. I have asked, but he wasn't clear on the answer. The whisper you talk of sounds more like the devil to me (no offense Pastor I'm sure your a very good man). " Help pop his head like a zit." That's sick.
God IS the Salvation. We are his messengers, NOT his workers. We bring people TO HIM. Don't you people see that I am a retarded?
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10-10-2007, 08:31 PM
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He will let me know if i can become a pastor or not when I try. I have asked, but he wasn't clear on the answer. The whisper you talk of sounds more like the devil to me (no offense Pastor I'm sure your a very good man). " Help pop his head like a zit." That's sick.
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Oh so you think Pastor Al was wrong for killing communists before they could go on some blood crazed atheist killing rampage? Do you know that if it wasn't for Godly and brave men like Pastor Al the communists would be bayoneting babies off the Golden Gate bridge. One of those babies might have been you friend.
Let me ask you a question friend; Christianity is under attack from Al Quida and there liberal allies. Have you ever though of joining our Military to stop the terrorist menace? I know you would be sacrificing your' chance to be President of these Great and Godly United States by joining the military but a sacrificed like that wouldn’t be too much for a future pastor.
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10-10-2007, 08:35 PM
I am not of the USA. I am English. Still a godly country, however, I do not plan on joining the army, nor being a Prime Minister. I do however plan on spreading the words of God one way or another.
God IS the Salvation. We are his messengers, NOT his workers. We bring people TO HIM. Don't you people see that I am a retarded?
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Re: SO YOU WANT TO BECOME A PASTOR! -
10-10-2007, 08:35 PM
I pray you will learn to trust God's Word before you try to become a pastor. It is easy to fill your pews by tickling folks' ears with a lovey-dovey feel-good message, while not warning them about the very real dangers of Hell. Your congregation will find themselves tricked out of salvation, and your punishment will be doubly severe.
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Doubly severe!
(J. W. Alexander, "Letters to Young Ministers
on The Cultivation of Personal Piety")
Every preacher of the gospel should earnestly
strive to attain the experience of the truths
which he communicates, and to have every
doctrine which he utters turned into vital
exercises of his heart; so that when he stands
up to speak in the name of God, there may be
that indescribable freshness and penetrativeness.
That a man is a minister is no guaranteethat
he shall not be cast into hell-fire! The hell of
apostate ministers must be doubly severe!
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10-10-2007, 08:42 PM
I am from a church that has no origins. We sprouted from a New Life church. We try and bring people to us to save them. We are called Springs church. We have a 20 people strong youth group who lead a service once every few months. I usually do the preaching in that service. I do well usually. I believe that I can be a Pastor with God's help.
God IS the Salvation. We are his messengers, NOT his workers. We bring people TO HIM. Don't you people see that I am a retarded?
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Re: SO YOU WANT TO BECOME A PASTOR! -
10-10-2007, 08:46 PM
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I am from a church that has no origins. We sprouted from a New Life church. We try and bring people to us to save them. We are called Springs church. We have a 20 people strong youth group who lead a service once every few months. I usually do the preaching in that service. I do well usually. I believe that I can be a Pastor with God's help.
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A fourteen year old brit who is starting a goth cult. It's a sad day. JESUS weeps.
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10-10-2007, 08:46 PM
Friend the New Life Church is an abomination against Jesus. These hippy, liberal, non-denominational churches are scams run by malls to get you in so your poor children will be tempted by the damnation that comes from setting foot into a "Hot Topic."
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10-10-2007, 08:54 PM
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I am from a church that has no origins. We sprouted from a New Life church. We try and bring people to us to save them. We are called Springs church. We have a 20 people strong youth group who lead a service once every few months. I usually do the preaching in that service. I do well usually. I believe that I can be a Pastor with God's help.
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What do you mean, "has no origins"? That doesn't make any sense.
Do you not care that you are steering folks away from salvation by just preaching whatever hippy-dippy idea pops into your head instead of God's Word?
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Re: SO YOU WANT TO BECOME A PASTOR! -
10-10-2007, 08:55 PM
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What do you mean, "has no origins"? That doesn't make any sense.
Do you not care that you are steering folks away from salvation by just preaching whatever hippy-dippy idea pops into your head instead of God's Word?
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They might as well just be following the teaching of Joel Osteen!
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10-10-2007, 08:58 PM
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I am from a church that has no origins. We sprouted from a New Life church. We try and bring people to us to save them. We are called Springs church. We have a 20 people strong youth group who lead a service once every few months. I usually do the preaching in that service. I do well usually. I believe that I can be a Pastor with God's help.
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You think you can be a pastor? Do you think you have The Faith® in Jesus to eject one of your parishioners from you congregation because she was a bastard like one of our pastors had to. You have to have faith in God that is rock solid to look into a woman’s tear filled face and tell her “I am sorry, you are damned and there is utterly no hope for you.” And sick to it no matter how she begs and pleads.
PRAISE Jesus Pastor Zeke had that strength of character to do the Right Thing®. Now what makes you think you do kid?
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10-10-2007, 09:02 PM
You think that I am part of a fake belief. But you haven't seen what we preach. YOu know nothing of us and therefore shouldn't judge us.
God IS the Salvation. We are his messengers, NOT his workers. We bring people TO HIM. Don't you people see that I am a retarded?
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10-10-2007, 09:04 PM
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You think that I am part of a fake belief. But you haven't seen what we preach. YOu know nothing of us and therefore shouldn't judge us.
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Fiend, we know what the New Life Churches preach. We know that anyone sinfull enough to attend them is eternally damned. We also know that damned people have no right to preach at all.
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10-10-2007, 09:05 PM
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You think that I am part of a fake belief. But you haven't seen what we preach. YOu know nothing of us and therefore shouldn't judge us.
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We've seen the nonsense you've been spouting here, and if you are their leader, then we have all the information we need to judge righteous judgment, as the Lord commands.
Pastor Billy-Reuben
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