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  • #31
    Originally posted by GanduHindu –› "migrant" rhetoric softened View Post
    Bangladeshi ship-wrecked mariners who regularly wash up on the shores of Europe?
    How on earth one gets from (the former) Bengal to Europe escapes me. Or whatever they called themselves pre-partition. And their brethren attacked/blockaded them. So they decamped to Europe? But continued in ((the former) former) East Pakistan anyway? So how come Bangladesh remains populated today?
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    What would you say to a tourist [blow-in] in Alabama who doesn't bother to apply for a U.S. visa
    That is not a tourist. Before I go anywhere, I check out visa requirements—generally speaking I don't need one but just to make sure, you know—then turn up, or maybe I don't but I could if I wanted to, how easy is that?

    Titus 3:1

    Technically, you wouldn't consider me an illegal migrant, right?
    Same as me in Zurich: not if ya gotta visa! GET ONE!! Tweezy ~ using the vernacular. And no, you don't have to keep moving. Just get a visa. Often they're available at borders anyway. But what has this to do with Bible verses? Albania, Scotland, New South Wales, all have laws and to comply is straightforward: say if somewhere my "world view" gets my head chopped off: I wouldn't go there. And if escaping from one such hellhole, very unlikely to promote its ideology at the nearest safe haven. How do you think Paul's belief system aligns with this paradigm?

    Romans 2:13
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    • #32
      The Bible begins with the fundamental truth that every person is created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27).​ This foundational concept instills the intrinsic value, dignity, and worth of every individual, regardless of their nationality, ethnicity, or legal status.​

      Nevertheless, in Acts 17:26, we read: "And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place."

      This suggests that the existence of distinct nations and borders is determined by God. So, overall I believe that each nation has the right to defend its borders and to set policies for immigration. If Jesus meets the criteria He is admissible otherwise He can rot in a cage. This is directly from the Bible.​
      If I have seen further, it is by standing on the heads of others.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole View Post
        The Bible begins with the fundamental truth that every person is created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27).​ This foundational concept instills the intrinsic value, dignity, and worth of every individual, regardless of their nationality, ethnicity, or legal status.​
        The “intrinsic value, dignity, and worth” of any individual (or group) may not be what they proclaim for themselves. Indoctrinated savages could announce that all Christians were beneath them, for example, and required to pay some made-up tax to fund the savage lifestyle due to intrinsic higher value of savages and the vile god they obsess over. After all, God has described very easy parameters for determining that.

        Nevertheless, in Acts 17:26, we read: "And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place."
        Acts 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us

        Satan seems not to read The Bible and perhaps I'm overly tolerant, yet do they need to rot in a cage? Couldn't they just return home? Having chosen to flout the law by paying tens of thousands of dollars to a people smuggler—when they could just have gotten visas + airfare at a fraction of that price—are they not demonstrating exactly the deficiency driving wherever they come from into the pits? Because the leaders there have the same heritage and therefore the same mental deficiencies informing their policies and every decision they'll ever make? Hell is probably similar. Or am I getting confused?

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        • #34
          There is no doubt that "every person is created in the image of God" but plenty go off the rails as, unlike the congregation of Landover, they follow something that is not the "Word of God".

          I think that it is made clear in
          M't:7:16: Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
          M't:7:17: Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
          M't:7:18: A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
          M't:7:19: Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
          M't:7:20: Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


          We know that immigrants are rapists and drug dealers. It is said by liberals that some aren't, and yet a moment's ​thought would bring a sensible person to the view that "They aren't because they've not had the opportunity."

          This bit about hewing down and casting immigrants into the fire, is no more than the current Administration under the leadership of Donald is doing by sending them back home. Yes, Donald is fulfilling the prophecy.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
            There is no doubt that "every person is created in the image of God" but plenty go off the rails as, unlike the congregation of Landover, they follow something that is not the "Word of God".
            I think that it is made clear in
            M't:7:16: Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
            M't:7:17: Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
            M't:7:18: A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
            M't:7:19: Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
            M't:7:20: Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

            We know that immigrants are rapists and drug dealers. It is said by liberals that some aren't, and yet a moment's ​thought would bring a sensible person to the view that "They aren't because they've not had the opportunity."
            This bit about hewing down and casting immigrants into the fire, is no more than the current Administration under the leadership of Donald is doing by sending them back home. Yes, Donald is fulfilling the prophecy.
            A profound post, Pastor Bathfire. It illustrates why we at Landover Baptist have your pastoral position, Pastor of Tolerance and Diversity. Like Donald Trump, you teach us human beings are a diverse lot, colors, cultures, beliefs, etc. The Scripture you quote informs us how to deal with this diversity, to keep those parts of humanity that harm us at arm's length. In some cases that is on the other side of an ocean. We are grateful for you and Donald Trump for carrying out God's will.

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            Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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