[Pim Pendergast]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

And I'm pretty sure his ideas weren't being reflected in society at the time or he wouldn't have had to spend time teaching anyone..

Just like English doesn't have to be taught in all schools to students who already speak English as a first language, or evolution doesn't have to be taught in a society that by and large accepts it, or math doesn't have to be taught, or Christians don't have to be taught in church every Sunday how to follow a God they already follow.

And many of Buddha's teachings, if he existed, were most definitely reflected the culture of his time. Buddhism has its roots in hinduism.

Hinduism it is clear has heavily influenced and inspired most of the religions which sprung from this land namely Sikhism, Jainism etc. including Buddhism. Hinduism and Buddhism have shared parallel beliefs that have existed side by side.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

Because he's right and any logical thinking person would know he's right. I follow parts of his teachings because I think it's the right thing to do. We're in agreement on parts of his teachings. Especially the logical parts. It's also fascinating that he lived so long ago yet still came up with so many things agreeable with modern science.

It's also harder to come up with this than you'd think because he had original ideas while your moral code was built on society's morals.

If he was right then his teachings would match the Bible. This is how we know he was wrong. Also, you won't find the truth by talking to that dumb queer.

[Alkalai]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

Everyone's moral code is built on the culture they grow up in. Unless you are brought up by wolves you will be inculcated with the mores and values of your culture.

Same with Bhudda. He just had a good publicist.

Think for your self. Find your own path.

Who came up with it in the first place then? It was a lot of people, but I think Bhudda was one of the first and probably the first to come up with his ideas. I obviously have my own ideas, but it doesn't mean I can't agree with some of Bhudda's ideas as well.

And I'm pretty sure his ideas weren't being reflected in society at the time or he wouldn't have had to spend time teaching anyone..

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

Link to Bhudda's false teachings.

http://online.sfsu.edu/rone/Buddhism/footsteps.htm

I don't worship Bhudda. Also don't think he wanted anyone to worship him. I just think he was a wise man guiding people towards inner peace.
His teachings don't dictate my actions, but they're a guide. Way more helpful than the bible, for me anyway. Would probably be useful for all of you too.

I see karma is listed under the basic teachings of buddha. Do you believe in karma? Do you think that if a woman is beaten by her husband in this life, it means she was a wife-beating husband in a previous life? Do you believe buddha was tempted by the evil one before reaching "enlightenment?" I think you're a cherry-picker. But how do you decide which bits are true? Do you just choose the warm, fuzzy bits that don't contradict secular science?

Because he's right and any logical thinking person would know he's right. I follow parts of his teachings because I think it's the right thing to do. We're in agreement on parts of his teachings. Especially the logical parts. It's also fascinating that he lived so long ago yet still came up with so many things agreeable with modern science.

It's also harder to come up with this than you'd think because he had original ideas while your moral code was built on society's morals.

First you say that buddha is right and any logical person would know it. Then you say that you follow the logical parts of his teachings because you think it's the right thing to do. By saying this you are acknowledging that many of buddhas teachings were illogical and therefore wrong. You follow buddha's teaching because you think it's the right thing to do. That makes you no different from, say, a fundamentalist muslim who follows mohammed's teaching because it seems like the right thing to do. I myself follow Jesus' teachings because I believe He is right. God's Word shows us the right thing to do.

[FreeFromBrains]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

Because he's right and any logical thinking person would know he's right. I follow parts of his teachings because I think it's the right thing to do. We're in agreement on parts of his teachings. Especially the logical parts. It's also fascinating that he lived so long ago yet still came up with so many things agreeable with modern science.

It's also harder to come up with this than you'd think because he had original ideas while your moral code was built on society's morals.

Everyone's moral code is built on the culture they grow up in. Unless you are brought up by wolves you will be inculcated with the mores and values of your culture.

Same with Bhudda. He just had a good publicist.

Think for your self. Find your own path.

[Alkalai]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

Why do you need to live by anyone else's teachings? Don't you have the brains to come up with a way if living your life by yourself?

Bhudda lived in the old days so how can his teaching be better than what a decent sensible contempory person could come up with.

You are abdicating your autonomy and it stinks!

Because he's right and any logical thinking person would know he's right. I follow parts of his teachings because I think it's the right thing to do. We're in agreement on parts of his teachings. Especially the logical parts. It's also fascinating that he lived so long ago yet still came up with so many things agreeable with modern science.

It's also harder to come up with this than you'd think because he had original ideas while your moral code was built on society's morals.

[FreeFromBrains]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

Proper link to Bhudda's teachings.

http://online.sfsu.edu/rone/Buddhism/footsteps.htm

I don't worship Bhudda. Also don't think he wanted anyone to worship him. I just think he was a wise man guiding people towards inner peace.
His teachings don't dictate my actions, but they're a guide. Way more helpful than the bible, for me anyway. Would probably be useful for all of you too.

Why do you need to live by anyone else's teachings? Don't you have the brains to come up with a way if living your life by yourself?

Bhudda lived in the old days so how can his teaching be better than what a decent sensible contempory person could come up with.

You are abdicating your autonomy and it stinks!

[Alkalai]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

So you'd rather worship an obese dead chink than the Savior of Mankind? What kind of a perverted race traitor are you?

That booda guy was a demon. Take a look at THIS!

Proper link to Bhudda's teachings.

http://online.sfsu.edu/rone/Buddhism/footsteps.htm

I don't worship Bhudda. Also don't think he wanted anyone to worship him. I just think he was a wise man guiding people towards inner peace.
His teachings don't dictate my actions, but they're a guide. Way more helpful than the bible, for me anyway. Would probably be useful for all of you too.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

Hence why I was reluctant in revealing my religion. I did say "parts which logically make sense." If you think all of that is logical.. okay then.

What has any of that to do with if you are right?

We know we are right because the bible tells us so. Why try to make it all complicated by giving a damn what some dead chink said?

Seriously, you geek freaks really baffle me. I'm sure "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife..." makes no logical sense to an adulterer in the same way as But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: makes no logical sense to someone who takes "Thou shalt not kill" out of context. You need to read the whole thing to understand the reality of God and how it all makes perfect sense.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

I'm not strongly religious, I just believe in parts of the teachings of Buddha which I think logically make sense. Higher being? I believe in the possibility of a higher being.

So you'd rather worship an obese dead chink than the Savior of Mankind? What kind of a perverted race traitor are you?

That booda guy was a demon. Take a look at THIS!

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

I'm not strongly religious, I just believe in parts of the teachings of Buddha which I think logically make sense.

So which bits have you decided are true? Do you believe in Nirvana? Do you pray? Do you sometimes visit a temple? Do you believe the Dalai Lama is a reincarnation of previous spiritual leaders?

Why is the Bible your strict moral code? Because it's the word of God? Why do you trust God? Because the Bible tells you to.

Basically. See the OP.

You get to decide what religion does for you. But your religion supports racism, intolerance, violence(beating people? the heck?), and apparently slavery too.

But we don't get to decide. We follow the Bible. We do what God wants us to do. If we don't get to decide, then clearly not everyone gets to decide for themselves what religion does for them. So why do you get to decide? Doesn't each religion stipulate its own purpose? For example, doesn't buddhism teach that its main purpose is to end suffering through eliminating ignorance and craving so that one can achieve Nirvana?

My conscience tells me these things are wrong, hence why I think your ideas are twisted. I don't need a book to tell me what's right or wrong, I can decide that for myself. Now obviously we were raised differently, which influences our choices. But those things I stated don't make me feel any better, instead I feel disgusted by them and by this religion.

If you're conscience is your ultimate guide, why follow buddhism?

[Alkalai]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

Friend, I do not see how the worship of a satanic slant-eyed symbol of a certain rotundness of a golden calf makes any sense. You may as well worship a stick in the mud.

You are in grave danger of a sickular fascination with a homersexural lifestyle and an inherant aberration agains all things holy because your own lust will surrender you to the power of temptation; True-Christians™ do not have this problem because we cannot be tempted with no more than we can handle; however, your satanic practices rectally open you up to all forms of unholy cognitions, a lisp, crossdressing, and other forms of debachery and abomination such as the liberal agenda.

Hence why I was reluctant in revealing my religion. I did say "parts which logically make sense." If you think all of that is logical.. okay then.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

I'm not strongly religious, I just believe in parts of the teachings of Buddha which I think logically make sense.

Friend, I do not see how the worship of a satanic slant-eyed symbol of a certain rotundness of a golden calf makes any sense. You may as well worship a stick in the mud.

You are in grave danger of a sickular fascination with a homersexural lifestyle and an inherant aberration agains all things holy because your own lust will surrender you to the power of temptation; True-Christians™ do not have this problem because we cannot be tempted with no more than we can handle; however, your satanic practices rectally open you up to all forms of unholy cognitions, a lisp, crossdressing, and other forms of debachery and abomination such as the liberal agenda.

1 Corinthians

10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
10:8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
10:9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10:10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
10:14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.

[Alkalai]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

So you are religious, but you're not a Bible-believing Christian. I could shift the burden of proof onto you. What proof do you have that your religion is right? If you get to decide what the purpose of religion is, then you have pretty much removed the need for a higher authority (God). And if you think there is no God, no one higher than yourself, you might as well go all the way and become an atheist. When you tell us that our view of the purpose of religion is twisted, what authority do you base that on? If you get to decide that religion is about peace of mind and well-being, maybe we get to decide it's about following the Bible and it's strict moral code to the letter. And if each person gets to decide for themselves, then how can we be wrong, as you claim?

Just remember that you are a guest here and this is not a debate forum. You are not here to tell us how we are wrong; we are here to show you the error of your ways. I believe I have answered all of your questions to the best of my ability. I haven't ignored any of them. If you respond to this, please tell us what your religion is.

I'm not strongly religious, I just believe in parts of the teachings of Buddha which I think logically make sense. Higher being? I believe in the possibility of a higher being.

It's twisted because of all the ridiculous crap on this site. Sticking to reality as we know it, the evidence supports stars as balls of energy. Evolution as a fairly solid theory. It does not support the existence of God and certainly not the Bible or stars as diamonds or a flat earth.

Why is the Bible your strict moral code? Because it's the word of God? Why do you trust God? Because the Bible tells you to. If someone were to create a flow chart about your religion, it'd go around in this circle without a real answer. And the real answer would probably come when you ask yourselves what the driving force is. The basic motivation that causes you to believe? Want of happiness? Peace of mind? ...hunger?

You get to decide what religion does for you. But your religion supports racism, intolerance, violence(beating people? the heck?), and apparently slavery too. My conscience tells me these things are wrong, hence why I think your ideas are twisted. I don't need a book to tell me what's right or wrong, I can decide that for myself. Now obviously we were raised differently, which influences our choices. But those things I stated don't make me feel any better, instead I feel disgusted by them and by this religion.


Also. I can see why this isn't a debate forum, you're all horrible at it.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: The fatal flaw in atheistic thinking exposed in one simple diagram!

I decide the purpose of religion in my view. It's what religion does for me personally. Probably doesn't apply to you. I'm telling you that what you think the purpose of religion is is probably really twisted, judging by these forums.

Gonna ignore that question about my religion seeing as I'm here to tell you how you're wrong.

So you are religious, but you're not a Bible-believing Christian. I could shift the burden of proof onto you. What proof do you have that your religion is right? If you get to decide what the purpose of religion is, then you have pretty much removed the need for a higher authority (God). And if you think there is no God, no one higher than yourself, you might as well go all the way and become an atheist. When you tell us that our view of the purpose of religion is twisted, what authority do you base that on? If you get to decide that religion is about peace of mind and well-being, maybe we get to decide it's about following the Bible and it's strict moral code to the letter. And if each person gets to decide for themselves, then how can we be wrong, as you claim?

Just remember that you are a guest here and this is not a debate forum. You are not here to tell us how we are wrong; we are here to show you the error of your ways. I believe I have answered all of your questions to the best of my ability. I haven't ignored any of them. If you respond to this, please tell us what your religion is.