[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: What you must do to be saved

You sound like Judas.

John 12: 3Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.
4Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him,
5Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?
6This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.
7Then said Jesus, Let her alone: against the day of my burying hath she kept this.
8For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always.

Do not forget, prior to his treachery, Judas was a Disciple, do you suggest that his statement here is of some significance whereas statements made by other disciples questioning Jesus' actions were not? Or perhaps you see the answer as prophetic and ironic?

The above verses are touching yet, in a crude translation, amount to little more than, "Hey, leave her alone, she's my mom. Moms do that sort of thing." [It's true; they do] Hardly enough, you may admit, to warrant 3,000,000 statues being erected, and a cult to arise based on nothing more than a jar of ointment (albeit and expensive one.)

[James Peter]

Re: What you must do to be saved

Wow, you Biblical illiterate POSER! I thought you people were supposed to be the greatest experts on the Bible, and yet you just made an enormous blunder. This passage is referring to Mary MAGDALENE, not the Blessed Virgin.

And the text clearly states Judas only questions Jesus' actions because he is a thief and a liar.

[Rosaline Aurora]

Re: What you must do to be saved

Where does the Bible say believe and then be baptized?


It's not confusing for anyone with reading comprehension skills, but you are just a woman, so I forgive you.



I will stop insulting you idiotic Protestant losers once you have apologized for changing for user title to Papist Stooge.

Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Act 2:41
Then they that gladly recieved his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

Acts 8:36-38
And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water:and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
And Philip said, if thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.


I have nothing to do with the "Papist Stooge" title. Although it does seem quite fitting, in my opinion.

[Rosaline Aurora]

Re: What you must do to be saved

You do realize that bowing down to statues of "the blessed virgin" is idolatry, right?

Perhaps you should read this tract from Jack Chick. Oh, and this one, too!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What you must do to be saved

You do realize that bowing down to statues of "the blessed virgin" is idolatry, right?

Perhaps you should read this tract from Jack Chick. Oh, and this one, too!

Amen sister! Rub that mary-worshiper's nose in his own revolting sin.

[Rosaline Aurora]

Re: What you must do to be saved

Thank you, Pastor Ezekiel!

Oh, I almost forgot this one!

[James Peter]

Re: What you must do to be saved

Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Act 2:41
Then they that gladly recieved his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

Acts 8:36-38
And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water:and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
And Philip said, if thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.


I have nothing to do with the "Papist Stooge" title. Although it does seem quite fitting, in my opinion.

Look, I really don't care what you have to say, you are a woman. Your opinions are worthless.

http://www.catholic.com/library/Infant_Baptism.asp

Specific Biblical References?


But, one might ask, does the Bible ever say that infants or young children can be baptized? The indications are clear. In the New Testament we read that Lydia was converted by Paul’s preaching and that "She was baptized, with her household" (Acts 16:15). The Philippian jailer whom Paul and Silas had converted to the faith was baptized that night along with his household. We are told that "the same hour of the night . . . he was baptized, with all his family" (Acts 16:33). And in his greetings to the Corinthians, Paul recalled that, "I did baptize also the household of Stephanas" (1 Cor. 1:16).

In all these cases, whole households or families were baptized. This means more than just the spouse; the children too were included. If the text of Acts referred simply to the Philippian jailer and his wife, then we would read that "he and his wife were baptized," but we do not. Thus his children must have been baptized as well. The same applies to the other cases of household baptism in Scripture.

Granted, we do not know the exact age of the children; they may have been past the age of reason, rather than infants. Then again, they could have been babes in arms. More probably, there were both younger and older children. Certainly there were children younger than the age of reason in some of the households that were baptized, especially if one considers that society at this time had no reliable form of birth control. Furthermore, given the New Testament pattern of household baptism, if there were to be exceptions to this rule (such as infants), they would be explicit.