[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean?

Well hello again its been awhile since I last popped in here. Its time to get this ball rolling again.

Hi Ben. I just read your post. At first it seemed to make sense but I have read your posts before and I realized immediately that you are not capable of making a sensible debate. So I looked at the post again. When I compared the number of fonts in it I can see you have simply copied and pasted a cacopheny of ideas from several or even many different sources.

I am glad you are interested in doing Biblical research, but I am disappointed that you must resort to using someone else's work in an attempt to score points without crediting the original authors.

The problem is that since you didn't do the work, we are responding in good faith to someone who will never know where they went wrong and will be thus damned to HELL because of you.

JESUS won't appreciate that and neither do we. If I had been the one you were speaking with I would have banned you for that bit of dishonesty.

[Aguaws]

Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean?

Hi Ben. I just read your post. At first it seemed to make sense but I have read your posts before and I realized immediately that you are not capable of making a sensible debate. So I looked at the post again. When I compared the number of fonts in it I can see you have simply copied and pasted a cacopheny of ideas from several or even many different sources.

I am glad you are interested in doing Biblical research, but I am disappointed that you must resort to using someone else's work in an attempt to score points without crediting the original authors.

The problem is that since you didn't do the work, we are responding in good faith to someone who will never know where they went wrong and will be thus damned to HELL because of you.

JESUS won't appreciate that and neither do we. If I had been the one you were speaking with I would have banned you for that bit of dishonesty.

I picked this Church for a reason my friend. This is where the Final word will be. And again I am not nor never been this Ben you talk about so much.

Well pastor I am sorry to say what I have wrote is not copied and pasted it is my work. I write things down then go back to them. I have been doing this since my awakening

And damning someone to hell I can’t do that. You have already done that for yourself. But I can tell you how to leave here. That’s one of the problems here where you are at. Everyone tries to blame someone else for their fall. An escape goat just as the stories show clearly. For an example John says Jesus said. Mark said John said, Luke said John said. And Jesus said my Father said. I say what I say. I don’t need a book of others my friends. My information comes from within me.

But I will say that I have copied and pasted from others when I first started writing here. Not because of myself but for you. I know what to say but my words if I wrote them as they were you would not understand at all.

I am not debating you what I know is not a debate. And as you should already know debating God is a Sin. Can you pastor explain this climate change? I did before Al Gore even thought about it. It is not Man made nor will it be stopped. It’s the beginning of the cleansing that is taking place. To rid the Bad Fruit from the trees.

Did you know that a white man taught the Mayans what they knew. He came from the sea and returned to the sea. And it was not in a boat. He said that he would return and he has.

Let’s get back to the basics again and make this understandable to the Feeble minded. You my friends are already Damned. You’re here already if you would be teaching that it would make your job a lot easier. You want to leave here and I want you too. That’s why I love talking to preachers they are one of the worst at spreading the escape goat theory. You can not accept that you are already in hell. You put yourself above that which keeps you here.

Let me give you some more history about myself since you are very lost about who I am. I was in Heaven and a place even before that. When I began I started in a place that was much worse than your concept of hell. It was a place without any form or light or warmth not even darkness existed. A void of nothing except Cold a Cold that your mind can not even grasp. There were no others not even a spirit or soul just nothing but myself and my thoughts. A burning hell as in your theory would not even compare. Hell would have been much better than where I came from. At least I would have had company in hell.

I was above this world when I first saw it. My eyes saw the beauty of it and I made it my home. I fell here into the sea again alone as a small fish it was the only way to live. But now I had form and that form grew and changed until I left the sea. I didn’t come here to take a wife. There was no wife to take.

That’s where your books deny you the understanding of what truly is. To be like us as God said to go out and create what I have shown you. That’s what I did my friend and to do as God said you have to Start as God Started my friend. From a Void of nothing just your thoughts and your eyes. Your thoughts come before your Vision. You turn your thoughts into your Vision. Then you can see, before that I couldn’t see I only thought. Now my friend how can I explain something like that to you when you can’t grasp it with your mind. Can you understand that? Let me try to put it another way that maybe you can understand in your way of thinking. You are an image of what God created for us to visualize and make real. You are my Visualization and Image that I created as I was instructed to. You are apart of me as much as I am a part of you. And we are all apart of the whole.

This is why I know what I know. Almost Five years ago God did something great. He approved this Vision I created. He said it was a good image and this image will live and have life forever. The sun you see the planets you see and to mother earth you live upon was given the seal of approval as a good image and example of what God’s true plan is. Can you understand that my friend?

My vision consists and is built and stands on Family. The foundation is based upon a family of FIVE that can not be destroyed if one does the others will bring them back. Lets look at the foundation. I have Father the Light. I have a Mother the Dark. I have a Son the sustainer of Life. I have a Daughter that came from the Light. I have another Daughter that came from the Darkness. Those Five are never Ending and they reside in Heaven as Spirit. Their Souls reside here their souls are the Flesh and Blood of everything that is and has been created. All tied and bonded together made from all that you see and don’t see. You are a part of everything my friend from the smallest cell to the largest form of what you can grasp. But you put yourself above the animals and everything else. You can’t except that they are your True Roots. How can I write this down so you can understand?

I stay here in the west the east is for the ones that think they know God and his plan they are so far from the truth that it makes me sick. The west knew before you came from the east what was going to happen. Jesus brought and lead you here to understand where you truly came from. But you Fail to drop the ways of the east and their evil ways of death and destruction for material gain. It is not going to stay that way my friends.

You can to Salem from Jerusalem to Visit and to Learn. You will be welcome to stay but it is not going to be the of the East. It will be in the Order of the High Priest Hello Again.

I have had 46511 different names since I came here. Something again you can't except. Let me Give you just One and the reason I chose this Church.

John (Join Our Home Now) And the Word was John hard to Accept?

[Aguaws]

Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean?

Life Forever that's your gift but it is much more than you think. You Must Die to attain what you were created for. That's how Gods were created they Die out and End up Here. Just as Jesus told you that you were all Gods. Did he Not? To be like Us is much more than being a God. To become a Being of Creation requires you to put your life down. To start from nothning and to pick yourself back up again. You limit yourselves you hold yourself here not I. Only a few will become like us. Just as you were told by Jesus but you even Deny this. A few will become like Us. The rest will stay here and try and try again creating this Hell over and Over again until you release yourself from this World. You were even told that your Ancestors told you that. You deny and accept very little so very little is what you get. You taste from hardly anything you deny everything. How can you become like us with such limited knowledge?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean?

[...] How can you become like us with such limited knowledge?

Who is "us"? Are you Legion?

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean?

I picked this Church for a reason my friend. This is where the Final word will be. And again I am not nor never been this Ben you talk about so much.

Yes, God's Word and the Return of JESUS will occur through us, and I accept that Ben Calormis is only one of many voices vying for control in your head.

However, unless each of them uses a separate computer or has a separate log-on at yours...and that concept is not beyond the realm of possibility by ANY means...I'm afraid that you only get to speak to us when one specific voice grabs the microphone. And I'm very afraid that one voice is being pulled and tugged by all the other voices.

First you must learn never to dispute a Pastor of the True Church and you must start convincing the other voices to do the same. If you succeed, many of them will depart from you; cast out as demons into swine.

Then you will begin to feel better and we can discuss a tithing schedule.

[Aguaws]

Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean?

Yes, God's Word and the Return of JESUS will occur through us, and I accept that Ben Calormis is only one of many voices vying for control in your head.

However, unless each of them uses a separate computer or has a separate log-on at yours...and that concept is not beyond the realm of possibility by ANY means...I'm afraid that you only get to speak to us when one specific voice grabs the microphone. And I'm very afraid that one voice is being pulled and tugged by all the other voices.

First you must learn never to dispute a Pastor of the True Church and you must start convincing the other voices to do the same. If you succeed, many of them will depart from you; cast out as demons into swine.

Then you will begin to feel better and we can discuss a tithing schedule.

Pastor I desire nothing from you. You have nothing I need. I am truly not this Ben you so dwell upon within your mind. You are correct though that I could manipulate your computer log as to use another or even a proxy server to mask my ip address. When I worked for the world I was a network administrator. And a spook for the military a cryptologist a communications expert for the US Submarine Force. And here in my small town of Greenwood SC, I was the network administrator that maintained all the communications for the city. Their police fire water and electric company. So yes hiding my ip would not be a problem. I am not hiding in fact I would give you my phone number if you would like to talk. It is much easier talking than writing. I will give it freely to who ever would like to talk. I have nothing to hide from anyone.

And why would I not dispute a pastor of any church when I know what is being taught is lacking and denying their followers the Truth? Do you preach and teach that when you die you go straight to heaven or hell? If you do then I would have to stand up and call you a Liar. Because that is not how it goes nor is it the Truth. I would not want to embarrass you in front of your followers.

After my awakening the first preacher I talked to began to cry after I talked to him. You might not accept that but it was witnessed. Then he did a grave thing he lied to me. I saw through it quickly. And wished him well on his journey.

Where in the bible does it say that when you die you go to heaven? Your spirit is gathered and again placed in a temple. Again something you don’t accept so I use it.

You talk about tithing and how it would make me feel better. How much money did Jesus collect? How about not a dime. My glory comes from what I give others not what I collect from them. God has given me everything I need I want for nothing.

The way you stated your tithing schedule makes me believe that you spread the Free Word of God for a Profit I truly hope that is not the case. If it is you will remain here for a very long time my friend.

There is another church here I visited it was called Bold Springs Baptist church. A new preacher that took over for a profit gatherer. The one before him came to my home and the only thing he could muster up to talk about was how to make money. Not a good preacher at all. The man that took over for him the day I went to hear his sermon was touching. But he ended his sermon with something I could not believe. What he told his followers made me cry. He ended his sermon telling people that it was alright to go out and kill muslims. In church he said it was alright to kill. I never returned to that lost perish.

Another preacher I have talked to has a pretty good church. We get along well but I do not attend his church either because I wouldn’t want to embarrass him. So I carry my church with me. I do not carry a bible there is no need for it. Not when you know what is inside of you. I had some JW’s come to my home, two sweet ladies came we talked and then they came back again. Again we talked I frightened them I think with my words. So the next time they came they brought back a man with a bible. We all sat and talked he tried to open his bible but before he could begin to read to me. I told him what he was trying to tell to me before he could read from another’s work. I wanted to know what was in his heart and what he thought and believed.

Another preacher came to my home it was a nice sunny day and we stood outside and talked. This preacher was different than the others he did not bring a bible. We talked as men of faith. He began to talk about how churches have bound seekers to a confined way of believing. I told him yes before you can find your path and your way you have to come out of that box. That grave churches have put their people in. He reached into his pocket and pulled out this little box with Jesus on all of its sides. And he asked me how I knew that he was going to talk to me about being in a box. I just smiled.

You might think that I am putting down churches and preachers but that is not the case at all. People here on this earth are doing as they are required to do. What you see around you is per plan. You are progressing just look around. How many different churches do you see? Thousands of different denominations why? Because they stood up to the pastor and said NO. Some have made good foundations some not very good at all. As per God’s plan it is moving right along my friends.

My church is in my heart my heart speaks my words. My words have no barriers to hold my tongue. When this is all over do you believe there is going to be a church? If so then you are blind to the truth and lost and locked in your grave. Can you accept that this is the end of what was and the beginning to what will become? You wait for a great battle to destroy your enemies. Demons and such at battle in the sky this is not going to happen. Your battle is going to be survival of what is about to happen. Just to eat and to keep warm to help your neighbor in their need.

You have not loved your neighbor as told to do. The one thing Jesus left you with the one thing that came from his heart because he knew. That was his words not the words told to him by his father. Because he Knew.

If Jesus himself was writing this to you it would not be accepted because you only want miracles and great feats for proof. You want signs to see and they are here and you don’t see.

Like I said I need nor want anything from you. I am here to watch to witness what is about to happen. Have you planned or prepared for hard times? Can you provide food when there is none at your store?

Do you live by the sea shore? If so I would move.

Do you leave near the new Madrid fault line? If so I would move.

Just keep an eye on the weather that’s your sign. That’s your proof.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean?

You have not loved your neighbor as told to do. The one thing Jesus left you with the one thing that came from his heart because he knew. That was his words not the words told to him by his father. Because he Knew.

The world is not my neighbor. I love my neighbors of course...everyone in the Church. But the rest are unsaved scum.

If Jesus himself was writing this to you it would not be accepted because you only want miracles and great feats for proof. You want signs to see and they are here and you don’t see.

If JESUS were writing this it would make perfect sense.

Like I said I need nor want anything from you. I am here to watch to witness what is about to happen. Have you planned or prepared for hard times? Can you provide food when there is none at your store?

Most certainly. The flock is entirely self-sufficient.

Do you live by the sea shore? If so I would move.

I live on an island. I will be staying, thanks.

Do you leave near the new Madrid fault line? If so I would move.

Nope. I live on an active volcano.

Just keep an eye on the weather that’s your sign. That’s your proof.

NO! JESUS IS MY SIGN!

[Aguaws]

Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean?

NO! JESUS IS MY SIGN!

And what happens before he appears? I guess nothing for you to worry about.

If JESUS were writing this it would make perfect sense.

Really even after two thousand years his parables are still not understood. I have seen many theories about what people think they mean but none have I seen have nailed there true meaning. Why did he not make them clear and understandable by all? They are all crystal clear to me.

And my friend what did he mean when he told the church leaders you are not from my Father? I thought all things were from God? Hmmmm


Most certainly. The flock is entirely self-sufficient.

I hope so for their sake.

I live on an island. I will be staying, thanks.

That I agree with my friend.

Nope. I live on an active volcano.

You remind me of the ones long ago. The ones that laughed at Noah. It was not a pretty sight nor did they laugh for long nor float very well. Noah cried when he walked upon that Ark.

Noah= No Outcasts Allowed Here
ARK= Adams Righteous Kin

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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You remind me of the ones long ago. The ones that laughed at Noah. It was not a pretty sight nor did they laugh for long nor float very well. Noah cried when he walked upon that Ark.

ARK= Adams Righteous Kin

And you remind me of that gorilla they had on TV a few years back that they claimed could communicate in sign language.

You look like you're saying something, but it's just monkey games.

Enjoy hell.

[Aguaws]

Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean?

Now I know why I had to get out of bed. I couldn't sleep because I knew someone wrote on this thread. I was wondering how long it would take for you to show up with your wisdom and kindness. I am glad to hear from you again and hello.

I am glad that you mentioned animals that could communicate. And they can the bible speaks of one that was allowed to speak.

It was a donkey and what were her words? Everyone thought that the donkey would speak about God. But no that was not her words.

Her words were "What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

And Balaam said unto the ass, Because thou hast mocked me: I would there were a sword in mine hand, for now would I kill thee.

And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? and he said, Nay.

The bible says and shows that animals can talk and gives an example for you to see. Do you accept what is written in the bible about the talking ass?

Jesus took men upon himself you know the sinners they are his. And his father gave them to him with pleasure.

I was created to take and keep the creatures of God. And I took them with pleasure. They will still be here long after you are gone. You are trespassers here on this earth. That's why you pray to forgive your Trespasses.

Haven’t you ever wondered why Trespassing is in the Lord’s Prayer? Well now you know.

God loves his creatures they are Holy and he makes that very clear. He saved many many more of them than he did man. That should make you think...

[Wide-Open]

Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean?

God loves his creatures they are Holy and he makes that very clear. He saved many many more of them than he did man. That should make you think...

OK, now you have done it... you angered me.

LISTEN HERE YOU POMPOUS ASS!

My dog just had a seizure. She was in pain and agony, and pissed and shitted all over the kitchen floor.

That was a step too far. She could have contained herself, but no! What a mess.

So I decided to put her down, as she is CLEARLY posessed with demons and God CLEARLY doesn't care about her. NOT ONE BIT.

Try following the Bible - like I just did - instead of spouting drivel that NOBODY understands. The chapter about the talking ass does NOT mean you have the right to do so on our HOLY forum.

Shape up boy. Now excuse me while I go toss her body into the dumbster and clean up the dung.

Oh, and:

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean?

I am glad that you mentioned animals that could communicate. And they can the bible speaks of one that was allowed to speak.

It was a donkey and what were her words? Everyone thought that the donkey would speak about God. But no that was not her words.

GOD sends bears, lions, whales, locusts, frogs and other creatures to eat, tear or otherwise rend asunder those who do not please Him. However, none have ever spoken to God. They were not made in His image and He does not hear them. I will agree that the words 'donkey' and 'ass' both refer to the same animal for the purpose of this conversation. However, I seem to recall another animal which spoke....not just one. The serpent spoke to Eve. If your Biblical knowledge is that flawed, how can we believe anything that you say?

God loves his creatures they are Holy and he makes that very clear. He saved many many more of them than he did man. That should make you think...

GOD DROWNED all of the animals except the ones Noah took in the Ark. Then Noah killed all the 'clean' ones. More varieties of animal were saved because more varieties of animal EXISTED! Only we are made in GOD'S image.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean?

Now I know why I had to get out of bed. I couldn't sleep because I have demons in my head.

Typo corrected.


I'm pretty sure that God is talking about you here, pal.

God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned.--2 Th.2:11-12

[SayvedByTheLord]

Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean?

Uh oh Kumstain you've pissed off WO. Never a good thing.

[Aguaws]

Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean?

GOD DROWNED all of the animals except the ones Noah took in the Ark. Then Noah killed all the 'clean' ones. More varieties of animal were saved because more varieties of animal EXISTED! Only we are made in GOD'S image.

I don’t think it says anywhere in the Bible that Noah killed ALL the clean animals. They ate of only the clean animals as directed by God. That’s a very big difference and totally wrong. Because you today are still only to eat of the clean animals. If your statement was true we today could not eat any animal.

Also when Adam left the Garden he had specific instructions on how to kill an animal. As in thou shall not Eat the Limb of a Living Animal.

Lets look at what it says in Genesis.

Gen. 9:4-5 4 But flesh; with its soul its blood you shall not eat.
5 However, your blood which belongs to your souls I will demand, of
every beast will I demand it; And at the hand of man, even at the hand of every man's brother, will I require the life of man.

I guess you have limited knowledge about the Six laws given to Adam. Enoch and Noah kept them. You don’t accept Enoch either what a shame. That’s why I took him.

You don’t accept that Animals have Souls so I use it fully.

I already told you that I came from heaven and began my life here as a Fish. And I truly do have a Soul and Spirit. Two very different things my friends. To become like one of us you must have a soul and a spirit. Remember Jesus came with spirit and he took his Soul with him when he departed here. He left here Spirit and Soul yes he took his body with him.

I am the keeper of God’s creatures his animals and things.

Pastor Ezekiel you made a great example in your typo correction.
Now I know why I had to get out of bed. I couldn't sleep because I have demons in my head.

Man has always changed the words to fit them and their purpose not God’s. Thank you for showing everyone how simple it is to change words around to benefit your cause.

Acceptance my friends is powerful when you understand the Full meaning of how it works.

Did Adam leave this earth or did Adam stay here? It is not said anywhere. It is only said that he lived and died. That was the First Adam where is the Second Adam people talk about?

Would you accept that he is here? Do you accept that he is here? Could you accept the possibility that he is here? You had better be careful on this one.

One other thing I love to tell this one. Why did God create Eve? It was not because he wanted a wife. He created Eve because Adam was tired of taking care of the Garden. So God gave him a help mate. Hmmmm