[shol'va]

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Shol'va, the fact is, have you read ALL the new testament? The jesus of the bible did not say all nice things. In fact, he said some very mean things. The nice things don't cancel out the mean things.
For instance, if Dubya Bush suddenly said 'I'm feeling generous, I want to give $10,000 to every poor family in America, but, I also want to drop nuclear weapons on Iraq', his giving the money to the poor would not cancel out nuking innocents in Iraq.

I haven't come to regard the bible the way I do purely because of the old testament and yes, it's a little arrogant of you to presume. I've come to my views of that book after reading the WHOLE THING.

I do admit I'm arrogant, but aren't we all in our own way?

I've read quite a bit of the New Testament, but I don't remember Jesus saying many things that I disagree with... perhaps you could show me a few of the parts that you disagree with?

[Talitha]

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if Dubya Bush suddenly said 'I'm feeling generous, I want to give $10,000 to every poor family in America, but, I also want to drop nuclear weapons on Iraq', his giving the money to the poor would not cancel out nuking innocents in Iraq.

You got a point for a change there Ms hellsmug. BUT Perhaps we should Nuke Iraq AND the poor people in America. Save Tax payers Dollar$ AND we True Christians wouldn't have to put up with the smell any more.

[Star Finder]

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WOW!

This is a great thread. I like how the christers are fighting amounst themselves.

Harry, I don't believe we've met. you speak of

the good sense of secular humanism that is based on reason, science, and common sense.

but everyone knows that the spirits that live inside of rocks, trees and water cause everything to happen. There is no such thing as science or common sense. You need to speak to the sky and bang your head on a rock. That is the way of knowledge.

I would like to hear more explainations about why its stupid to worship a god who wants to be killed. Please continue.

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[shol'va]

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WOW!

but everyone knows that the spirits that live inside of rocks, trees and water cause everything to happen. There is no such thing as science or common sense. You need to speak to the sky and bang your head on a rock. That is the way of knowledge.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA! You must be kidding. Inanimate objects don't have spirits. Spiritualism is great and all, but science allows us to advance our understanding of the universe and benefit humanity. You're completely wrong, if you're at all serious in what you say.

[Belphegor]

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HAHAHAHAHAHA! You must be kidding. Inanimate objects don't have spirits. Spiritualism is great and all, but science allows us to advance our understanding of the universe and benefit humanity. You're completely wrong, if you're at all serious in what you say.

i agree with you =)

[Bobby-Joe]

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HAHAHAHAHAHA! You must be kidding. Inanimate objects don't have spirits. Spiritualism is great and all, but science allows us to advance our understanding of the universe and benefit humanity. You're completely wrong, if you're at all serious in what you say.

Considering how wrong you are on Christianity you are fine one to talk. If we were to follow your example and make things up as we go then Starfinder's rock worship is just a valid as the silly pagan-Christianity you seem to believe in.

Face the facts friend; God created you flawed so your heart will lie to you. Only threw Jesus can you know virtue.

[shol'va]

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Two things I want to say about this. First: somebody isn't practicing what he's preaching up there *looks at Shol'va*. Second: you're condemning atheists' beliefs, which can be thought of as their own religion, whether they admit it or not. Why is it that Rachael can't condemn Christians when she has read their Holy text and has had personal experience with them, but you can do the same to atheists?

Yeah, I admitted I was arrogant but I wrote that after you posted this.

For the second thing, I've had experience with atheists too. And in my experience, it's not enough for them not to believe in a god, they must also act like jerks to anyone who doesn't share their beliefs. Seriously, they ignore all the evidence of God and the supernatural:

Throughout history, people in every single culture have been convinced there is a god.
The complexity and simplicity within eachother found in our universe points to intelligent design... take the human brain, for example.
Human kind's inherent sense of right and wrong cannot be biologically explained.
Out-of-body experiences, where good people see heaven and the bad see hell.
Psychic abilities (telekinesis, prediction of the future, etc.), the ones that can't be explained by frauds.
The higher likelyhood of something happening if we pray or visualize it.

That's all I can think of now... but Rachael can condemn Christians all she likes, yet the fact remains that most Christians are good people. Atheism, however, leads to evil, because if you are atheist and a bad person, you're not going to be punished after you die.

Ditto! I always wonder what it's like to have those things flopping around down there... That has to feel weird. *Shudders*

Take it from me, it does. Sometimes I don't know how I live with it.

[Bobby-Joe]

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Throughout history, people in every single culture have been convinced there is a god.
The complexity and simplicity within eachother found in our universe points to intelligent design... take the human brain, for example.
Human kind's inherent sense of right and wrong cannot be biologically explained.

Wrong friend. Our own sense of right and wrong is driven by pure selfishness. It helps us function in the group of people without risking getting attacked if we are "fare" to our fellow man. Only in the God is there selfless love. You friend are mistaking your own urge toward self preservation as virtue.

[shol'va]

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Face the facts friend; God created you flawed so your heart will lie to you. Only threw Jesus can you know virtue.

I'd rather believe a lie then subscribe to your "virtue".

[Bobby-Joe]

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I'd rather believe a lie then subscribe to your "virtue".

Friend, why do you insist on being so dense. What part of "this is God's vitrue not mine" do you not understand? My sense of right and wrong is just as depraved as yours. If it wasn't for Christ I would be doing the same vile things you do.

[shol'va]

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Wrong friend. Our own sense of right and wrong is driven by pure selfishness. It helps us function in the group of people without risking getting attacked if we are "fare" to our fellow man. Only in the God is there selfless love. You friend are mistaking your own urge toward self preservation as virtue.

Then how come I am revolted at the sight of someone else, not me, being tortured or raped, and want to help them, at risk to my own life if nessecary? Your logic is flawed.

[Bobby-Joe]

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Then how come I am revolted at the sight of someone else, not me, being tortured or raped, and want to help them, at risk to my own life if nessecary? Your logic is flawed.

You are shocked because you see it is possible that you might be the person being abused. God on the other hand has no such selfishness and will send countless millions to and eternity in hell because it is the good thing to do.

[jenova]

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It's the good thing to do? No, it's not a good thing for people to be tortured, how can you possibly think that? Hell is for those who do not believe in God and his word. You can sin for 99 years, and on the 100th year be saved if you truly repent
and your heart is in the right place. God only wants you to be loving, and believe in him.

[jenova]

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Now that I think about it, your signature invokes hatred and racism. It is also a sign of a cult leader. You are telling people that they are free, yet they are not free to make their own decisions. What you say is what God says, right? God will not make you eat children, only a sick freak would believe that. Voting is a free choice, unless you are a communist bastard and the hated enemy of America. People can choose to vote however they want, being a liberal does not make you anti-American, anti-Christian or anti-freedom. All it means is that you believe that is for the best. Obviously, you think that forcing people to beleive everything you believe is correct. It is not, nor is it human or moral.



Vote Republican or God will make you eat your childern for betraying America, Christianity and Freedom.

A free people have the freedom not to question their leaders.

AND WHATS THIS? A TYPO? NO WAY! YOU PEOPLE TOTALLY DESPISE TYPOS AND FLAME ANYONE WHO MAKES THEM.

[Bobby-Joe]

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It's the good thing to do? No, it's not a good thing for people to be tortured, how can you possibly think that? Hell is for those who do not believe in God and his word. You can sin for 99 years, and on the 100th year be saved if you truly repent
and your heart is in the right place. God only wants you to be loving, and believe in him.

True friend, but if you do not accept him, if you are say a monkey worshiping atheist and deny his very existence then what happens? You go to hell to burn for all eternity.