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This is a sticky topic.
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You are overlooking the fact that everything scientific which contradicts God's Inerrant Word is based on FALSE evidence.
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The video just states everything in the bible is right and written by god (no question about it or gods existence) and therefore everything scientific based on REAL evidence is nonsense. Therefore the whole video in the start is totally nonsense
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There was a planecrash with 147 dead people. Only one child survived. So God is REAL!
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Friend,Originally posted by Atheist at Heart View PostI would just love to sit here and tell you why your wrong and listen while you tell me I'm wrong, but I realize all this discussion means absolutely nothing. I will keep believing what I believe and you will believe what you believe. There's nothing that's going to change that. You have faith in the bible and in God. Faith, by definition, is belief without proof.
As the Bible says, look the plank in your eye before complaining about the mote in the eye of another. We have all the proof in the world of God's existence, all of it extra Biblical, please see my signature. But this is besides the point here; were is the proof for non-existence of God? We've been asking weeks now and no Atheists has been able to furnish it.
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Perhaps there's a lesson here for you on the worth of trying to browbeat people from a faith position by yelling, "You're wrong! Your God is fake. Oh, look! Science!"Originally posted by Atheist at Heart View PostI would just love to sit here and tell you why your wrong and listen while you tell me I'm wrong, but I realize all this discussion means absolutely nothing. I will keep believing what I believe and you will believe what you believe. There's nothing that's going to change that. You have faith in the bible and in God. Faith, by definition, is belief without proof. If you want to blindly believe something, what can I do to change that? As for you changing me, you won't have any more luck. I've been through all of this and more for hours and hours and hours. Contrary to what you may believe, I've read the bible, I think about religion and all sorts of reasons why it might be true or not. I spend many sleepless nights brooding over everything from the validity of the bible to the implications of religion in politics. Don't you think that I am just pulling all of this out of my ass. I have gone over this again and again in my head, slowly knotting together my own beliefs based on my understanding of what I know and have read, and nothing you do will ever change that. The only thing that will change my way of thinking is if you provide me with some sort of PHYSICAL evidence, that isn't the bible, of why the bible is true and god exists.
P.S. I was born and raised Christian. I went through all of the teaching and sermons, taking it all in, believing it was true. Don't think that I don't know about the bible and how Christianity works. I know as much as any other person does, if not more!
So why did you come here again?
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So you choose damnation. So be it. I had hoped you were a latent Christian who just needed to hear the Word. After all, the LORD draws His elect to our Godly forum, like a beacon. It seems He brought you here for an entirely different reason, though. It seems that your only purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others, for it is apparent that He has preordained you to eternal torments in the fiery pits of hell.Originally posted by Atheist at Heart View PostI will keep believing what I believe and you will believe what you believe. There's nothing that's going to change that.
I'm just glad that God has chosen me and my True Christian™ brothers and sisters to stand among His elect and join Him in Heaven, where we will praise Him eternally while you and the rest of the unsaved trash are cast into eternal hellfire, where there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
The following verses apply to you:
II Thessalonians 2:11-12
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
While the next verse applies to me and the rest of my brothers and sisters in Christ!
II Thessalonians 2:13
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
Sucks to be you!
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Thank you! You just boosted my confidence level from 0 to 1.Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View PostWow, we have the world's greatest Biblical scholar in our midst !
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Wow, we have the world's greatest Biblical scholar in our midst !Originally posted by Atheist at Heart View PostI would just love to sit here and tell you why your wrong and listen while you tell me I'm wrong, but I realize all this discussion means absolutely nothing. I will keep believing what I believe and you will believe what you believe. There's nothing that's going to change that. You have faith in the bible and in God. Faith, by definition, is belief without proof. If you want to blindly believe something, what can I do to change that? As for you changing me, you won't have any more luck. I've been through all of this and more for hours and hours and hours. Contrary to what you may believe, I've read the bible, I think about religion and all sorts of reasons why it might be true or not. I spend many sleepless nights brooding over everything from the validity of the bible to the implications of religion in politics. Don't you think that I am just pulling all of this out of my ass. I have gone over this again and again in my head, slowly knotting together my own beliefs based on my understanding of what I know and have read, and nothing you do will ever change that. The only thing that will change my way of thinking is if you provide me with some sort of PHYSICAL evidence, that isn't the bible, of why the bible is true and god exists.
P.S. I was born and raised Christian. I went through all of the teaching and sermons, taking it all in, believing it was true. Don't think that I don't know about the bible and how Christianity works. I know as much as any other person does, if not more!
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I would just love to sit here and tell you why your wrong and listen while you tell me I'm wrong, but I realize all this discussion means absolutely nothing. I will keep believing what I believe and you will believe what you believe. There's nothing that's going to change that. You have faith in the bible and in God. Faith, by definition, is belief without proof. If you want to blindly believe something, what can I do to change that? As for you changing me, you won't have any more luck. I've been through all of this and more for hours and hours and hours. Contrary to what you may believe, I've read the bible, I think about religion and all sorts of reasons why it might be true or not. I spend many sleepless nights brooding over everything from the validity of the bible to the implications of religion in politics. Don't you think that I am just pulling all of this out of my ass. I have gone over this again and again in my head, slowly knotting together my own beliefs based on my understanding of what I know and have read, and nothing you do will ever change that. The only thing that will change my way of thinking is if you provide me with some sort of PHYSICAL evidence, that isn't the bible, of why the bible is true and god exists.Originally posted by Jedediah View PostWe are not alike! Unless you lead others to receive Salvation through sanctification of the Spirit, by way of the BLOOD of JESUS, you are not saving anyone. Besides, the Holy Bible (KJV 1611) is clear that we are to have no fellowship with the unsaved.
II Corinthians 6:14-17
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
And what you consider to be narrow-mindedness and stubbornness is just a reflection of the distance you place between yourself and your Creator. The fact that you come to our Christian forum and deny the fruits of the Spirit makes that as clear as day. Your ways are foolishness with the LORD, and they are vain.
I Corinthians 3:18-20
Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
P.S. I was born and raised Christian. I went through all of the teaching and sermons, taking it all in, believing it was true. Don't think that I don't know about the bible and how Christianity works. I know as much as any other person does, if not more!
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We are not alike! Unless you lead others to receive Salvation through sanctification of the Spirit, by way of the BLOOD of JESUS, you are not saving anyone. Besides, the Holy Bible (KJV 1611) is clear that we are to have no fellowship with the unsaved.
II Corinthians 6:14-17
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
And what you consider to be narrow-mindedness and stubbornness is just a reflection of the distance you place between yourself and your Creator. The fact that you come to our Christian forum and deny the fruits of the Spirit makes that as clear as day. Your ways are foolishness with the LORD, and they are vain.
I Corinthians 3:18-20
Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
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You and me are alike here. We both have the same goal. We both want to help and save others. You want to save them from sin, and I want to them from their narrow-minded, stubborn ways.Originally posted by Jedediah View PostYou aren't my neighbor, boy. I suggest you read Pastor Sampson's sermon:
Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?
Besides, I am trying to help you. If my heart was not troubled by the fact that you are choosing eternal damnation over Jesus' kind offer of Redemption, would I be spending my time typing this post to share the Good News with you?
You don't have to go to hell, you know. It's not too late to make the necessary changes in your life, that you may join us in Heaven. All you have to do is satisfy the conditions necessary to receive Jesus' unconditional love. It's a gift, freely given. You just have to turn your life over to Him, fear Him, and obey His commandments for the rest of your life. He died (temporarily) for your sins. It's the least you could do.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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You aren't my neighbor, boy. I suggest you read Pastor Sampson's sermon:Originally posted by Atheist at Heart View PostEven if some random person walked into your room while you were sleeping, lit you on fire, and killed you, I would still pity you to some extent. The way you say it, you would just as soon mock and feed off of the dying mans pain than try to help him in any way. Love thy neighbor as yourself? More like urinate on his smoldering corpse.
Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?
Besides, I am trying to help you. If my heart was not troubled by the fact that you are choosing eternal damnation over Jesus' kind offer of Redemption, would I be spending my time typing this post to share the Good News with you?
You don't have to go to hell, you know. It's not too late to make the necessary changes in your life, that you may join us in Heaven. All you have to do is satisfy the conditions necessary to receive Jesus' unconditional love. It's a gift, freely given. You just have to turn your life over to Him, fear Him, and obey His commandments for the rest of your life. He died (temporarily) for your sins. It's the least you could do.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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Even if some random person walked into your room while you were sleeping, lit you on fire, and killed you, I would still pity you to some extent. The way you say it, you would just as soon mock and feed off of the dying mans pain than try to help him in any way. Love thy neighbor as yourself? More like urinate on his smoldering corpse.Originally posted by Jedediah View PostWell of course you won't, since you'll be in the middle of the rest of the sinners, enduring unfathomable torments for all eternity. There's a lot of things you won't like about it if you don't turn your life around and get right with Jesus.
For us True Christians™, though, it won't really bother us what's going on down in the lake of fire with you and the rest of the recalcitrant sinners.
Revelation 21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Sadness and sorrow will be a thing of the past for those of us in Heaven, pressed against Jesus' bosom for all eternity, praising Him. At most, we may feel a sense of... contented bemusement... at your ceaseless anguish. Praise!
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Well of course you won't, since you'll be in the middle of the rest of the sinners, enduring unfathomable torments for all eternity. There's a lot of things you won't like about it if you don't turn your life around and get right with Jesus.Originally posted by Atheist at Heart View PostEver seen God? Don't tell me - he's invisible. And you've read about him and told me about him. As for morality...I'm not the one who would enjoy watching others burn in hell.
For us True Christians™, though, it won't really bother us what's going on down in the lake of fire with you and the rest of the recalcitrant sinners.
Revelation 21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Sadness and sorrow will be a thing of the past for those of us in Heaven, pressed against Jesus' bosom for all eternity, praising Him. At most, we may feel a sense of... contented bemusement... at your ceaseless anguish. Praise!
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Ever seen God? Don't tell me - he's invisible. And you've read about him and told me about him. As for morality...I'm not the one who would enjoy watching others burn in hell.Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View PostWhy are you so keen to make up false gods. God tells you not to several times. Just another example of the hateful lawlessness of those with no moral compass.
Perhaps there's a very good reason why the Bible doesn't mention these ridiculous inventions of science. Ever seen an atom or a black hole? Thought not. Don't tell me - they're invisible but you've read about them and been told about them
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