[John the Monkey Worshiper]

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That video is an excellent summary of the proper Christian attitude toward arrogant know-nothings, uneducated braggarts, illiterate provincials, and other scientific types.

"The Bible is the inerrant ... word of the living God. It is absolutely infallible, without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etc." -- Jerry Falwell, Finding Inner Peace and Strength

God knows all, and is eternal. In the Bible He gave a compendium of ultimate and perfect wisdom to mankind. We can make an educated guess at what God considered important by looking at what He chose to put into His great book.

God believes it is important that mankind know that He killed King Jehoram by making his intestines fall out of his ass. God considers knowledge of King Jehoram's prolapse more important than knowing about electricity, antibiotics, or higher math.

In fact, the Omniscient Scientist apparently thinks science in general is not very important -- the Bible reveals nothing about atomic theory, or stoichiometric chemistry, or optics. It would have been very useful for God's children to have binoculars during their military campaigns in Canaan -- not to mention weapons made of high-carbon steel! -- but God did not think lenses and metallurgy important enough to mention in His Book of Wisdom.

So it is very likely that God really doesn't want mankind to have refrigerators and televisions, heart surgery and painless dentistry. Looking at the wisdom God passed on to mankind in His book of eternal wisdom, it seems that God really prefers mankind to live in an early-Iron-Age society.

Much like the Dark Ages of Europe, with Baptists instead of Catholics as the Godly elite.

I am cast into gloom by our modern, anti-God society. It is simply not Biblical. And it is the fault of scientists and technologists. Bastards!

~~ OEJ

I want first of all to say that I have no quarrel and no argument and I wish to express no contempt for individual devout and pious members of that church. It would be impertinent and wrong of me to express any antagonism towards any individual who wishes to find salvation in whatever form they wish to express it. That to me is sacrosanct as much as any article of faith is sacrosanct to anyone of any church or any faith in the world. It’s very important. It’s also very important to me, as it happens, that I have my own beliefs. They are a belief in the Enlightenment, a belief in the eternal adventure of trying to discover moral truth in the world, and there is nothing, sadly, that the Catholic Church and its hierarchs likes to do more than to attack the Enlightenment. It did so at the time: reference was made to Galileo and the fact that he was tortured, for trying to explain the Copernican theory of the Universe. Just imagine in this square mile how many people were burned for reading the Bible in English. And one of the principle burners and torturers of those who tried to read the Bible in English, here in London, was Thomas More. Now, that’s a long time ago, it’s not relevant, except that it was only last century that Thomas More was made a saint, and it was only in the year 2000, that the last pope, the Pole, he made Thomas More the Patron Saint of Politicians. This is a man who put people on the wrack for daring to own a Bible in English: he tortured them for owning a Bible in their own language. The idea that the Catholic Church exists to disseminate the word of the Lord is nonsense. It is the only owner of the Truth for the billions that it likes to boast about, because those billions are uneducated and poor, as again it likes to boast about. It’s perhaps unfair of me, as a gay man, to moan at this enormous institution, which is the largest and most powerful church on Earth, has over a billion, as they like to tell us, members, each one of whom is under strict instructions to believe the dogmas of the church, but may wrestle with them personally of course. It’s hard for me to be told that I’m evil, because I think of myself as someone who is filled with love, whose only purpose in life was to achieve love, and who feels love for so much of nature and the world and for everything else. We certainly don’t need the stigmatisation, the victimisation, that leads to the playground bullying when people say you’re a disordered, morally evil individual. That’s not nice, it isn’t nice. The kind of cruelty in Catholic education, the kind of child—let’s not call it child abuse, it was child rape—the kind of child rape that went on systematically for so long, let’s imagine that we can overlook this and say that it is nothing whatever to do with the structure and nature of the Catholic Church, and the twisted and neurotic and hysterical way that its leaders are chosen, the celibacy, the nuns, the monks, the priesthood, this is not natural and normal, ladies and gentlemen, in 2009, it really isn’t.

Do you know who would be the last person ever to be accepted as a prince of the Church? The Galileean carpenter. That Jew. They would kick him out before he tried to cross the threshold. He would be so ill-at-ease in the Church. What would he think, what would he think of St. Peter’s? What would he think of the wealth, and the power, and the self-justification, and the wheedling apologies? The Pope could decide that all this power, all this wealth, this hierarchy of princes and bishops and archbishops and priests and monks and nuns could be sent out in the world with money and art treasures, to put them back in the countries that they once raped and violated, they could give that money away, and they could concentrate on the apparent essence of their belief, and then, I would stand here and say the Catholic Church may well be a force for good in the world, but until that day, it is not

[Rev. Edward Clement]

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I would say this is clutching at straws more like it

Friend, that makes no sense. I never use homersexural straws to drink any drink, and the only time I use a clutch is when I am driving my 785 horse power, 565 cubic inch, 4 wheel drive Chevy.

Friend, what did your education system do to you? Them communiss, satanic lieberals and their Harry Fotter memorabiolia have lead you astray.

Ecclesiastes

11:4 He that observeth the wind shall not sow; and he that regardeth the clouds shall not reap.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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I would say this is clutching at straws more like it

Hello, and welcome to our friendly forums! I'd be most interested in learning where in the Holy Bible you find this idea. In the meantime, please introduce yourself HERE so we can greet you properly! Be sure to read this helpful guide for newcomers, and remember, if you want to share your opinion, kindly provide the scriptural support for it.

[Bort the simpleton]

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Mr Current has a lesson for us all here: The Bible says it and the Bible is the Word of God and thus God must exist. I feel we need to maintain that clear Vision of Faith and I believe the Godless Unsaved Trash could then start their march towards Salvation™! Praise!

I would say this is clutching at straws more like it

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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Umm, this actually doesn't prove anything

Friend, it's Xmas day!

Can't you people get off Jesus' case for just one day?

Lay off the hate pal!

YIC

[foster64]

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Umm, this actually doesn't prove anything

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Going around the topic, that is the game I speak of.

This forum is horrible.

I have a very meaningful life, open your mind for a change.

Dear Godmocking Whore;

Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule of worshiping satan and spreading your legs for anyone with a dollar to post this hateful message. The Holy Bible tells us that we are actually Blessed by your persecution! Thanks for proving that we're right.

Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Enjoy hell. I know that Jesus and I can't wait to watch you burn in hell for all eternity. Oh, how we'll laugh at you as you scream in agony! Shout Glory!!

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

[Nerddy]

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There is no proof that god is real. Do you think it would be even a discussion if there was solid proof. Can you deny that you see the light coming off of your computer screen right now.

The bible is the proof yoh

[Rev. Edward Clement]

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open your mind for a change.

Friend, we are not permitted to have what you call an open mind(the devil's playground of monkeyworship and all things homersexural) because we have the mind of jesus and He thinks for us.

Proverbs
3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

1 Corinthians
2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

[Average Fool]

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Going around the topic, that is the game I speak of.

This forum is horrible.

I have a very meaningful life, open your mind for a change.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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First off I'm not an antheist. Get your facts straight.

Are you saying you sensed this post and imagined what I wrote instead of seeing the light comming off screen to see what was posted. Not to mention how you navigated to the post? That is stupid, and if you claim that to be true then how will I respond to what you may post. Wouldn't you be cosidered a witch if you pocessed that power? Are you a witch? Maybe we should all question you.

Just playing you game that's all. How does it feel?

It feels great to have a friend in Christ Jesus! Thanks for asking!

Are you saying that the universe created itself? A meaningless, thoughtless void just spoke itself into existence without any help?

How does it feel to have a completely meaningless life, empty of gratitude, and a worldview in which human beings are just clusters of atoms? I imagine it kind of sucks, huh?

[Sophie Hennig]

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There is no proof that god is real. Do you think it would be even a discussion if there was solid proof. Can you deny that you see the light coming off of your computer screen right now.

You say there is no proof of God? Just take a look around you, friend! Do you really think this all would be possible without the holy spirit? God lives, he is all around us. You only need to open your eyes.

YIC

[Average Fool]

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First off I'm not an antheist. Get your facts straight.

Are you saying you sensed this post and imagined what I wrote instead of seeing the light comming off screen to see what was posted. Not to mention how you navigated to the post? That is stupid, and if you claim that to be true then how will I respond to what you may post. Wouldn't you be cosidered a witch if you pocessed that power? Are you a witch? Maybe we should all question you.

Just playing you game that's all. How does it feel?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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There is no proof that god is real. Do you think it would be even a discussion if there was solid proof. Can you deny that you see the light coming off of your computer screen right now.

Of course it can be denied. If you can deny the creator of all things, you can deny anything.

There is far more evidence of God than there is evidence for the light coming off my computer. God created light. So light is evidence of God. He also created everything else. So the evidence is everywhere you look.

You atheists will say anything to keep on sinning.

I hope you like it hot, friend.

[Average Fool]

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There is no proof that god is real. Do you think it would be even a discussion if there was solid proof. Can you deny that you see the light coming off of your computer screen right now.