[MitzaLizalor]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

What system of formal logic is that? I know all about propositional and predicate logic, first-order languages and the like but it's nothing I recognise from my degree (computer science for Godless cretins).

Honestly, I wasted my money studying that heresy. All I did at university was do drugs and anger God.

I think he was just playing with his font.

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Evidence. Not. Supported. By. Assertion.

is there a prize?

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Here's a great example from our resident "scientist"

Absence of evidence is evidence of absence. Therefore, there is no evidence to prove
An outstanding start there, precisely the opposite of what any secularist claims particularly secularist physicists (and especially astrophysicists), chemists and biologists. And secularist mediums, warlocks & necromancers for that matter just in case any persistent dolt was going to introduce such a theme in a "debunking" display.

OK, so moving on to another post we get:
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..which surpasses even the opening gambit [above] in that the "logic" dumped on us employs the very method whereby such "rationalists" as I suppose Mr Lunkhead considers himself to be demonstrate his tenet to be false.

How very sad that despite his considerable entertainment value Mr Lunkhead is on the well buttered tube leading directly to <b>HELL.

FOREVER

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What system of formal logic is that? I know all about propositional and predicate logic, first-order languages and the like but it's nothing I recognise from my degree (computer science for Godless cretins).

Honestly, I wasted my money studying that heresy. All I did at university was do drugs and anger God.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Evidence. Not. Supported. By. Assertion.

is there a prize?

__________________________________________________

Here's a great example from our resident "scientist"

Absence of evidence is evidence of absence. Therefore, there is no evidence to prove
An outstanding start there, precisely the opposite of what any secularist claims particularly secularist physicists (and especially astrophysicists), chemists and biologists. And secularist mediums, warlocks & necromancers for that matter just in case any persistent dolt was going to introduce such a theme in a "debunking" display.

OK, so moving on to another post we get:

..which surpasses even the opening gambit [above] in that the "logic" dumped on us employs the very method whereby such "rationalists" as I suppose Mr Lunkhead considers himself to be demonstrate his tenet to be false.

How very sad that despite his considerable entertainment value Mr Lunkhead is on the well buttered tube leading directly to HELL.

FOREVER

.

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Make a sentence out of the following words.

Assertion. Not. Supported. Evidence. By.

I think you'll be pleasently suprised.

YIC

Assertion supported by evidence -- not!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Having proof is possible, but it is the easy and not recommended way (John 20:29).

These ideas of syllogism are dismissed as myth even by atheists.

Here we see a parade of autistic demoniacs denouncing logic with a softening up exercise for their denouement in trashing everything of value from the reclaiming of Christendom for Jesus to the witness of martyrs such as John Baptist, the platter, Salomé, his head, and the God who loved him (but not her).

"Philosophy could never deliver quantum physics" they spout in glee and it didn't but neither is Mammon Beelzebub which they certainly would never deny. These atheists. And the fact of their attempting to create unity where there is none is a demonstration of the falsehood of "science" Jesus teaches us:

MARK 3
22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.
23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
27 No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.
KJV

[Basilissa]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Hello, I would like to say something about proof of God's existence. At several points in the discussion, people have referred to faith. Aren't faith and proof antithetical? If one has proof, one does not require faith. Yet the Bible certainly says we must have faith. Doesn't that mean that we can't have proof? Also, I have always thought that the New Testament makes the point that we should not try to find proof. I will try to find verses. Am I mistaken?

Having proof is possible, but it is the easy and not recommended way (John 20:29).

By the way, I'm having a hard time trying to locate your introductory post.

[Estreya]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Hello, I would like to say something about proof of God's existence. At several points in the discussion, people have referred to faith. Aren't faith and proof antithetical? If one has proof, one does not require faith. Yet the Bible certainly says we must have faith. Doesn't that mean that we can't have proof? Also, I have always thought that the New Testament makes the point that we should not try to find proof. I will try to find verses. Am I mistaken?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Science does win.

No, Jesus wins. Always.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Science does win.

Make a sentence out of the following words.

Assertion. Not. Supported. Evidence. By.

I think you'll be pleasently suprised.

YIC

[PhDAstrophysic]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

As some one who is called Science Wins it is strange to see this assertion not supported by evidence.

Not much of a scientist, are you?

Proverbs 26:3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

YIC

Science does win.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

you aren't very intelligent if you actually think this is proof i'm sorry to say it but you are no worse than someone using propaganda and lies to make weak minded people listen to them.

As some one who is called Science Wins it is strange to see this assertion not supported by evidence.

Not much of a scientist, are you?

Proverbs 26:3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

YIC

[Joey Roach]

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you aren't very intelligent if you actually think this is proof i'm sorry to say it but you are no worse than someone using propaganda and lies to make weak minded people listen to them.

[Bobby-Joe]

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[QUOTE=Albert The Lunkhead;994583]Your type of evidence is different from the evidence we other people want. [quote]
If you think there is a natural explanation for the creation of the cucumber I am sure we would like to read it Albert.

This is the same situation you Christians act with us scientists.

Completely different. We Christians have a first person observer that told us it happened in logical sequence of events in seven days and talking a snake was involved; God.

God is a perfect observer, I am sure no scientist would make any such claim.

[Albert The Lunkhead (On Moderation)]

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So once again, by your words absence of evidence that God does not exist must mean that God exists.

This is the reason that faith is bad. Faith is the assumption of truth when evidence is absent. This absence of evidence is evidence of absence of truth. So faith in itself is evidence of falseness. Therefore, faith is not a road to truth, but instead a road to falseness.

But we do furnish proof here and here friend...

Your type of evidence is different from the evidence we other people want.

Your refusal to consider our evidence does not automatically mean there is no evidence.

This is the same situation you Christians act with us scientists.

Yup, Jesus warned me about you.

We're not bad. We're Just trying to answer the unsolved questions. Such as, how the universe began, our position in the universe, if we are alone (highly unluckily), how life is made, black hole, supernovas, etc.

My astronomy isn't great I'm afraid, although I'm always amazed at the discoveries you guys make, and the figures involves in your work.

Thank you.

[Eddie James]

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Absence of evidence is evidence of absence. Therefore, there is no evidence to prove, only faith to adopt a position in your part. You may think it's an impossible question. We say Maybe you think you don't care what I can prove; you believe in it, and that's what matters. In actual truth, most people understand why there are a large number of people believing in God. Of course you need to know what God you're believing in first. Life isn't easy, it's difficult, it's scary and lonely. Nobody wants to think were alone or have unanswered questions. Nobody want to think death is the end, and in tough times, it comforts the us humans when we believe something is out there. In most cases, the comfort that faith gives us is worth the risk of being wrong. By like children letting go of their beliefs in fairies, Santa; we all reach a certain maturity level to look at things rationally. We all have to come to grips with the truth - maybe you're not ready to admit it. We can feed and save the hungry instead of praying the supernatural to do it, which they haven't.

I completely concur, I know people who genuinely want to believe in god, but can't, due to the lack of evidence supporting it, I understand the need to worship a deity, I for one don't
I have to say,there is a lot of misguidance here, but after evaluating i see why, I'm not here to disprove gods existence, but just as you would expect to correct biblical faults because of passion for your faith, I have to correct geological faults, as I'm just as passionate about geography. Ignorance will get you no closer to the truth, i understand that you've never really fit in with society, that your social inadequacies have left you lonely, unloved and in need of justification, and so to occupy your low self asteam and hatred of the world you choose a group of equal lowlifes to fit Im. I understand, it's easy to hide away from the facts, and evidence, to not seek logic, or discover new possibilities, its easy to hide in your dictatorial forums far enough away from reality that you won't realise the life you have wasted, living bound like an S&M whore with Faith as your sadistic predator, imprisoned and unable to enjoy some of the greatest pleasures we share with nature, the only way to happily continue a wasted life worshiping what can only be described as an evil, genocidal, misogynistic, homophobic, filacidal, jealous, sadistic, mythical man, now Lucifers only crime was to disobey God, so given the 000000000000000000.1% chance that they exist, I know which one I'd be rooting for, the one that's not evil, which ironically would hypothetically be Lucifer.
Thank God I'm an atheist
My field is hydrography and oceanography, although my sub-field is meteorology
My astronomy isn't great I'm afraid, although I'm always amazed at the discoveries you guys make, and the figures involves in your work.