[MisterM]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

I mean i could write a book and say the lord told me to. See the problem?

Oh yes, please take tens or hundreds of people and 2000 years and write independently different parts of the book containing almost 1000 pages. I'm 100% sure that book would be full of contradictions and stories completely opposite of each other.

Then look at the Bible (KJV 1611). Perfect book, not a single contradiction there. Reason?

2 Timothy 3:16 - All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

It would be impossible for man to write book like that.

YiC, M

[Kraulter]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

why must we listen to all these facts flying around trying to prove if god exists. I believe in him, that's that. I don't need his own words to reaffirm what i already believe in, I just believe. I don't want an explanation as to how or why he exists, he just does, end of story. I personally do not like the idea of someone seeking to prove he exists, because that almost seems like that person's faith was rocked and they needed these facts to keep them anchored to the lord.

[Jack O'fagan]

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why must we listen to all these facts flying around trying to prove if god exists. I believe in him, that's that. I don't need his own words to reaffirm what i already believe in, I just believe. I don't want an explanation as to how or why he exists, he just does, end of story. I personally do not like the idea of someone seeking to prove he exists, because that almost seems like that person's faith was rocked and they needed these facts to keep them anchored to the lord.

I think personal experience is good evidence for the proof of God. When I opened my heart up to Jesus everything just became so clear to me. Personal experience IS 100% reliable evidence and should be accepted as such!

Unless obviously you are a jew,muslim or hindu then your personal experience is a deception from satan or you are a lying bastard,

YIC


Jack

[the_wolfpack]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

I am curious, what would you consider me seeing as I am someone who believes in God and also in evolution. Please keep all insults to a minimum, insulting people seems to be a trend on here.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

I am curious, what would you consider me seeing as I am someone who believes in God and also in evolution. Please keep all insults to a minimum, insulting people seems to be a trend on here.

I would say that if you believe in evolution then you must think that Genesis is incorrect or unreliable. The God of the Bible is introduced to us in Genesis so why should you believe in the God of Abraham if you clearly do not trust the source?

Jesus did believed in the Genesis account as he refers to Genesis. If you do not trust the Genesis account then you must mistrust the judgement of Jesus. If you mistrust His judgement then how can you trust Him that He was divine and not a deluded mortal man?

If you accept evolution you are left with a God from a dubious source and a man with dubious judgement who thought the dubious God was His father. Is that something to base your faith on?

It is like a house of cards. If you take away one element it all falls down. Accept it all 100% or reject it all. There are no other logical positions.

YIC

Jack

[the_wolfpack]

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Well yes I will agree that removing a card from the house of cards may make it fall especially if its one of the cards making up the base of the entire structure. But as was stated in posts a while back the bible speaks nothing of scientific ideas, especially since this area of science in particular was not even known to exist. So evolution is not one of these base ideas that Christianity is based off of, allowing me to believe in it without destroying my belief in God. When it comes to evolution most are scared of it because it speaks of humans having a primordial lineage not entirely human but if humans were never mentioned in this theory it might have been accepted more by the religious community. People accept that plants change through out history and there are accounts of plants evolving and even microbes evolving before our very eyes. So excusing humans from the theory of evolution, I see no reason why everybody cannot accept it.

[Isaac Fisher]

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So excusing humans from the theory of evolution, I see no reason why everybody cannot accept it.

We don't accept it because it isn't true - nothing else.

The theory of evolution makes baseless assumptions and unsupportable claims that makes it not even a theory - just a hypothesis. Nothing in the whole book Darwin wrote came close to making evolution even likely; the amount of evidence such an idea would need is a mountain and all that was (and still is) presented is a tablespoon. Does the phrase, 'extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence' come to mind?

Evolution still needs to be proved.

[Jack O'fagan]

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Well yes I will agree that removing a card from the house of cards may make it fall especially if its one of the cards making up the base of the entire structure. But as was stated in posts a while back the bible speaks nothing of scientific ideas, especially since this area of science in particular was not even known to exist. So evolution is not one of these base ideas that Christianity is based off of, allowing me to believe in it without destroying my belief in God. When it comes to evolution most are scared of it because it speaks of humans having a primordial lineage not entirely human but if humans were never mentioned in this theory it might have been accepted more by the religious community. People accept that plants change through out history and there are accounts of plants evolving and even microbes evolving before our very eyes. So excusing humans from the theory of evolution, I see no reason why everybody cannot accept it.

I would say that Genesis is the base of the whole structure. Our scientific knowledge at the time is irrelevant. We have God's word that is enough. We see primitive tribes making up a false god to fill holes in their knowledge. If you use 'science' in your thinking you are in danger of making it look as though God was invented to fill a hole in the knowledge of the ancient Hebrews. That is obviously a preposterous idea, you are treading a very dangerous path

Your soul is at stake.

YIC

Jack

[the_wolfpack]

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We don't accept it because it isn't true - nothing else.

I'm just curious, not trying to start a huge argument, but what about evolution is not true? The mechanisms needed for evolution to occur are seen around us occurring all the time. Natural selection, genetic mutation, genetic drift, gene flow and the Hill-Robertson effect. These do not necessarily change what we look like, it could change how our bodies function. Which is exactly how your immune system works. It changes based on environment and those changes are passed down to the successive generations changing us on a molecular level. This does not go against God, maybe he gave us the ability, evolution, to help adapt to our ever changing environment

[Bobby-Joe]

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Well yes I will agree that removing a card from the house of cards may make it fall especially if its one of the cards making up the base of the entire structure. But as was stated in posts a while back the bible speaks nothing of scientific ideas, especially since this area of science in particular was not even known to exist. So evolution is not one of these base ideas that Christianity is based off of, allowing me to believe in it without destroying my belief in God. When it comes to evolution most are scared of it because it speaks of humans having a primordial lineage not entirely human but if humans were never mentioned in this theory it might have been accepted more by the religious community. People accept that plants change through out history and there are accounts of plants evolving and even microbes evolving before our very eyes. So excusing humans from the theory of evolution, I see no reason why everybody cannot accept it.

Friend

Here is a list of question that Evolutionists REFUSE to answer.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=3498

Evolution is a theory in crises and it is widely questioned by Christian scientists and researchers.

As you said, if the foundation is bad the house must crumble. Well the foundation of Atheism; evolution is bad.

[the_wolfpack]

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Friend

Here is a list of question that Evolutionists REFUSE to answer.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=3498

Evolution is a theory in crises and it is widely questioned by Christian scientists and researchers.

As you said, if the foundation is bad the house must crumble. Well the foundation of Atheism; evolution is bad.

Questions such as why did dodo birds go extinct so fast: They were killed off by settlers when they arrived to land they inhabited. Trees do not compete to grow above a certain height because many have changed to take advantage of the little amount of light available to them, and at that height nutrients would probably never make it to the top because of the amount of energy it would take to pump them that high. A lot of those questions are asked without much knowledge of science as can be seen by how they are worded and the very nature of the question. I read them all but will not go through and answer them all. You can take that as a lack of knowledge or me just not wanting to type so much.

[TommyBGoode]

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Faith is nothing with proof: you cannot prove God's existence because this would destroy the notion of faith. I'm sure you've read the story of abraham's test of faith when asked to kill his son. This story is all about faith not proof.
What do you think?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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What do you think?

I think what God tells me to think. I couldn't care less what some unsaved europistani queer has to say.

[TommyBGoode]

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I think what God tells me to think. I couldn't care less what some unsaved europistani queer has to say.

i'm no queer. I just asked you a question about faith, i'm here to learn.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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Faith is nothing with proof: you cannot prove God's existence because this would destroy the notion of faith. I'm sure you've read the story of abraham's test of faith when asked to kill his son. This story is all about faith not proof.
What do you think?

I thought it was a test of Abraham's works. Abraham's faith would have been dead had he not walked to the mountain and strapped his son to the altar.

James 2:21-22 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?