[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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you cant prove God exists.

Of course I can. He said He created us and here we are.

you cant. and no matter how many bible verses you give me, you still cant convince me that he exists.

You can't convince me that chinks exist. they are just Japs with odd Epicanthic folds.

and its true that we cant prove he doesnt exist, but the evolution theory is WAY more accurate than "some guy came along and created the entire universe. the end"

Miss Chu, let me explain something to you pseudo-scientific types. You probably believe the universe was created in a 'Big Bang' from a singularity. If you do, you must realize that the energies and temperatures required for that nonsense to have happened would have been very energetic and millions of degrees, rendering the entire universe sterile. Sterile means no life, no complex molecules, no amino acids. Sterile. GOD is the only way life could have been introduced into a sterile universe. It is a scientific certainty.

[shaunasaurus]

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Miss Chu, let me explain something to you pseudo-scientific types. You probably believe the universe was created in a 'Big Bang' from a singularity. If you do, you must realize that the energies and temperatures required for that nonsense to have happened would have been very energetic and millions of degrees, rendering the entire universe sterile. Sterile means no life, no complex molecules, no amino acids. Sterile. GOD is the only way life could have been introduced into a sterile universe. It is a scientific certainty.

Then who created God.

Of course, i beleive in him, but i also beleive in the evolution theory (which a theory is an idea with proof). And isn't the "Big Bang Theory" a THEORY? But a lot of people agree and disagree with that, so i'm leaving you to your own beliefs on that one.
But really, neither of us could actually possibly KNOW how life began, who started it, and who created the being that started it.

An answer of "He just was there" or "He just IS" or anything like it isn't a logical answer either.

Nobody will really ever know.

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

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Ok, I'll bite....

Then who created God.

No one, God always has been and always will be.

Of course, i beleive in him, but i also beleive in the evolution theory (which a theory is an idea with proof).

Pick one or the other! The Bible says that the earth is 6,000 years old. Evolutionary "theory" states that it is a billion gajillion years old.

And isn't the "Big Bang Theory" a THEORY? But a lot of people agree and disagree with that, so i'm leaving you to your own beliefs on that one.
But really, neither of us could actually possibly KNOW how life began, who started it, and who created the being that started it.

We can believe the One who was there, can we not? And, as I already proved, He always has been and always will be (hence He is called the Alpha and the Omega)

[shaunasaurus]

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Ok, I'll bite....


No one, God always has been and always will be.

But i want real proof that He is real. Even if i believe He is there, i still want proof. Because that was my question. I want hardcore proof.

Pick one or the other! The Bible says that the earth is 6,000 years old. Evolutionary "theory" states that it is a billion gajillion years old.

I don't have to pick one or the other, it's my personal opinion to believe in both. I don't neccesarily believe in the Bible anyways, but i believe in God, that's for sure.

We can believe the One who was there, can we not? And, as I already proved, He always has been and always will be (hence He is called the Alpha and the Omega)

You didn't prove to me anything, but we can still believe. Religion was created only to explain the unexplainable, like the beginning of life, anyways.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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But i want real proof that He is real. Even if i believe He is there, i still want proof. Because that was my question. I want hardcore proof.



I don't have to pick one or the other, it's my personal opinion to believe in both. I don't neccesarily believe in the Bible anyways, but i believe in God, that's for sure.



You didn't prove to me anything, but we can still believe. Religion was created only to explain the unexplainable, like the beginning of life, anyways.

So you're saying that you believe in God, but only those things that make you feel good. Not the literal truth of the Bible, just whatever you think God is, then He is. Are your feet warm yet?

[Bub.]

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Please prove that. The Bible clearly states that it was written by God. Go ahead and disprove that. We'll wait.

My friend, please calm down.

2 Timothy 3:16 (King James Version)


All scripture is given
by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

If you have any more question about theology, the bible, or your relational problems, just call me, my friend, and I'll be pleased to answer to you


Your guttural friend,

Bub

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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There is no logical reason why the Bible is not the perfect Word of God. After all, even fallible humans can get things right some of the time, especially if they are supervised by Someone who is infallible.

Christians do not claim that the humans who penned the books of the Bible were always accurate in everything they said or did. We simply believe that the Bible is right when it claims that God guided these men in their task of writing Scripture, in such a way that the result is an infallible book. The apostle Peter undoubtedly said some foolish things during his lifetime, but God did not allow him to clutter up the Bible with any of those blunders.

And yes,2 Timothy 3:16 contains the classic claim that the Bible was produced by God, not just men:

All Scripture is inspired by God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

One standard explanation of the concept of "inspiration" is given by Ryrie:

God's superintendence of the human authors so that, using their own individual personalities, they composed and recorded without error His revelation to man in the words of the original autographs. (Charles Ryrie, A Survey of Bible Doctrine (Chicago: Moody Press, 1972), p. 38)

We do not know exactly how God accomplished His purpose of providing a totally accurate Bible. But 2 Peter 1:21 gives some insight:

No prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

The word "moved" in this verse is also used in Acts 27:15 to describe the way a great storm blew the apostle Paul's ship off course across the Mediterranean. The people on board could spend the time as they chose (either bailing or wailing!), but the storm determined their destination of Malta. Similarly, God guided the writers of Scripture to produce exactly the message He wanted.

And the Bible clearly tells us that those who doubt it it the Holy Word of God are doomed to hellfire.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all

You mary worshiping catlicks are guilty of violating nearly every commandment of God. Jesus has reserved a special place in hell for you.

And yes, you can be of further service to me. Stop praying to Jesus' mommy and accept Christ as your Saviour©. Renounce satan and the nazi antichrist you serve in Rome, and join the largest Baptist Church in the world: Landover Baptist Church. Can you do that, jeanie?

[Bub.]

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And yes, you can be of further service to me. Stop praying to Jesus' mommy and accept Christ as your Saviour©. Renounce satan and the nazi antichrist you serve in Rome, and join the largest Baptist Church in the world: Landover Baptist Church. Can you do that, jeanie?

I have to admit that the former Pope was a Polack, and the actual one served in the Hitler Youth

Thx for your answer, I can't give any argument against it!

Ciao Zekie

[SalvationSeeker]

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I have to admit that the former Pope was a Polack, and the actual one served in the Hitler Youth

Thx for your answer, I can't give any argument against it!

Ciao Zekie

So you admit that the pope isn't infallible?

[Bub.]

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I never said he was infaillible.

It's just the leader of the Catholic church, like Bush is the leader of the USA.

[Bobby-Joe]

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I never said he was infaillible.

It's just the leader of the Catholic church, like Bush is the leader of the USA.

The Pope is not like our Godly President; the Pope was elected by men, the Collage of Cardinals, Bush was annoited by God. Remember Bush lost the vote in his first electon yet still became President. Clearly the work of God.

[SalvationSeeker]

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I never said he was infaillible.

It's just the leader of the Catholic church, like Bush is the leader of the USA.

Then you are in direct conflict with the catholic cathetis.
Yet you are a little more in line with what God feels. Praise Jesus! (GWB was still annointed by God though.)
You may not want to mention your opinon to your priest however, he will assign you "hail marys" for it...
A few hundred yours ago, you'd been killed for saying that.

And tell me, by just what authority do you feel he rules the "church"?

[shaunasaurus]

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So you're saying that you believe in God, but only those things that make you feel good. Not the literal truth of the Bible, just whatever you think God is, then He is. Are your feet warm yet?

It's just the Bible is out of date nowadays, it doesn't need to be taken literally. It's only guidelines for people to live by, not a whole life-plan.

But yes, if you want to put it that way, i beleive in whatever I think God is.
I think God is a higher, spiritual, being that watches over his creations with love and care, and forgives and loves everyone (including you).
I do not beleive any one human and equal up to Him or be at his right hand though, because come on, everyone sins. Every day. But we're still forgiven because we are loved.

[SalvationSeeker]

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It's just the Bible is out of date nowadays, it doesn't need to be taken literally. It's only guidelines for people to live by, not a whole life-plan.

Where did you get such an idea?
Are you saying God change because man change?
He doesn't! just because society changes, doesn't mean God will.
Why should He? God is perfect, and doesn't change:

For I am the LORD, I change not;
Therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Malachi 3:6

But yes, if you want to put it that way, i beleive in whatever I think God is.

Then you may as well believe in santa claus or the easter bunny.
Your belief is void of any true faith, a fantasy you entertain yourself with to make your sinful life more liveable.

God is God, He doesn't change to suit your views!

And she hath changed my judgments into wickedness more than the nations, and my statutes more than the countries that are round about her:
For they have refused my judgments and my statutes, they have not walked in them.
Ezekiel 5:6

I think God is a higher, spiritual, being that watches over his creations with love and care, and forgives and loves everyone (including you).

YOU think?
This isn't about belief, it's about TRUTH!
Face it, the Word of God is the basis of ALL Christianity, without it, you are not a Christian.

You only trust in your own heart, not in God:
He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool:
But whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
Proverbs 28:26

I do not beleive any one human and equal up to Him or be at his right hand though, because come on, everyone sins. Every day. But we're still forgiven because we are loved.

God only forgive if you repent.
You obviously refuse to acknowledge most of your sins and change your ways:
As such, you will never be forgiven.

[OnYourKnees]

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It's just the Bible is out of date nowadays, it doesn't need to be taken literally. It's only guidelines for people to live by, not a whole life-plan.

But yes, if you want to put it that way, i beleive in whatever I think God is.

I think God is a higher, spiritual, being that watches over his creations with love and care, and forgives and loves everyone (including you).

But we're still forgiven because we are loved.

Where do you get these bizarre ideas?

You say you believe in God, but YOU want to decide for God what He is? You dare to make yourself God?!

The Bible, God's Word, isn't to be taken literally?

What source do you HAVE for your beliefs in what God is or is not? Your own imaginings?

This is what happens when people imagine their own gods, instead of following the Bible! Do YOU wish to be "touched by His (obscene) noodly appendage" as well?!

You claim to be a follower of God, but only want to follow the God you make up. Should you not at least have the decency to claim to follow a made-up deity, instead of the One True God? Your words are blasphemy!